Why not Minkah at #1
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OK. Among those, I'd only take the following non-first rounders: Wilson, Carr, Garoppolo, Brees, Brady. 5 out of 32 is not a very nice statistic.
Among first rounders: Stafford, Mariota, Ryan, Newton, Winston (meh), Flacco, BR, Eli, Wentz, Luck. 11 out of 32.
So it could be said that you double your chances by drafting a QB on first round. Not because drafting a random guy on 1st makes him automatically good, but because everyone drafts BPA thay fits their needs, just before someone else tries to draft him. So if you draft someone on 1st it is because a bigger number of teams think he's good, therefore there's less risk to fail.
Huh?
Huh?
You were talking about waiting to 2nd round to draft a QB, but the odds are against that move.
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OK. Among those, I'd only take the following non-first rounders: Wilson, Carr, Garoppolo, Brees, Brady. 5 out of 32 is not a very nice statistic.
Among first rounders: Stafford, Mariota, Ryan, Newton, Winston (meh), Flacco, BR, Eli, Wentz, Luck. 11 out of 32.
So it could be said that you double your chances by drafting a QB on first round. Not because drafting a random guy on 1st makes him automatically good, but because everyone drafts BPA thay fits their needs, just before someone else tries to draft him. So if you draft someone on 1st it is because a bigger number of teams think he's good, therefore there's less risk to fail.
Huh?
Huh?
i think maybe he meant you have better odd's when drafting a QB within the first 4 picks to have a good one
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Elvis trumps Bowie.....go for the QB at #4.

the Bowie Elvis debate to continue
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Huh?
You were talking about waiting to 2nd round to draft a QB, but the odds are against that move.
You were talking about waiting to 2nd round to draft a QB, but the odds are against that move.
I was not talking about that. I did say that it may be possible that we could get one in round 2 that could be every bit as good as the guys that might go in round one.....given the melange of talent at the position...but I was not talking about doing that.
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Elvis trumps Bowie.....go for the QB at #4.

the Bowie Elvis debate to continue
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You were talking about waiting to 2nd round to draft a QB, but the odds are against that move.
I was not talking about that. I did say that it may be possible that we could get one in round 2 that could be every bit as good as the guys that might go in round one.....given the melange of talent at the position...but I was not talking about doing that.
I was not talking about that. I did say that it may be possible that we could get one in round 2 that could be every bit as good as the guys that might go in round one.....given the melange of talent at the position...but I was not talking about doing that.
Uh huh. My fault then. (Insert here "sorry I'm Spaniard" excuses)
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No need....love them both.
did you watch the Bowie special on hbo Monday night ? it was all right the last ten minutes were great
side note: draft a QB #1
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Minkah isn’t even the top rated safety, much less the top rated prospect.
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Derwin AND Minkah
Go Shmucking crazy
So where would Peppers play?
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I was not talking about that. I did say that it may be possible that we could get one in round 2 that could be every bit as good as the guys that might go in round one.....given the melange of talent at the position...but I was not talking about doing that.
Uh huh. My fault then. (Insert here "sorry I'm Spaniard" excuses)
Uh huh. My fault then. (Insert here "sorry I'm Spaniard" excuses)
What derogatory term do the English have for Spaniards?
Or, there is this joke: How do you find the Spanish? Look on the bottom of the Channel.
An American tourist goes into a restaurant in Spain and orders the specialty of the house. When his dinner arrives, he asks the waiter what it is. "These, senor," replied the waiter in broken English, "are the arms of the bull killed in the ring today." The tourist swallowed hard but tasted the dish and thought it was delicious. So he comes back the next evening and orders the same item. When it is served, he says to the waiter, "These arms... are much smaller than the ones I had last night." "Yes, senor," replied the waiter, "You see...the bull, he does not always lose.
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Minkah isn’t even the top rated safety, much less the top rated prospect.
Minkah isn’t even the top rated safety, much less the top rated prospect.
