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    @the-gipper said:

    Elvis trumps Bowie.....go for the QB at #4. 😛

    the Bowie Elvis debate to continue 

    @syd said:

    the Bowie Elvis debate to continue 

    No need....love them both.

  • @nero said:

    You were talking about waiting to 2nd round to draft a QB, but the odds are against that move. 

    I was not talking about that.  I did say that it may be possible that we could get one in round 2 that could be every bit as good as the guys that might go in round one.....given the melange of talent at the position...but I was not talking about doing that.

    @the-gipper said:

    I was not talking about that.  I did say that it may be possible that we could get one in round 2 that could be every bit as good as the guys that might go in round one.....given the melange of talent at the position...but I was not talking about doing that.

    Uh huh. My fault then. (Insert here "sorry I'm Spaniard" excuses)

  • @syd said:

    the Bowie Elvis debate to continue 

    No need....love them both.

    @the-gipper said:

    No need....love them both.

    did you watch the Bowie special on hbo Monday night ? it was all right the last ten minutes were great

    side note: draft a QB #1

  • Minkah isn’t even the top rated safety, much less the top rated prospect.

  • Derwin AND Minkah

    Go Shmucking crazy

    @mld-woody said:

    Derwin AND Minkah

    Go Shmucking crazy

    So where would Peppers play?

  • @the-gipper said:

    I was not talking about that.  I did say that it may be possible that we could get one in round 2 that could be every bit as good as the guys that might go in round one.....given the melange of talent at the position...but I was not talking about doing that.

    Uh huh. My fault then. (Insert here "sorry I'm Spaniard" excuses)

    @nero said:

    Uh huh. My fault then. (Insert here "sorry I'm Spaniard" excuses)

    What derogatory term do the English have for Spaniards?  

    Or, there is this joke:   How do you find the Spanish?    Look on the bottom of the Channel.

    An American tourist goes into a restaurant in Spain and orders the specialty of the house. When his dinner arrives, he asks the waiter what it is. "These, senor," replied the waiter in broken English, "are the arms of the bull killed in the ring today." The tourist swallowed hard but tasted the dish and thought it was delicious. So he comes back the next evening and orders the same item. When it is served, he says to the waiter, "These arms... are much smaller than the ones I had last night." "Yes, senor," replied the waiter, "You see...the bull, he does not always lose. 

     

  • Minkah isn’t even the top rated safety, much less the top rated prospect.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Minkah isn’t even the top rated safety, much less the top rated prospect.

    Most services have him ranked as the top 1-2 overall prospects of the draft. He is primarily listed as FS....but can supposedly also play SS.

    Derwin James...a SS is often top ranked as well. 

    And yes....most services have Minkah ahead of James.   Do you think I did not do quite a bit of searching on this?

  • Minkah isn’t even the top rated safety, much less the top rated prospect.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Minkah isn’t even the top rated safety, much less the top rated prospect.

    Link

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Minkah isn’t even the top rated safety, much less the top rated prospect.

    Link

    @texasag1969 said:

    Linkah

    Fify

    WSS

  • @nero said:

    Uh huh. My fault then. (Insert here "sorry I'm Spaniard" excuses)

    What derogatory term do the English have for Spaniards?  

    Or, there is this joke:   How do you find the Spanish?    Look on the bottom of the Channel.

    An American tourist goes into a restaurant in Spain and orders the specialty of the house. When his dinner arrives, he asks the waiter what it is. "These, senor," replied the waiter in broken English, "are the arms of the bull killed in the ring today." The tourist swallowed hard but tasted the dish and thought it was delicious. So he comes back the next evening and orders the same item. When it is served, he says to the waiter, "These arms... are much smaller than the ones I had last night." "Yes, senor," replied the waiter, "You see...the bull, he does not always lose. 

     

    @the-gipper said:

    What derogatory term do the English have for Spaniards?  

    Or, there is this joke:   How do you find the Spanish?    Look on the bottom of the Channel.

    An American tourist goes into a restaurant in Spain and orders the specialty of the house. When his dinner arrives, he asks the waiter what it is. "These, senor," replied the waiter in broken English, "are the arms of the bull killed in the ring today." The tourist swallowed hard but tasted the dish and thought it was delicious. So he comes back the next evening and orders the same item. When it is served, he says to the waiter, "These arms... are much smaller than the ones I had last night." "Yes, senor," replied the waiter, "You see...the bull, he does not always lose. 

     

    I knew the restaurant joke. You should ask @londonbrown

    about derogatory terms used for Spaniards, he's the English around here.

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Minkah isn’t even the top rated safety, much less the top rated prospect.

    Link

    @texasag1969 said:

    Link

    Derwin is still ranked ahead of Minkah on CBS’s Big Board.

  • @texasag1969 said:

    Link

    Derwin is still ranked ahead of Minkah on CBS’s Big Board.

