Shelton traded to the Patriots
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Stillmotion has one testicle. It may not be true but it can't be disproven either
”he has never gone on record saying he isn’t.”
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We already lost a 3rd rd pk for Hemoroid Taylor or what ever his gay butt name is. At this point they will trade Gordon for a 2023 7th rd pk........Fukn stupid. The only half way decent player we got so far was that wr from the Phins., Other than that I don't like what they did or are trying to do.
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Sashi just hissed and ran away like Dracula.
This just might be the funniest thing I've ever read on the entire interweb.
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Don’t like this one either but that’s because I’m Sashi Browns boyfriend.
Don’t like this one either but that’s because I’m Sashi Browns boyfriend.
I said all along they need to get someone badass to play next to Zumba pants. Shelton wasn't it.
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We already lost a 3rd rd pk for Hemoroid Taylor or what ever his gay butt name is. At this point they will trade Gordon for a 2023 7th rd pk........Fukn stupid. The only half way decent player we got so far was that wr from the Phins., Other than that I don't like what they did or are trying to do.
We already lost a 3rd rd pk for Hemoroid Taylor or what ever his gay butt name is. At this point they will trade Gordon for a 2023 7th rd pk........Fukn stupid. The only half way decent player we got so far was that wr from the Phins., Other than that I don't like what they did or are trying to do.
Guess you can't keep everyone happy...
Did you bother to look at Taylor's stats before you start labeling him garbage? Since being the starter for the Bills he's a 92 QBR guy, 51 TDs to 16 INTs. He's a massive improvement over the turnover machine we shipped off to Green Bay. Not only that, I can make a serious case Taylor was throwing to WRs that were even worse than what the Browns had last year. The more I've researched it, the better I like this trade. His $16 million contract is in line with a mid level starter, and won't be a cap buster like Cousins would have been. BTW, Taylor is 6'0" tall- meaning Dorsey won't have any problems drafting a certain 6'0" quarterback from Oklahoma if he checks all the boxes.
Taylor's Stats: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/T/TaylTy00.htm
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All I can say is......
"Well there goes ANOTHER jersey!". Shelton's is his original Browns' #71, which was changed to #55 when Mack left. Danny then signed it for me with his new #55 & he wrote "Throwback" on it.
1) I'm not buying another until they change 'em in 2020 unless I can get a vintage Clay Matthews Jr #57 for a decent price.
2) From now on, no more buying current players jerseys.
Mike
All I can say is......
"Well there goes ANOTHER jersey!". Shelton's is his original Browns' #71, which was changed to #55 when Mack left. Danny then signed it for me with his new #55 & he wrote "Throwback" on it.
1) I'm not buying another until they change 'em in 2020 unless I can get a vintage Clay Matthews Jr #57 for a decent price.
2) From now on, no more buying current players jerseys.
Mike
I learned my lesson about that years ago Mike. I still have a Couch jersey gathering dust somewhere in the basement. My solution is to use #46 (Don Fleming's retired number) and put my name on the back. Never goes out of style. I'm about due for a new one, because my old Reebok one has seen better days.
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All I can say is......
"Well there goes ANOTHER jersey!". Shelton's is his original Browns' #71, which was changed to #55 when Mack left. Danny then signed it for me with his new #55 & he wrote "Throwback" on it.
1) I'm not buying another until they change 'em in 2020 unless I can get a vintage Clay Matthews Jr #57 for a decent price.
2) From now on, no more buying current players jerseys.
Mike
I learned my lesson about that years ago Mike. I still have a Couch jersey gathering dust somewhere in the basement. My solution is to use #46 (Don Fleming's retired number) and put my name on the back. Never goes out of style. I'm about due for a new one, because my old Reebok one has seen better days.
I learned my lesson about that years ago Mike. I still have a Couch jersey gathering dust somewhere in the basement. My solution is to use #46 (Don Fleming's retired number) and put my name on the back. Never goes out of style. I'm about due for a new one, because my old Reebok one has seen better days.
I have a Mathews Jersey (Brown) with My name on it and a Thomas Jersey in white...
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And I'm thinking Chubb @ #1 because he will be gone by #4.
Certainly shines a brighter light on Chubb.
...but if we take QB and NY takes QB, does Indy take Barkley?
