Bridge QB Over Troubled Waters
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Thus the term "motivated sellers."
Best job in the world now, agent for any good or nearly good NFL quarterback with any experience at all......even better than selling used cars!
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I think it’s obvious we make a deal with the Pats to get Brian Hoyer.
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My choice ALL ALONG...contact the Jets and offer a 5th or 6th rounder for Josh McCown! He is a great option AND your QB coach when he retires!!!
GO BROWNS!!!
Except...per the Walter Football link....he is a free agent...and it would not cost any draft picks. You just sign him.
Is Walter wrong...or did he leave something out?
Except...per the Walter Football link....he is a free agent...and it would not cost any draft picks. You just sign him.
Is Walter wrong...or did he leave something out?
If he is available without giving up a pick,BONUS!!!! sign him asap!
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Best job in the world now, agent for any good or nearly good NFL quarterback with any experience at all......even better than selling used cars!
Why would the agent's job be better than the QBs job. Agents only get 10-15% or so. The QB keeps the rest.
Best job...besides being a left hand relief pitcher, may be backup QB. Hold the clipboard, no risk of injury....get a few million bucks. Not bad work if you can get it.
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I will say this repeatedly but if you take Cousins and surround him with the talent we can secure with cap and picks you have a playoff team IMMEDIATELY. I cannot fathom how anyone cannot see that. Cousins, Gordon, J. Landry, Njoku, S. Barkley and Duke is F'ing magic waiting to happen.
Having looked closer at him.....It would not bother me to have him on this team....
But...with what he wants....even though the Browns have a lot of money to spend....I think it possible that you could get yourself into a Joe Flacco situation....where you have so much money wrapped up in your QB...that you cannot afford to field a decent team around him.
Also...again...given "Cousins situation....where HE controls where he goes....I am still certain that he will want to go to a team far more "ready" to contend than the Browns seem to be.
I will say this repeatedly but if you take Cousins and surround him with the talent we can secure with cap and picks you have a playoff team IMMEDIATELY. I cannot fathom how anyone cannot see that. Cousins, Gordon, J. Landry, Njoku, S. Barkley and Duke is F'ing magic waiting to happen.
Having looked closer at him.....It would not bother me to have him on this team....
But...with what he wants....even though the Browns have a lot of money to spend....I think it possible that you could get yourself into a Joe Flacco situation....where you have so much money wrapped up in your QB...that you cannot afford to field a decent team around him.
Also...again...given "Cousins situation....where HE controls where he goes....I am still certain that he will want to go to a team far more "ready" to contend than the Browns seem to be.
While you are wishing for schidt that will never happen, why not put in a request for a new Breitling Chrono 44 for yourself. Cousins will voluntariyl have his nuts cut off before he would play in Cleveland. Don't be an idiot, dude. Nobody of any veteran skill level is coming to Cleveland.
The Cleveland Browns have the hardest hit players in the NFL -
I will say this repeatedly but if you take Cousins and surround him with the talent we can secure with cap and picks you have a playoff team IMMEDIATELY. I cannot fathom how anyone cannot see that. Cousins, Gordon, J. Landry, Njoku, S. Barkley and Duke is F'ing magic waiting to happen.
Having looked closer at him.....It would not bother me to have him on this team....
But...with what he wants....even though the Browns have a lot of money to spend....I think it possible that you could get yourself into a Joe Flacco situation....where you have so much money wrapped up in your QB...that you cannot afford to field a decent team around him.
Also...again...given "Cousins situation....where HE controls where he goes....I am still certain that he will want to go to a team far more "ready" to contend than the Browns seem to be.
While you are wishing for schidt that will never happen, why not put in a request for a new Breitling Chrono 44 for yourself. Cousins will voluntariyl have his nuts cut off before he would play in Cleveland. Don't be an idiot, dude. Nobody of any veteran skill level is coming to Cleveland.
While you are wishing for schidt that will never happen, why not put in a request for a new Breitling Chrono 44 for yourself. Cousins will voluntariyl have his nuts cut off before he would play in Cleveland. Don't be an idiot, dude. Nobody of any veteran skill level is coming to Cleveland.
Do you bother to read what you respond to Bludcart? I said that he ain't coming here...for the reason that he wants to win now.
Hello! McFly! Is anybody home? Are you asleep...or are you just drunk on that rum shite you drink?
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I will say this repeatedly but if you take Cousins and surround him with the talent we can secure with cap and picks you have a playoff team IMMEDIATELY. I cannot fathom how anyone cannot see that. Cousins, Gordon, J. Landry, Njoku, S. Barkley and Duke is F'ing magic waiting to happen.
