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  • @tacosman said:

    mayfield doesn't have the type of arm talent you look for as a high first round draft pick

    Are you kidding me? He was tossing on target 50 yard bombs against TCU. You'll have another chance to see for yourself New Year's Day in the Rose Bowl. 

    @hoorta said:

    Are you kidding me? He was tossing on target 50 yard bombs against TCU. You'll have another chance to see for yourself New Year's Day in the Rose Bowl. 

    a lot of college guys with a clean pocket and room to step up can throw a ball 50 yards on a go.....that doesnt neccessarily make an nfl arm

  • Kessler threw 50 yard bombs on the regular at usc.... 

  • Baker Mayfield is a good player.

    @poeticg said:

    Baker Mayfield is a good player.

    Kiss of death.  Avoid at all costs now.  

  • You guys are stupid. The Browns will win out now that Sackashitsi is gone.

  • Baker will win the Heisman and national championship and it still won’t change anyone’s view on the board. They’ll still hate him then. I see the “it” factor will him. He’s something special. Haters gonna hate though.

  • @poeticg said:

    Baker Mayfield is a good player.

    Kiss of death.  Avoid at all costs now.  

    @tiamat63 said:

    Kiss of death.  Avoid at all costs now.  

    LOL!!!!

  • Baker will win the Heisman and national championship and it still won’t change anyone’s view on the board. They’ll still hate him then. I see the “it” factor will him. He’s something special. Haters gonna hate though.

    @stillmotion said:

    Baker will win the Heisman and national championship and it still won’t change anyone’s view on the board. They’ll still hate him then. I see the “it” factor will him. He’s something special. Haters gonna hate though.

    Because winning the Heisman (check out that list of QBs for a good laugh) and a National Championship does not an NFL QB make. 

  • It would be pretty hilarious if we traded down now, ANALYTICS SAYS TRADE DOWN bed wetters would be left scratching their heads 

  • It would be pretty hilarious if we traded down now, ANALYTICS SAYS TRADE DOWN bed wetters would be left scratching their heads 

    @londonbrown said:

    It would be pretty hilarious if we traded down now, ANALYTICS SAYS TRADE DOWN bed wetters would be left scratching their heads 

    sashi was going to take a qb #1 and so will we now.

    For all the analytics talk, sashi sure did a lot of non-analytics things

  • It would be pretty hilarious if we traded down now, ANALYTICS SAYS TRADE DOWN bed wetters would be left scratching their heads 

    @londonbrown said:

    It would be pretty hilarious if we traded down now, ANALYTICS SAYS TRADE DOWN bed wetters would be left scratching their heads 

    sashi was going to take a qb #1 and so will we now.

    For all the analytics talk, sashi sure did a lot of non-analytics things

  • It would be pretty hilarious if we traded down now, ANALYTICS SAYS TRADE DOWN bed wetters would be left scratching their heads 

    @londonbrown said:

    It would be pretty hilarious if we traded down now, ANALYTICS SAYS TRADE DOWN bed wetters would be left scratching their heads 

    So salty.

    Also, Dorsey would likely come away with something for it.

  • @stillmotion said:

    Baker will win the Heisman and national championship and it still won’t change anyone’s view on the board. They’ll still hate him then. I see the “it” factor will him. He’s something special. Haters gonna hate though.

    Because winning the Heisman (check out that list of QBs for a good laugh) and a National Championship does not an NFL QB make. 

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Because winning the Heisman (check out that list of QBs for a good laugh) and a National Championship does not an NFL QB make. 

    A bunch of random football fans on some site can't do evaluation as well as some of the best talent evaluators in pro sports. A few guys are religious about PFF, and when they graded Baker #1 by Far the top QB coming into the draft this year, they just disagreed with it without any info to back it up besides a "gut feeling out of left field".

  • @logicisforsquares said:

    Because winning the Heisman (check out that list of QBs for a good laugh) and a National Championship does not an NFL QB make. 

    A bunch of random football fans on some site can't do evaluation as well as some of the best talent evaluators in pro sports. A few guys are religious about PFF, and when they graded Baker #1 by Far the top QB coming into the draft this year, they just disagreed with it without any info to back it up besides a "gut feeling out of left field".