Certainly shines a brighter light on Chubb.
...but if we take QB and NY takes QB, does Indy take Barkley?
I'm not so sure NY takes a QB. They might go for the G though. If Chubb sits there @4 I take him over anyone else, but if he is really our first target then don't try to play games and hope he's there. Just take him. The top 3 QBs seem to be coin flips anyway. Now that Taylor is on board, take whomever is left if you see them all about equal.
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Stop crying all you bitches we have a team that went 1-31 , had a parade, and now you want to complain about players trades and picks, this team SUCKS. None of us were in the locker room, so no one knows what players attitudes were other than speculation . Keeping the same players will have the same results. That’s insanity, doing the same thing and expecting different results. Let’s hope for more player turnover and better results
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All I can say is......
"Well there goes ANOTHER jersey!". Shelton's is his original Browns' #71, which was changed to #55 when Mack left. Danny then signed it for me with his new #55 & he wrote "Throwback" on it.
1) I'm not buying another until they change 'em in 2020 unless I can get a vintage Clay Matthews Jr #57 for a decent price.
2) From now on, no more buying current players jerseys.
Mike
I learned my lesson about that years ago Mike. I still have a Couch jersey gathering dust somewhere in the basement. My solution is to use #46 (Don Fleming's retired number) and put my name on the back. Never goes out of style. I'm about due for a new one, because my old Reebok one has seen better days.
I learned my lesson about that years ago Mike. I still have a Couch jersey gathering dust somewhere in the basement. My solution is to use #46 (Don Fleming's retired number) and put my name on the back. Never goes out of style. I'm about due for a new one, because my old Reebok one has seen better days.
Larry, you have GOT to be kidding me!

I have an orange #46 with my name on back (CANTONMIKE) too. Same reasoning...46 is Don Fleming's retired number, year browns founded, & my birth year.
Mike
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Certainly shines a brighter light on Chubb.
...but if we take QB and NY takes QB, does Indy take Barkley?
I'm not so sure NY takes a QB. They might go for the G though. If Chubb sits there @4 I take him over anyone else, but if he is really our first target then don't try to play games and hope he's there. Just take him. The top 3 QBs seem to be coin flips anyway. Now that Taylor is on board, take whomever is left if you see them all about equal.
The top 3 QBs seem to be coin flips anyway.
This I don't agree with. (I agree that NY may not take a QB)
When you're looking at the most important person for the whole football organization, you don't use a coin flip. When professional evaluators sit down and evaluate the 4 QB's they WILL come to a conclusion as to which one best fits the situation of that organization. I just don't see it being an intelligent thing to do, that you pick a player to tackle people and leave the guy who can throw TD passes to chance.
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Canton - I also learned a looong time ago now....NOT to buy current player jerseys. FA has made them move around.....and the shirts are LOUSY car wash rags.

number '00' with VETTEDAWG as my name. (It's a 2000 Corvette...ordered from the factory....currently, 34,000 miles.... - I was VetteDawg on other forums)
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I rock a Ryan Pontribriand jersey.
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I wish someone could explain this
I wish someone could explain this
I may be in the minority here who thinks that this trade was an excellent one, so I'll try to explain my reasoning:
To begin, you first have to look at the position that Danny Shelton plays in relation to the scheme that Greg Williams is attempting to run. Shelton is a classic 3-4 run-stopping nose tackle; however, Greg Williams employs a base 4-3 defensive scheme, of which Shelton is a poor fit. As mentioned by another poster on this thread, Shelton played less than 50% of the defensive snaps last year and I don't think that, if the Browns kept him, his playing time would improve.
Next, let's examine Shelton's contract details. For the past 3 years, Shelton has been making roughly 2 million dollars per season, and would make around another 2 million dollars if he stayed this season. While 2 million dollars does not seem like a great deal of money in the grand scheme of things, I believe that it is a poor use of resources on a player who does not indeed fit the defensive scheme that Greg Williams is attempting to employ, and the money could be used more efficiently elsewhere.