Having looked closer at him.....It would not bother me to have him on this team....
But...with what he wants....even though the Browns have a lot of money to spend....I think it possible that you could get yourself into a Joe Flacco situation....where you have so much money wrapped up in your QB...that you cannot afford to field a decent team around him.
Also...again...given "Cousins situation....where HE controls where he goes....I am still certain that he will want to go to a team far more "ready" to contend than the Browns seem to be.
While you are wishing for schidt that will never happen, why not put in a request for a new Breitling Chrono 44 for yourself. Cousins will voluntariyl have his nuts cut off before he would play in Cleveland. Don't be an idiot, dude. Nobody of any veteran skill level is coming to Cleveland.
While you are wishing for schidt that will never happen, why not put in a request for a new Breitling Chrono 44 for yourself. Cousins will voluntariyl have his nuts cut off before he would play in Cleveland. Don't be an idiot, dude. Nobody of any veteran skill level is coming to Cleveland.
There is no reason we can't convince Cousins he can come here and win now. You tell him you have our O line to protect you and Gordon, J Landry, Saquon Barkley, Duke and Njoku as weapons and BAM ?. That's 2 free agents signings and an entire draft to build a defense to support a top 5 O. Easy peezy we just need to get that Sheet done.
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I will say this repeatedly but if you take Cousins and surround him with the talent we can secure with cap and picks you have a playoff team IMMEDIATELY. I cannot fathom how anyone cannot see that. Cousins, Gordon, J. Landry, Njoku, S. Barkley and Duke is F'ing magic waiting to happen.
Having looked closer at him.....It would not bother me to have him on this team....
But...with what he wants....even though the Browns have a lot of money to spend....I think it possible that you could get yourself into a Joe Flacco situation....where you have so much money wrapped up in your QB...that you cannot afford to field a decent team around him.
Also...again...given "Cousins situation....where HE controls where he goes....I am still certain that he will want to go to a team far more "ready" to contend than the Browns seem to be.
While you are wishing for schidt that will never happen, why not put in a request for a new Breitling Chrono 44 for yourself. Cousins will voluntariyl have his nuts cut off before he would play in Cleveland. Don't be an idiot, dude. Nobody of any veteran skill level is coming to Cleveland.
While you are wishing for schidt that will never happen, why not put in a request for a new Breitling Chrono 44 for yourself. Cousins will voluntariyl have his nuts cut off before he would play in Cleveland. Don't be an idiot, dude. Nobody of any veteran skill level is coming to Cleveland.
He doesn't really have the beat of options. My guess is Denver if they have the $$$. Otherwise, he's picking amongst teams that need him to be the "savior"
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While you are wishing for schidt that will never happen, why not put in a request for a new Breitling Chrono 44 for yourself. Cousins will voluntariyl have his nuts cut off before he would play in Cleveland. Don't be an idiot, dude. Nobody of any veteran skill level is coming to Cleveland.
Do you bother to read what you respond to Bludcart? I said that he ain't coming here...for the reason that he wants to win now.
Hello! McFly! Is anybody home? Are you asleep...or are you just drunk on that rum shite you drink?
Do you bother to read what you respond to Bludcart? I said that he ain't coming here...for the reason that he wants to win now.
Hello! McFly! Is anybody home? Are you asleep...or are you just drunk on that rum shite you drink?
He's about as good at rum as he is at football. I'll attest Ag's Diplomatico Riserva is better. $38 retail- if you can find it in Ohio.
There is no reason we can't convince Cousins he can come here and win now. You tell him you have our O line to protect you and Gordon, J Landry, Saquon Barkley, Duke and Njoku as weapons and BAM ?. That's 2 free agents signings and an entire draft to build a defense to support a top 5 O. Easy peezy we just need to get that Sheet done.
LOL, you good at hypnosis? When Smith laughed at 1-31? The only reason Cousins would even give that a second thought is if we offer him $20 million more guaranteed than the next highest bidder- and even that might not be enough Captain Kirk is guiding the Starship, and he's already got enough loot to be set for life.