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Derwin is still ranked ahead of Minkah on CBS’s Big Board.

    Isn't CBS the big board that has Mason Rudolph as it's #1 QB?

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Minkah isn’t even the top rated safety, much less the top rated prospect.

    Most services have him ranked as the top 1-2 overall prospects of the draft. He is primarily listed as FS....but can supposedly also play SS.

    Derwin James...a SS is often top ranked as well. 

    And yes....most services have Minkah ahead of James.   Do you think I did not do quite a bit of searching on this?

    @the-gipper said:

    Most services have him ranked as the top 1-2 overall prospects of the draft. He is primarily listed as FS....but can supposedly also play SS.

    Derwin James...a SS is often top ranked as well. 

    And yes....most services have Minkah ahead of James.   Do you think I did not do quite a bit of searching on this?

    Apparently not enough, since the CBS Big Board still has Derwin ahead of Minkah and that’s the first result listed on Google under “2018 NFL Draft Prospect Rankings”.

    IIRC wasn’t that also the source you were using last year when proclaiming Trubisky to be one of the best players in the draft?

  • @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Derwin is still ranked ahead of Minkah on CBS’s Big Board.

    Isn't CBS the big board that has Mason Rudolph as it's #1 QB?

    @dutch-oven said:

    Isn't CBS the big board that has Mason Rudolph as it's #1 QB?

    It is. I believe they take a consensus from their writers and assign a grading scale. At least, they used to. 

    FWIW, I also think Derwin will be a better NFL safety than Minkah as well. 

  • @mld-woody said:

    Derwin AND Minkah

    Go Shmucking crazy

    In theory...not a bad idea.  Would never happen....but the Browns could definitely use a combo like that.

    @the-gipper said:

    In theory...not a bad idea.  Would never happen....but the Browns could definitely use a combo like that.

    Minka/R.Smith...see what QB/RB/wr is left in 2nd, AND if u have to make a move up with some capital..

    I would love a bad butt D, then build around the little bit we have on O. Sign a A.Smith, some O line help. and whatever else

  • 1)start page 1 with jack & coke.2)ending page 2, just add jack to rocks..3) if or when you get here? congrats $)still take Rosen #1. 5) good starter talent still sits at #4...    

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Isn't CBS the big board that has Mason Rudolph as it's #1 QB?

    It is. I believe they take a consensus from their writers and assign a grading scale. At least, they used to. 

    FWIW, I also think Derwin will be a better NFL safety than Minkah as well. 

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    It is. I believe they take a consensus from their writers and assign a grading scale. At least, they used to. 

    FWIW, I also think Derwin will be a better NFL safety than Minkah as well. 

    There is a factor that Fitz has over just about any other defender in that he served as Saban's defensive QB on the field. Very smart and excellent at calling out the defenses based on formations studied on tape. Now if Fitz is gone by #4 and James is still there, I'd take him in a heartbeat and convert him from SS to FS. Move Peppers to his more natural position.

  • I'd be completely fine with taking Fitz #1 if we get someone like Alex Smith. We'd have a veteran qb, a player who fills a giant need, and still have the #4 to play with. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    Most services have him ranked as the top 1-2 overall prospects of the draft. He is primarily listed as FS....but can supposedly also play SS.

    Derwin James...a SS is often top ranked as well. 

    And yes....most services have Minkah ahead of James.   Do you think I did not do quite a bit of searching on this?

    Apparently not enough, since the CBS Big Board still has Derwin ahead of Minkah and that’s the first result listed on Google under “2018 NFL Draft Prospect Rankings”.

    IIRC wasn’t that also the source you were using last year when proclaiming Trubisky to be one of the best players in the draft?

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    Apparently not enough, since the CBS Big Board still has Derwin ahead of Minkah and that’s the first result listed on Google under “2018 NFL Draft Prospect Rankings”.

    IIRC wasn’t that also the source you were using last year when proclaiming Trubisky to be one of the best players in the draft?

    It is also the one that I used to say that Mason Rudolph is the top rated QB in this draft....and got all kinds of shite for it.  Like I said:  Do you think I didn't do quite a bit of research into this?

    Did you also miss it when I said that MOST  services had Minkah rated in the top 2 overall prospects.  So...instead of being a pluperfect pedantic putz, why don't you give us YOUR opinion on who you would prefer:    Minkah or Derwin James....and why.

  • @dutch-oven said:

    Isn't CBS the big board that has Mason Rudolph as it's #1 QB?

    It is. I believe they take a consensus from their writers and assign a grading scale. At least, they used to. 

    FWIW, I also think Derwin will be a better NFL safety than Minkah as well. 

    @tim-couch-pulls-out said:

    It is. I believe they take a consensus from their writers and assign a grading scale. At least, they used to. 

    FWIW, I also think Derwin will be a better NFL safety than Minkah as well. 

    And why?  Enlighten us.