Finally, we need to examine Shelton contract details in relation to his potential free agent status. According to current the NFL collective bargaining agreement, the Browns would have had until May of this year to decide whether or not they wanted to pick up Shelton's 5th year option on his rookie contract. If not, he would have become a free agent after this upcoming season, and would have, with almost 100% certainty, have left the Browns for a different or better team, and the Browns would have ended up losing him anyway. If, however, the Browns had picked up his fifth year option, Shelton's salary next year would have been the average of the top 10 defensive tackles contracts in the NFL this year. This averages out to between roughly 8.1 million to 13.6 million depending on which defensive scheme the NFL ruled that the Browns were running under. Under this metric, the Browns would have paid Shelton four to six times his current salary cap hit for a player who still wouldn't fit the defensive scheme that the Browns were trying to run, and who would have most likely left in free agency after his fifth year anyway, so what would the Browns have gained in this deal?
By trading Shelton away, Dorsey and the Browns received a decent draft pick in exchange for the Patriots removing an ill-fitted player's potentially big salary cap hit; a player who would have probably left as a free agent anyway, leaving the Browns with nothing. Now the Browns can use that pick and the money they saved to go after a player who better fits what they're trying to run.
Hope this helps.
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I wish someone could explain this
I may be in the minority here who thinks that this trade was an excellent one, so I'll try to explain my reasoning:
To begin, you first have to look at the position that Danny Shelton plays in relation to the scheme that Greg Williams is attempting to run. Shelton is a classic 3-4 run-stopping nose tackle; however, Greg Williams employs a base 4-3 defensive scheme, of which Shelton is a poor fit. As mentioned by another poster on this thread, Shelton played less than 50% of the defensive snaps last year and I don't think that, if the Browns kept him, his playing time would improve.
Next, let's examine Shelton's contract details. For the past 3 years, Shelton has been making roughly 2 million dollars per season, and would make around another 2 million dollars if he stayed this season. While 2 million dollars does not seem like a great deal of money in the grand scheme of things, I believe that it is a poor use of resources on a player who does not indeed fit the defensive scheme that Greg Williams is attempting to employ, and the money could be used more efficiently elsewhere.
Finally, we need to examine Shelton contract details in relation to his potential free agent status. According to current the NFL collective bargaining agreement, the Browns would have had until May of this year to decide whether or not they wanted to pick up Shelton's 5th year option on his rookie contract. If not, he would have become a free agent after this upcoming season, and would have, with almost 100% certainty, have left the Browns for a different or better team, and the Browns would have ended up losing him anyway. If, however, the Browns had picked up his fifth year option, Shelton's salary next year would have been the average of the top 10 defensive tackles contracts in the NFL this year. This averages out to between roughly 8.1 million to 13.6 million depending on which defensive scheme the NFL ruled that the Browns were running under. Under this metric, the Browns would have paid Shelton four to six times his current salary cap hit for a player who still wouldn't fit the defensive scheme that the Browns were trying to run, and who would have most likely left in free agency after his fifth year anyway, so what would the Browns have gained in this deal?
By trading Shelton away, Dorsey and the Browns received a decent draft pick in exchange for the Patriots removing an ill-fitted player's potentially big salary cap hit; a player who would have probably left as a free agent anyway, leaving the Browns with nothing. Now the Browns can use that pick and the money they saved to go after a player who better fits what they're trying to run.
Hope this helps.
I may be in the minority here who thinks that this trade was an excellent one, so I'll try to explain my reasoning:
To begin, you first have to look at the position that Danny Shelton plays in relation to the scheme that Greg Williams is attempting to run. Shelton is a classic 3-4 run-stopping nose tackle; however, Greg Williams employs a base 4-3 defensive scheme, of which Shelton is a poor fit. As mentioned by another poster on this thread, Shelton played less than 50% of the defensive snaps last year and I don't think that, if the Browns kept him, his playing time would improve.
Next, let's examine Shelton's contract details. For the past 3 years, Shelton has been making roughly 2 million dollars per season, and would make around another 2 million dollars if he stayed this season. While 2 million dollars does not seem like a great deal of money in the grand scheme of things, I believe that it is a poor use of resources on a player who does not indeed fit the defensive scheme that Greg Williams is attempting to employ, and the money could be used more efficiently elsewhere.