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Actually, Cousins had a better statistical season in 2016 as opposed to 2017. He WAS in the Top 5 in a number of statistical categories in 2016:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2016/leaders.htm
And in 2015...he was actually a bit worse statistically then than he was in 2017. He only occasionally appeared in the Top Ten of stats. (major exception...he did lead the league in pass completion Pct.....about his only Top 5 appearance:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2015/leaders.htm
Actually, Cousins had a better statistical season in 2016 as opposed to 2017. He WAS in the Top 5 in a number of statistical categories in 2016:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2016/leaders.htm
And in 2015...he was actually a bit worse statistically then than he was in 2017. He only occasionally appeared in the Top Ten of stats. (major exception...he did lead the league in pass completion Pct.....about his only Top 5 appearance:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2015/leaders.htm
Don't overthink the Cousins thing. Washington didn't want to commit to him long term; before they signed Alex Smith to a 94 million $ contract (71 million of it guaranteed). What do the Cousins fans know that that the team that drafted him couldn't possibly understand?
His team's record did NOT improve each of the last 3 years - it got worse each year regardless of the countless excuses I keep reading. If people thought he didn't have anyone to throw to in Washington - have they even SEEN our WR Corps?
The ONLY thing that's going to reward this guy is a disappointing supply of veteran QBs for the demand. Let the Buck Tooth Basssterd in Denver sign him to compete with his Paxton Lynch and Brock Osweiler.
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
Actually, Cousins had a better statistical season in 2016 as opposed to 2017. He WAS in the Top 5 in a number of statistical categories in 2016:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2016/leaders.htm
And in 2015...he was actually a bit worse statistically then than he was in 2017. He only occasionally appeared in the Top Ten of stats. (major exception...he did lead the league in pass completion Pct.....about his only Top 5 appearance:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2015/leaders.htm
Don't overthink the Cousins thing. Washington didn't want to commit to him long term; before they signed Alex Smith to a 94 million $ contract (71 million of it guaranteed). What do the Cousins fans know that that the team that drafted him couldn't possibly understand?
His team's record did NOT improve each of the last 3 years - it got worse each year regardless of the countless excuses I keep reading. If people thought he didn't have anyone to throw to in Washington - have they even SEEN our WR Corps?
The ONLY thing that's going to reward this guy is a disappointing supply of veteran QBs for the demand. Let the Buck Tooth Basssterd in Denver sign him to compete with his Paxton Lynch and Brock Osweiler.
Don't overthink the Cousins thing. Washington didn't want to commit to him long term; before they signed Alex Smith to a 94 million $ contract (71 million of it guaranteed). What do the Cousins fans know that that the team that drafted him couldn't possibly understand?
His team's record did NOT improve each of the last 3 years - it got worse each year regardless of the countless excuses I keep reading. If people thought he didn't have anyone to throw to in Washington - have they even SEEN our WR Corps?
The ONLY thing that's going to reward this guy is a disappointing supply of veteran QBs for the demand. Let the Buck Tooth Basssterd in Denver sign him to compete with his Paxton Lynch and Brock Osweiler.
Not worth the $ or the cap space., even for a team so desperate for a competent QB to bridge a rookie.
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While you are wishing for schidt that will never happen, why not put in a request for a new Breitling Chrono 44 for yourself. Cousins will voluntariyl have his nuts cut off before he would play in Cleveland. Don't be an idiot, dude. Nobody of any veteran skill level is coming to Cleveland.
There is no reason we can't convince Cousins he can come here and win now. You tell him you have our O line to protect you and Gordon, J Landry, Saquon Barkley, Duke and Njoku as weapons and BAM ?. That's 2 free agents signings and an entire draft to build a defense to support a top 5 O. Easy peezy we just need to get that Sheet done.
There is no reason we can't convince Cousins he can come here and win now. You tell him you have our O line to protect you and Gordon, J Landry, Saquon Barkley, Duke and Njoku as weapons and BAM ?. That's 2 free agents signings and an entire draft to build a defense to support a top 5 O. Easy peezy we just need to get that Sheet done.
Why did you leave out Coleman and Higgins?
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Actually, Cousins had a better statistical season in 2016 as opposed to 2017. He WAS in the Top 5 in a number of statistical categories in 2016:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2016/leaders.htm
And in 2015...he was actually a bit worse statistically then than he was in 2017. He only occasionally appeared in the Top Ten of stats. (major exception...he did lead the league in pass completion Pct.....about his only Top 5 appearance:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2015/leaders.htm
Don't overthink the Cousins thing. Washington didn't want to commit to him long term; before they signed Alex Smith to a 94 million $ contract (71 million of it guaranteed). What do the Cousins fans know that that the team that drafted him couldn't possibly understand?
