Alex smith
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None of this. For the love of God, make none of it happen. And I don't think it does happen --- because of money.
Chiefs are over the cap before signing any of their own FA's and think they're going to get picks? No way. Browns have all the cards. If Chiefs want to make a trade, they need to add picks for us to take their salary.
The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown -
You give humanity and civility a bad name.
Can we turn that into a Bon Jovi song ?
Can we turn that into a Bon Jovi song ?
Sounds more like a Cher political song in the making.
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... simply 1) convince him that Cleveland is his best option..
Smith, however, doesn't come with any long-term certainty. He's got one year left on his contract and, if the Browns obtain him via trade, they'll have to secure him to a longer-term deal or the trade will arguably have been a worthless 1-year rental.
Anything but simple...
With Smith, as with any vet, there is always the certainty of the tag on which to fall back. If we have not found and prepared our long-term QB by the 2020 season, then it will become the next-next FO's problem.
That being said, Kansas City kind of has us bent over a barrel, and if push comes to shove, I imagine we'll make the deal for whichever pick is needed to get the job done.
But there is the counter pressure on KC to clear cap space... and only a trade clears the full $20mm.
But there is the counter pressure on KC to clear cap space... and only a trade clears the full $20mm.
And again, this cannot be stated enough. I get he may be worth in terms of value, but I'd bet a cold 6 pack he'll go for a late 2nd. It's well known the Chiefs are in a complete bind on how they can pay Smith the $20 million without making serious roster cuts to pay him. Who knows, maybe that's the route they go.
But don't forget what Houston gave US just to clear up cap space last year. Knowing the boner they have for Mahomes and the fact they are bent over a barrel cap space wise, teams aren't going to bend on draft value. There's no need to give up a valuable pick in the 30s.
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Sounds more like a Cher political song in the making.
You give humanity and civility a bad name.
Can we turn that into a Bon Jovi song ?
Joni Mitchell maybeActually....more Alannis Morrisette. She is always going all emo on us, no? -
I think we wait out KC and KC gives us a 6th to take Smith off their cap.
Browns are the only team they can trade with -- they need that cap relief both for resigning their own and other FA and draft picks..
That means we hold the cards, period -- we could just sign one of the MIN QB's if need be.
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I think we wait out KC and KC gives us a 6th to take Smith off their cap.
Browns are the only team they can trade with -- they need that cap relief both for resigning their own and other FA and draft picks..
That means we hold the cards, period -- we could just sign one of the MIN QB's if need be.
I think we wait out KC and KC gives us a 6th to take Smith off their cap.
Browns are the only team they can trade with -- they need that cap relief both for resigning their own and other FA and draft picks..
That means we hold the cards, period -- we could just sign one of the MIN QB's if need be.
How do you come to the conclusion that the Browns are the only team they can trade with? Several teams may be looking for the services of Smith. A few others may be in the same position that we are in....looking for a "bridge guy". Cardinals for one. I would say that the Broncos could be in for the services of Smith but the Chefs will not trade him in their division. Hell...the Vikings may be looking for a QB of his stature...since all theirs will be FAs. Redskins maybe if Cousins does not go back there. Jets possibly. Maybe even the Bills if they are Tyred of Tyrod.
So...again, explain how we are the only ones. Hell....KC could just decide to keep him as well. Why not?
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None of this. For the love of God, make none of it happen. And I don't think it does happen --- because of money.
Chiefs are over the cap before signing any of their own FA's and think they're going to get picks? No way. Browns have all the cards. If Chiefs want to make a trade, they need to add picks for us to take their salary.
None of this. For the love of God, make none of it happen. And I don't think it does happen --- because of money.
Chiefs are over the cap before signing any of their own FA's and think they're going to get picks? No way. Browns have all the cards. If Chiefs want to make a trade, they need to add picks for us to take their salary.
You're dreaming. It only takes two teams to start a bidding war U. Kansas City has an asset that we (and several other teams) may find desirable. The Browns definitely don't have all the cards. This isn't even remotely comparable to us getting a second round pick to take Osweiler off the Texans' hands- Smith is a proven commodity, Osweiler stunk in Houston.
I think we wait out KC and KC gives us a 6th to take Smith off their cap.
Browns are the only team they can trade with -- they need that cap relief both for resigning their own and other FA and draft picks..
That means we hold the cards, period -- we could just sign one of the MIN QB's if need be.
Second things first. Vikings China Doll Bradford, or bum knee Teddy? Going for factory seconds again? No thanks.
As to no other team being able to bid, Wrongo. We probably have the most draft assets to win a bidding war, but there's a bunch of other QB needy teams that can finagle (or easily manage) to get Smith's salary under the cap. Take a look.
https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/
Cardinals- $10 milion
Jaguars (short of winning the Super Bowl, they may dump Bortles) $17 million
Broncos (shades of getting Manning, their window is closing fast) $29 million
Bills (bye Tyrod, hello Alex, BTW they have two first round picks one of which would trump one of our seconds) $31 million
Redskins (if Cousins walks) $52 million.
Jets $72 million
How do you come to the conclusion that the Browns are the only team they can trade with? Several teams may be looking for the services of Smith. A few others may be in the same position that we are in....looking for a "bridge guy". Cardinals for one. I would say that the Broncos could be in for the services of Smith but the Chefs will not trade him in their division. Hell...the Vikings may be looking for a QB of his stature...since all theirs will be FAs. Redskins maybe if Cousins does not go back there. Jets possibly. Maybe even the Bills if they are Tyred of Tyrod.
So...again, explain how we are the only ones. Hell....KC could just decide to keep him as well. Why not?
See above- only thing I'll disagree on Gip is to keep Smith, they would have to dump several high priced vets to stay under the cap. Even trading a guy like Eric Berry wouldn't get it done... Good point on the Broncos though...