Finally, we need to examine Shelton contract details in relation to his potential free agent status. According to current the NFL collective bargaining agreement, the Browns would have had until May of this year to decide whether or not they wanted to pick up Shelton's 5th year option on his rookie contract. If not, he would have become a free agent after this upcoming season, and would have, with almost 100% certainty, have left the Browns for a different or better team, and the Browns would have ended up losing him anyway. If, however, the Browns had picked up his fifth year option, Shelton's salary next year would have been the average of the top 10 defensive tackles contracts in the NFL this year. This averages out to between roughly 8.1 million to 13.6 million depending on which defensive scheme the NFL ruled that the Browns were running under. Under this metric, the Browns would have paid Shelton four to six times his current salary cap hit for a player who still wouldn't fit the defensive scheme that the Browns were trying to run, and who would have most likely left in free agency after his fifth year anyway, so what would the Browns have gained in this deal?
By trading Shelton away, Dorsey and the Browns received a decent draft pick in exchange for the Patriots removing an ill-fitted player's potentially big salary cap hit; a player who would have probably left as a free agent anyway, leaving the Browns with nothing. Now the Browns can use that pick and the money they saved to go after a player who better fits what they're trying to run.
Hope this helps.
The issue with simplifying things to 3-4 and 4-3 is that you're not taking into consideration alignments, gap responsibility and assignment. Sure with a 4 man front you're likely to play more (or exclusively 1 gap assignments) but you still have an interior player that draws and holds double teams or would be on the receiving end of chip end from another guard/center. There is a reason Aaron Donald gets favorable looks and a lot of 1 on 1 draws based on alignment alone. That isn't his role to be big in the center. If you put Donald at the nose, what makes him great is likely to suffer.
Of course you can have one gap "34" by looking no further than Wade Philips and what Denver did under his watch there. Personnel remained largely the same, although with differences in deployment.
Haloti Ngata was a solid interior presence for Detroit and he's played as a 3-4 nose his entire career save for when subpackages moved him around. Point being is his primary responsibility along the defensive front changed very little when going to the Lions. Likewise when you saw Snacks go from the J-E-T-S to the Gmen. Or somebody like Shaun Rodgers up there then coming to Cleveland... Poe in Atlanta. I could go on with examples here.
Point being, and what I'm trying to sum up, is that this board and many others outside of it are still hung up on the classic '3-4' '4-3' moniker and that simply doesn't exist in the modern NFL. Today's defenses run so many different fronts and subpackages that still make Danny effective in coach Williams "43".
He would still be on the field around the same number of snaps as the previous regime because he'll be subbed out in passing situations or expected passing downs in favor of a pass rushing presence. Shelton is a lane clogger, pure and simple. If anybody remembers the 2014 season you'll know just how badly we needed that hence his drafting. It's not sexy, it's not flashy, but god damn it, i you've played inside backer or safety - you appreciate not seeing a lead just breeze through a hole with a back right behind him.
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^^ both are solid posts. my concerns with Danny have always been his full game conditioning that just seems to disappear somewhere in games.seeing double teams, will do that to ya.After FA period ends I'd be more concerned if they had no plan to address DT in FA or Draft..patience grasshoppers, 8 to $13Mill DT's seems far from Suh money at 19M
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I wish someone could explain this
I may be in the minority here who thinks that this trade was an excellent one, so I'll try to explain my reasoning:
To begin, you first have to look at the position that Danny Shelton plays in relation to the scheme that Greg Williams is attempting to run. Shelton is a classic 3-4 run-stopping nose tackle; however, Greg Williams employs a base 4-3 defensive scheme, of which Shelton is a poor fit. As mentioned by another poster on this thread, Shelton played less than 50% of the defensive snaps last year and I don't think that, if the Browns kept him, his playing time would improve.
Next, let's examine Shelton's contract details. For the past 3 years, Shelton has been making roughly 2 million dollars per season, and would make around another 2 million dollars if he stayed this season. While 2 million dollars does not seem like a great deal of money in the grand scheme of things, I believe that it is a poor use of resources on a player who does not indeed fit the defensive scheme that Greg Williams is attempting to employ, and the money could be used more efficiently elsewhere.