His team's record did NOT improve each of the last 3 years - it got worse each year regardless of the countless excuses I keep reading. If people thought he didn't have anyone to throw to in Washington - have they even SEEN our WR Corps?
The ONLY thing that's going to reward this guy is a disappointing supply of veteran QBs for the demand. Let the Buck Tooth Basssterd in Denver sign him to compete with his Paxton Lynch and Brock Osweiler.
Don't overthink the Cousins thing. Washington didn't want to commit to him long term; before they signed Alex Smith to a 94 million $ contract (71 million of it guaranteed). What do the Cousins fans know that that the team that drafted him couldn't possibly understand?
His team's record did NOT improve each of the last 3 years - it got worse each year regardless of the countless excuses I keep reading. If people thought he didn't have anyone to throw to in Washington - have they even SEEN our WR Corps?
The ONLY thing that's going to reward this guy is a disappointing supply of veteran QBs for the demand. Let the Buck Tooth Basssterd in Denver sign him to compete with his Paxton Lynch and Brock Osweiler.
Yes, I personally am not one that is in the "bring in Cousins" corner. I see the Browns future QB as having to come via the draft.....its just that I don't have a better for feeling for any of the potential draftees than I do for Cousins. Nevertheless...as the thread title says....we are looking for a potential Bridge guy.
And I see those top candidates as being Bradford, McCown, or Fitzpatrick.
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I could not let this thread go any further without putting the title song on here:
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Interestingly....the lyrics to the song have considerable relevance to the subject at hand:
When you're weary, feeling small (Browns fans certainly)
When tears are in your eyes, I'll dry them all (all)
I'm on your side, oh, when times get rough (who is having a rougher time?)
And friends just can't be found (who is befriending the Browns? no one)
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down(we all agree that this "Bridge QB" must sacrifice himself for the greater good of the Browns, fair to say?)When you're down and out
When you're on the street
When evening falls so hard(fits Browns fans to a T)
I will comfort you (ooo)
I'll take your part, oh, when darkness comes(just what we need: comfort...and someone to take our side in these dark times)
And pain is all around
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down -
That whole list sucks donkey balls for the most part. Chase Daniel could be interesting and Dorsey is familiar with him. Maybe he's another Jimmy Grabsapillow. I also think we will look seriously at Bradford and McCarron.
Agreed on Bradford- if he can stay healthy- the Vikes will likely keep Keenum and Teddy. As I posted in another thread interest in McCarron (I hope) would be close to nothing if he loses his hearing on being a UFA, and the Bengals slap a second round tender on him. I'd like to think Dorsey will tell Hue- not worth the #33- I don't care how much you like him. They give him an original round tender- different story.
Ditto Gip's take on Fitzpatrick- he's not very good, but outside of the Po rah-rah pumpers does anyone really expect a lot of wins out of the Browns in 2018? I don't.
Didn't think McCown was a UFA, but if he's got another 2017 year production left in his 39 year old body, I'd welcome him back with open arms- and he'd be relatively cheap (last contract was for $7 million) and a perfect mentor for Darnold- or whoever we draft.
Agreed on Bradford- if he can stay healthy- the Vikes will likely keep Keenum and Teddy. As I posted in another thread interest in McCarron (I hope) would be close to nothing if he loses his hearing on being a UFA, and the Bengals slap a second round tender on him. I'd like to think Dorsey will tell Hue- not worth the #33- I don't care how much you like him. They give him an original round tender- different story.
Ditto Gip's take on Fitzpatrick- he's not very good, but outside of the Po rah-rah pumpers does anyone really expect a lot of wins out of the Browns in 2018? I don't.
Didn't think McCown was a UFA, but if he's got another 2017 year production left in his 39 year old body, I'd welcome him back with open arms- and he'd be relatively cheap (last contract was for $7 million) and a perfect mentor for Darnold- or whoever we draft.
Sorry to tell the "win now" crowd, but I think you have to look at the remaining list for mentors first and players second.
Feels to me like that pushes the McCowns and Daniels up, and the Bradshaws and McCarrons down.
Harder to know what that does to Fitz, but I don't feel him being much of a mentor.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Actually, Cousins had a better statistical season in 2016 as opposed to 2017. He WAS in the Top 5 in a number of statistical categories in 2016:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2016/leaders.htm
And in 2015...he was actually a bit worse statistically then than he was in 2017. He only occasionally appeared in the Top Ten of stats. (major exception...he did lead the league in pass completion Pct.....about his only Top 5 appearance:
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2015/leaders.htm
Don't overthink the Cousins thing. Washington didn't want to commit to him long term; before they signed Alex Smith to a 94 million $ contract (71 million of it guaranteed). What do the Cousins fans know that that the team that drafted him couldn't possibly understand?