    @stillmotion said:

    A bunch of random football fans on some site can't do evaluation as well as some of the best talent evaluators in pro sports. A few guys are religious about PFF, and when they graded Baker #1 by Far the top QB coming into the draft this year, they just disagreed with it without any info to back it up besides a "gut feeling out of left field".

    I regularly mock PFF on here so that may have solidified my opinion against Mayfield. 

  • Pretty sure they always talk up how great Browns olines are as the QBs are on the IR.

  • @stillmotion said:

    A bunch of random football fans on some site can't do evaluation as well as some of the best talent evaluators in pro sports. A few guys are religious about PFF, and when they graded Baker #1 by Far the top QB coming into the draft this year, they just disagreed with it without any info to back it up besides a "gut feeling out of left field".

    I regularly mock PFF on here so that may have solidified my opinion against Mayfield. 

    @logicisforsquares said:

    I regularly mock PFF on here so that may have solidified my opinion against Mayfield. 

    Let me guess, you like Rosen too?

  • @stillmotion said:

    Baker will win the Heisman and national championship and it still won’t change anyone’s view on the board. They’ll still hate him then. I see the “it” factor will him. He’s something special. Haters gonna hate though.

    Because winning the Heisman (check out that list of QBs for a good laugh) and a National Championship does not an NFL QB make. 

    @logicisforsquares said:

    Because winning the Heisman (check out that list of QBs for a good laugh) and a National Championship does not an NFL QB make. 

    Here are the QBs that won the Heisman in the last 30 years or so.   

    Lamar Jackson

    Marcus Mariota

    Jameis Winston

    Johnny Manziel

    Robert Griffin

    Cam Newton

    Sam Bradford

    Tim Tebow

    Troy Smith

    Matt Leinert

    Jason White

    Carson Palmer

    Eric Crouch

    Chris Weinke

    Danny Wuerffel

    Charlie Ward

    Gino Torretta

    Ty Detmer

    Andre Ware

    Vinny Testaverde.

    So...who out of these has been any good as a pro QB?

  • @logicisforsquares said:

    I regularly mock PFF on here so that may have solidified my opinion against Mayfield. 

    Let me guess, you like Rosen too?

    @stillmotion said:

    Let me guess, you like Rosen too?

    Like his skills but his garbage personality could be the hold up.

  • @logicisforsquares said:

    Because winning the Heisman (check out that list of QBs for a good laugh) and a National Championship does not an NFL QB make. 

    A bunch of random football fans on some site can't do evaluation as well as some of the best talent evaluators in pro sports. A few guys are religious about PFF, and when they graded Baker #1 by Far the top QB coming into the draft this year, they just disagreed with it without any info to back it up besides a "gut feeling out of left field".

    @stillmotion said:

    A bunch of random football fans on some site can't do evaluation as well as some of the best talent evaluators in pro sports. A few guys are religious about PFF, and when they graded Baker #1 by Far the top QB coming into the draft this year, they just disagreed with it without any info to back it up besides a "gut feeling out of left field".

    Actually that would be you.  I've asked for your assessment beyond "HEISMAN, STATS, WINNER, LEADER"... still has yet to happen.

    Also PFF grades aren't indicative of translatable NFL skill.   Those geeks are cool but some things can't be quantified by numbers. 

  • Also:   Here is the list of Heisman Trophy Winning Quarterbacks who have made the Pro Football Hall of Fame:

    Roger Staubach

    and....

    .....that's IT!!

    (Paul Hornung played some QB in college, but made the HOF primarily as a all purpose back)

    But, you never know....maybe Mayfield will become the next Roger Staubach.

  • Make no mistake, he's no Kevin Hogan. Crazy Kev is the mafaqin man. You'll see. 🙂

    @poeticg said:

    Make no mistake, he's no Kevin Hogan. Crazy Kev is the mafaqin man. You'll see. 🙂

    "Mafaqin" ?  Is that an anagram? An acronym?  Somewhere in there those letters must stand for  "Fuyuck.  My. Queer. Arse.