Finally, we need to examine Shelton contract details in relation to his potential free agent status. According to current the NFL collective bargaining agreement, the Browns would have had until May of this year to decide whether or not they wanted to pick up Shelton's 5th year option on his rookie contract. If not, he would have become a free agent after this upcoming season, and would have, with almost 100% certainty, have left the Browns for a different or better team, and the Browns would have ended up losing him anyway. If, however, the Browns had picked up his fifth year option, Shelton's salary next year would have been the average of the top 10 defensive tackles contracts in the NFL this year. This averages out to between roughly 8.1 million to 13.6 million depending on which defensive scheme the NFL ruled that the Browns were running under. Under this metric, the Browns would have paid Shelton four to six times his current salary cap hit for a player who still wouldn't fit the defensive scheme that the Browns were trying to run, and who would have most likely left in free agency after his fifth year anyway, so what would the Browns have gained in this deal?
By trading Shelton away, Dorsey and the Browns received a decent draft pick in exchange for the Patriots removing an ill-fitted player's potentially big salary cap hit; a player who would have probably left as a free agent anyway, leaving the Browns with nothing. Now the Browns can use that pick and the money they saved to go after a player who better fits what they're trying to run.
Hope this helps.
I may be in the minority here who thinks that this trade was an excellent one, so I'll try to explain my reasoning:
To begin, you first have to look at the position that Danny Shelton plays in relation to the scheme that Greg Williams is attempting to run. Shelton is a classic 3-4 run-stopping nose tackle; however, Greg Williams employs a base 4-3 defensive scheme, of which Shelton is a poor fit. As mentioned by another poster on this thread, Shelton played less than 50% of the defensive snaps last year and I don't think that, if the Browns kept him, his playing time would improve.
Next, let's examine Shelton's contract details. For the past 3 years, Shelton has been making roughly 2 million dollars per season, and would make around another 2 million dollars if he stayed this season. While 2 million dollars does not seem like a great deal of money in the grand scheme of things, I believe that it is a poor use of resources on a player who does not indeed fit the defensive scheme that Greg Williams is attempting to employ, and the money could be used more efficiently elsewhere.
Finally, we need to examine Shelton contract details in relation to his potential free agent status. According to current the NFL collective bargaining agreement, the Browns would have had until May of this year to decide whether or not they wanted to pick up Shelton's 5th year option on his rookie contract. If not, he would have become a free agent after this upcoming season, and would have, with almost 100% certainty, have left the Browns for a different or better team, and the Browns would have ended up losing him anyway. If, however, the Browns had picked up his fifth year option, Shelton's salary next year would have been the average of the top 10 defensive tackles contracts in the NFL this year. This averages out to between roughly 8.1 million to 13.6 million depending on which defensive scheme the NFL ruled that the Browns were running under. Under this metric, the Browns would have paid Shelton four to six times his current salary cap hit for a player who still wouldn't fit the defensive scheme that the Browns were trying to run, and who would have most likely left in free agency after his fifth year anyway, so what would the Browns have gained in this deal?
By trading Shelton away, Dorsey and the Browns received a decent draft pick in exchange for the Patriots removing an ill-fitted player's potentially big salary cap hit; a player who would have probably left as a free agent anyway, leaving the Browns with nothing. Now the Browns can use that pick and the money they saved to go after a player who better fits what they're trying to run.
Hope this helps.
Precisely what I was saying. Shelton is likely to leave anyway, and most likely doesn't want to be here. The deal makes sense and will free up resources for people who want to play here.
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We already lost a 3rd rd pk for Hemoroid Taylor or what ever his gay butt name is. At this point they will trade Gordon for a 2023 7th rd pk........Fukn stupid. The only half way decent player we got so far was that wr from the Phins., Other than that I don't like what they did or are trying to do.
Guess you can't keep everyone happy...
Did you bother to look at Taylor's stats before you start labeling him garbage? Since being the starter for the Bills he's a 92 QBR guy, 51 TDs to 16 INTs. He's a massive improvement over the turnover machine we shipped off to Green Bay. Not only that, I can make a serious case Taylor was throwing to WRs that were even worse than what the Browns had last year. The more I've researched it, the better I like this trade. His $16 million contract is in line with a mid level starter, and won't be a cap buster like Cousins would have been. BTW, Taylor is 6'0" tall- meaning Dorsey won't have any problems drafting a certain 6'0" quarterback from Oklahoma if he checks all the boxes.