His team's record did NOT improve each of the last 3 years - it got worse each year regardless of the countless excuses I keep reading. If people thought he didn't have anyone to throw to in Washington - have they even SEEN our WR Corps?
The ONLY thing that's going to reward this guy is a disappointing supply of veteran QBs for the demand. Let the Buck Tooth Basssterd in Denver sign him to compete with his Paxton Lynch and Brock Osweiler.
Don't overthink the Cousins thing. Washington didn't want to commit to him long term; before they signed Alex Smith to a 94 million $ contract (71 million of it guaranteed). What do the Cousins fans know that that the team that drafted him couldn't possibly understand?
I get your point, but WSH really effed up their relationship with Cousins (and his agent) over two years of fruitless negotiations.
I think that well was poisoned.
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
Agreed on Bradford- if he can stay healthy- the Vikes will likely keep Keenum and Teddy. As I posted in another thread interest in McCarron (I hope) would be close to nothing if he loses his hearing on being a UFA, and the Bengals slap a second round tender on him. I'd like to think Dorsey will tell Hue- not worth the #33- I don't care how much you like him. They give him an original round tender- different story.
Ditto Gip's take on Fitzpatrick- he's not very good, but outside of the Po rah-rah pumpers does anyone really expect a lot of wins out of the Browns in 2018? I don't.
Didn't think McCown was a UFA, but if he's got another 2017 year production left in his 39 year old body, I'd welcome him back with open arms- and he'd be relatively cheap (last contract was for $7 million) and a perfect mentor for Darnold- or whoever we draft.
Sorry to tell the "win now" crowd, but I think you have to look at the remaining list for mentors first and players second.
Feels to me like that pushes the McCowns and Daniels up, and the Bradshaws and McCarrons down.
Harder to know what that does to Fitz, but I don't feel him being much of a mentor.
Sorry to tell the "win now" crowd, but I think you have to look at the remaining list for mentors first and players second.
Feels to me like that pushes the McCowns and Daniels up, and the Bradshaws and McCarrons down.
I assume you mean Bradford?..unless you want Terry in here/
Harder to know what that does to Fitz, but I don't feel him being much of a mentor.
Except he perfectly fits the mold.....Older (35) been around a lot. Started a lot of games. Won some. Supposedly smart (Hahvahd after all). Has little future as a starter. This type of job would seemingly be the only kind of job he would be wanted for. Have you ever heard him express an attitude against helping a younger pup?
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Interestingly....the lyrics to the song have considerable relevance to the subject at hand:
When you're weary, feeling small (Browns fans certainly)
When tears are in your eyes, I'll dry them all (all)
I'm on your side, oh, when times get rough (who is having a rougher time?)
And friends just can't be found (who is befriending the Browns? no one)
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down(we all agree that this "Bridge QB" must sacrifice himself for the greater good of the Browns, fair to say?)When you're down and out
When you're on the street
When evening falls so hard(fits Browns fans to a T)
I will comfort you (ooo)
I'll take your part, oh, when darkness comes(just what we need: comfort...and someone to take our side in these dark times)
And pain is all around
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me down
Like a bridge over troubled water
I will lay me downInterestingly....the lyrics to the song have considerable relevance to the subject at hand:
When you're weary, feeling small (Browns fans certainly)
When tears are in your eyes, I'll dry them all (all)
I'm on your side, oh, when times get rough (who is having a rougher time?)
And friends just can't be found (who is befriending the Browns? no one)Gip, I can't believe you posted that!
.......actually I was thinking about it, how many quarterbacks have the BROWNS gone through since 1999? I've lost track.
GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND! -
Don't overthink the Cousins thing. Washington didn't want to commit to him long term; before they signed Alex Smith to a 94 million $ contract (71 million of it guaranteed). What do the Cousins fans know that that the team that drafted him couldn't possibly understand?
I get your point, but WSH really effed up their relationship with Cousins (and his agent) over two years of fruitless negotiations.
I think that well was poisoned.
I get your point, but WSH really effed up their relationship with Cousins (and his agent) over two years of fruitless negotiations.
I think that well was poisoned.
Fer sure, as our Redskins visitors pointed out their FO publicly bad mouthed Kirk in previous negotiations. Were they being cheap? Had to know Cousins next contract would have to be bigger than what they gave Smith.
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