Most services have him ranked as the top 1-2 overall prospects of the draft. He is primarily listed as FS....but can supposedly also play SS.
Derwin James...a SS is often top ranked as well.
And yes....most services have Minkah ahead of James. Do you think I did not do quite a bit of searching on this?
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Minkah isn’t even the top rated safety, much less the top rated prospect.
Minkah isn’t even the top rated safety, much less the top rated prospect.
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Minkah isn’t even the top rated safety, much less the top rated prospect.
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Uh huh. My fault then. (Insert here "sorry I'm Spaniard" excuses)
What derogatory term do the English have for Spaniards?
Or, there is this joke: How do you find the Spanish? Look on the bottom of the Channel.
An American tourist goes into a restaurant in Spain and orders the specialty of the house. When his dinner arrives, he asks the waiter what it is. "These, senor," replied the waiter in broken English, "are the arms of the bull killed in the ring today." The tourist swallowed hard but tasted the dish and thought it was delicious. So he comes back the next evening and orders the same item. When it is served, he says to the waiter, "These arms... are much smaller than the ones I had last night." "Yes, senor," replied the waiter, "You see...the bull, he does not always lose.
What derogatory term do the English have for Spaniards?
Or, there is this joke: How do you find the Spanish? Look on the bottom of the Channel.
An American tourist goes into a restaurant in Spain and orders the specialty of the house. When his dinner arrives, he asks the waiter what it is. "These, senor," replied the waiter in broken English, "are the arms of the bull killed in the ring today." The tourist swallowed hard but tasted the dish and thought it was delicious. So he comes back the next evening and orders the same item. When it is served, he says to the waiter, "These arms... are much smaller than the ones I had last night." "Yes, senor," replied the waiter, "You see...the bull, he does not always lose.
I knew the restaurant joke. You should ask @londonbrown
about derogatory terms used for Spaniards, he's the English around here.
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Minkah isn’t even the top rated safety, much less the top rated prospect.
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Derwin is still ranked ahead of Minkah on CBS’s Big Board.
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Derwin is still ranked ahead of Minkah on CBS’s Big Board.
Derwin is still ranked ahead of Minkah on CBS’s Big Board.
Isn't CBS the big board that has Mason Rudolph as it's #1 QB?
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Minkah isn’t even the top rated safety, much less the top rated prospect.
Most services have him ranked as the top 1-2 overall prospects of the draft. He is primarily listed as FS....but can supposedly also play SS.
Derwin James...a SS is often top ranked as well.
And yes....most services have Minkah ahead of James. Do you think I did not do quite a bit of searching on this?
Most services have him ranked as the top 1-2 overall prospects of the draft. He is primarily listed as FS....but can supposedly also play SS.
Derwin James...a SS is often top ranked as well.
And yes....most services have Minkah ahead of James. Do you think I did not do quite a bit of searching on this?
Apparently not enough, since the CBS Big Board still has Derwin ahead of Minkah and that’s the first result listed on Google under “2018 NFL Draft Prospect Rankings”.
IIRC wasn’t that also the source you were using last year when proclaiming Trubisky to be one of the best players in the draft?
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Derwin is still ranked ahead of Minkah on CBS’s Big Board.
Isn't CBS the big board that has Mason Rudolph as it's #1 QB?
Isn't CBS the big board that has Mason Rudolph as it's #1 QB?
It is. I believe they take a consensus from their writers and assign a grading scale. At least, they used to.
FWIW, I also think Derwin will be a better NFL safety than Minkah as well.
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Derwin AND Minkah
Go Shmucking crazy
In theory...not a bad idea. Would never happen....but the Browns could definitely use a combo like that.
In theory...not a bad idea. Would never happen....but the Browns could definitely use a combo like that.
Minka/R.Smith...see what QB/RB/wr is left in 2nd, AND if u have to make a move up with some capital..
I would love a bad butt D, then build around the little bit we have on O. Sign a A.Smith, some O line help. and whatever else
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