Taylor's Stats: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/T/TaylTy00.htm
Guess you can't keep everyone happy...
Did you bother to look at Taylor's stats before you start labeling him garbage? Since being the starter for the Bills he's a 92 QBR guy, 51 TDs to 16 INTs. He's a massive improvement over the turnover machine we shipped off to Green Bay. Not only that, I can make a serious case Taylor was throwing to WRs that were even worse than what the Browns had last year. The more I've researched it, the better I like this trade. His $16 million contract is in line with a mid level starter, and won't be a cap buster like Cousins would have been. BTW, Taylor is 6'0" tall- meaning Dorsey won't have any problems drafting a certain 6'0" quarterback from Oklahoma if he checks all the boxes.
Taylor's Stats: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/T/TaylTy00.htm
All this did was create more bs. We are going to draft a qb and when Taylor does not win games from the get go people are going to be crying for the rookie, Just like they did for Quinn and Colt and JF and all the rest. We have seen it before LIKE EVERY EF'N YEAR.
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I may be in the minority here who thinks that this trade was an excellent one, so I'll try to explain my reasoning:
To begin, you first have to look at the position that Danny Shelton plays in relation to the scheme that Greg Williams is attempting to run. Shelton is a classic 3-4 run-stopping nose tackle; however, Greg Williams employs a base 4-3 defensive scheme, of which Shelton is a poor fit. As mentioned by another poster on this thread, Shelton played less than 50% of the defensive snaps last year and I don't think that, if the Browns kept him, his playing time would improve.
Next, let's examine Shelton's contract details. For the past 3 years, Shelton has been making roughly 2 million dollars per season, and would make around another 2 million dollars if he stayed this season. While 2 million dollars does not seem like a great deal of money in the grand scheme of things, I believe that it is a poor use of resources on a player who does not indeed fit the defensive scheme that Greg Williams is attempting to employ, and the money could be used more efficiently elsewhere.
Finally, we need to examine Shelton contract details in relation to his potential free agent status. According to current the NFL collective bargaining agreement, the Browns would have had until May of this year to decide whether or not they wanted to pick up Shelton's 5th year option on his rookie contract. If not, he would have become a free agent after this upcoming season, and would have, with almost 100% certainty, have left the Browns for a different or better team, and the Browns would have ended up losing him anyway. If, however, the Browns had picked up his fifth year option, Shelton's salary next year would have been the average of the top 10 defensive tackles contracts in the NFL this year. This averages out to between roughly 8.1 million to 13.6 million depending on which defensive scheme the NFL ruled that the Browns were running under. Under this metric, the Browns would have paid Shelton four to six times his current salary cap hit for a player who still wouldn't fit the defensive scheme that the Browns were trying to run, and who would have most likely left in free agency after his fifth year anyway, so what would the Browns have gained in this deal?
By trading Shelton away, Dorsey and the Browns received a decent draft pick in exchange for the Patriots removing an ill-fitted player's potentially big salary cap hit; a player who would have probably left as a free agent anyway, leaving the Browns with nothing. Now the Browns can use that pick and the money they saved to go after a player who better fits what they're trying to run.
Hope this helps.
Precisely what I was saying. Shelton is likely to leave anyway, and most likely doesn't want to be here. The deal makes sense and will free up resources for people who want to play here.
Precisely what I was saying. Shelton is likely to leave anyway, and most likely doesn't want to be here. The deal makes sense and will free up resources for people who want to play here.
I have to admit, at first I was pissed. I just didn't see why we'd trade a solid player for so little. But then I read that Shelton only played in 44% of the defensive stats, and he wasn't really a great fit in our 4-3. So ultimately it makes sense, I think I'm just so overly frustrated by losing yet another first round pick. Also, we're probably going to lose ANOTHER one when we ship out Corey Coleman. I actually want to be wrong and hope we keep him because we wouldn't get value and I sincerely believe he has what it takes to be a meaningful player. But...how hard is it to draft in the first freaking round?! Lord, we fans are all so frustrated because we study the players we want, our team NEVER DRAFTS them, and then we trade down and take someone our fans don't want, and the cycle begins all over.
It....isn't....that....difficult. Draft the best players that you've RESEARCHED and don't trade down like a bunch of asshats.
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