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None of this. For the love of God, make none of it happen. And I don't think it does happen --- because of money.
Chiefs are over the cap before signing any of their own FA's and think they're going to get picks? No way. Browns have all the cards. If Chiefs want to make a trade, they need to add picks for us to take their salary.
You're dreaming. It only takes two teams to start a bidding war U. Kansas City has an asset that we (and several other teams) may find desirable. The Browns definitely don't have all the cards. This isn't even remotely comparable to us getting a second round pick to take Osweiler off the Texans' hands- Smith is a proven commodity, Osweiler stunk in Houston.
I think we wait out KC and KC gives us a 6th to take Smith off their cap.
Browns are the only team they can trade with -- they need that cap relief both for resigning their own and other FA and draft picks..
That means we hold the cards, period -- we could just sign one of the MIN QB's if need be.
Second things first. Vikings China Doll Bradford, or bum knee Teddy? Going for factory seconds again? No thanks.
As to no other team being able to bid, Wrongo. We probably have the most draft assets to win a bidding war, but there's a bunch of other QB needy teams that can finagle (or easily manage) to get Smith's salary under the cap. Take a look.
https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/
Cardinals- $10 milion
Jaguars (short of winning the Super Bowl, they may dump Bortles) $17 million
Broncos (shades of getting Manning, their window is closing fast) $29 million
Bills (bye Tyrod, hello Alex, BTW they have two first round picks one of which would trump one of our seconds) $31 million
Redskins (if Cousins walks) $52 million.
Jets $72 million
How do you come to the conclusion that the Browns are the only team they can trade with? Several teams may be looking for the services of Smith. A few others may be in the same position that we are in....looking for a "bridge guy". Cardinals for one. I would say that the Broncos could be in for the services of Smith but the Chefs will not trade him in their division. Hell...the Vikings may be looking for a QB of his stature...since all theirs will be FAs. Redskins maybe if Cousins does not go back there. Jets possibly. Maybe even the Bills if they are Tyred of Tyrod.
So...again, explain how we are the only ones. Hell....KC could just decide to keep him as well. Why not?
See above- only thing I'll disagree on Gip is to keep Smith, they would have to dump several high priced vets to stay under the cap. Even trading a guy like Eric Berry wouldn't get it done... Good point on the Broncos though...
You're dreaming. It only takes two teams to start a bidding war U. Kansas City has an asset that we (and several other teams) may find desirable. The Browns definitely don't have all the cards. This isn't even remotely comparable to us getting a second round pick to take Osweiler off the Texans' hands- Smith is a proven commodity, Osweiler stunk in Houston.
Second things first. Vikings China Doll Bradford, or bum knee Teddy? Going for factory seconds again? No thanks.
As to no other team being able to bid, Wrongo. We probably have the most draft assets to win a bidding war, but there's a bunch of other QB needy teams that can finagle (or easily manage) to get Smith's salary under the cap. Take a look.
https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/
Cardinals- $10 milion
Jaguars (short of winning the Super Bowl, they may dump Bortles) $17 million
Broncos (shades of getting Manning, their window is closing fast) $29 million
Bills (bye Tyrod, hello Alex, BTW they have two first round picks one of which would trump one of our seconds) $31 million
Redskins (if Cousins walks) $52 million.
Jets $72 million
See above- only thing I'll disagree on Gip is to keep Smith, they would have to dump several high priced vets to stay under the cap. Even trading a guy like Eric Berry wouldn't get it done... Good point on the Broncos though...
OK, so KC will be under the gun: Do they keep Smith...or some of their other "high priced" vets. Who are those guys? And would they be more or less expendable than Smith to the Chiefs?
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You're dreaming. It only takes two teams to start a bidding war U. Kansas City has an asset that we (and several other teams) may find desirable. The Browns definitely don't have all the cards. This isn't even remotely comparable to us getting a second round pick to take Osweiler off the Texans' hands- Smith is a proven commodity, Osweiler stunk in Houston.
Second things first. Vikings China Doll Bradford, or bum knee Teddy? Going for factory seconds again? No thanks.
As to no other team being able to bid, Wrongo. We probably have the most draft assets to win a bidding war, but there's a bunch of other QB needy teams that can finagle (or easily manage) to get Smith's salary under the cap. Take a look.
https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space/
Cardinals- $10 milion
Jaguars (short of winning the Super Bowl, they may dump Bortles) $17 million
Broncos (shades of getting Manning, their window is closing fast) $29 million
Bills (bye Tyrod, hello Alex, BTW they have two first round picks one of which would trump one of our seconds) $31 million
Redskins (if Cousins walks) $52 million.
Jets $72 million
See above- only thing I'll disagree on Gip is to keep Smith, they would have to dump several high priced vets to stay under the cap. Even trading a guy like Eric Berry wouldn't get it done... Good point on the Broncos though...
OK, so KC will be under the gun: Do they keep Smith...or some of their other "high priced" vets. Who are those guys? And would they be more or less expendable than Smith to the Chiefs?
OK, so KC will be under the gun: Do they keep Smith...or some of their other "high priced" vets. Who are those guys? And would they be more or less expendable than Smith to the Chiefs?
As Ag mentioned to you, Google is your friend.... https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/kansas-city-chiefs/
I'll let you put a value meter on their players.
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OK, so KC will be under the gun: Do they keep Smith...or some of their other "high priced" vets. Who are those guys? And would they be more or less expendable than Smith to the Chiefs?
As Ag mentioned to you, Google is your friend.... https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/kansas-city-chiefs/
I'll let you put a value meter on their players.
As Ag mentioned to you, Google is your friend.... https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/kansas-city-chiefs/
I'll let you put a value meter on their players.
They will likely dump Hali for sure...as he is at the end of the line.
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