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  • The Jets have just pushed all-in against the Bills.  The Bills now MUST make a deal for either #2 with N.Y. Giants or with us for #4 no matter what it costs them- and it just got a LOT more expensive.  What do you think the Bills would now have to give NY for #2?  What would they have to give us to move out of #4 (not saying we should do it, just saying, what do you think the price today would be?)

    Dutch OvenD 1 Reply

  • To move to #2, it will cost them both 1st this year, a 1st next year, and probably a 2nd or 3rd this year as well. To move to #4 the cost would be very similar, 3 1st rounders plus additional pick perhaps in 2019. However, the Browns should not do this, they are guaranteed to get Chubb or Barkley now plus their QB of choice.

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  • O onkyoreceiver

    The Jets have just pushed all-in against the Bills.  The Bills now MUST make a deal for either #2 with N.Y. Giants or with us for #4 no matter what it costs them- and it just got a LOT more expensive.  What do you think the Bills would now have to give NY for #2?  What would they have to give us to move out of #4 (not saying we should do it, just saying, what do you think the price today would be?)

    @onkyoreceiver said:

    The Jets have just pushed all-in against the Bills.  The Bills now MUST make a deal for either #2 with N.Y. Giants or with us for #4 no matter what it costs them- and it just got a LOT more expensive.  What do you think the Bills would now have to give NY for #2?  What would they have to give us to move out of #4 (not saying we should do it, just saying, what do you think the price today would be?)

    Something along the lines of the Bills two 1st rounders (#12 and #22) and next year's 2nd rounder, I would guess? Maybe more?

  • runyon27R runyon27

    To move to #2, it will cost them both 1st this year, a 1st next year, and probably a 2nd or 3rd this year as well. To move to #4 the cost would be very similar, 3 1st rounders plus additional pick perhaps in 2019. However, the Browns should not do this, they are guaranteed to get Chubb or Barkley now plus their QB of choice.

    @runyon27 said:

    To move to #2, it will cost them both 1st this year, a 1st next year, and probably a 2nd or 3rd this year as well. To move to #4 the cost would be very similar, 3 1st rounders plus additional pick perhaps in 2019. However, the Browns should not do this, they are guaranteed to get Chubb or Barkley now plus their QB of choice.

    I'd rather have Fitzpatrick over Barkley, but I agree with the spirit of this 100%

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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    @runyon27 said:

    To move to #2, it will cost them both 1st this year, a 1st next year, and probably a 2nd or 3rd this year as well. To move to #4 the cost would be very similar, 3 1st rounders plus additional pick perhaps in 2019. However, the Browns should not do this, they are guaranteed to get Chubb or Barkley now plus their QB of choice.

    I'd rather have Fitzpatrick over Barkley, but I agree with the spirit of this 100%

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'd rather have Fitzpatrick over Barkley, but I agree with the spirit of this 100%

    Chubb or Fitz for me, but also 100% do not trade down. If anything pick 1,4 and trade back into the first. 

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  • this was bills plan to get to Colts..with Gettleman.. now add in the rape the 9'ers to bears  https://www.sbnation.com/2018/3/14/17114618/buffalo-bills-nfl-draft-2018-trade-up-quarterback  

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  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    @runyon27 said:

    To move to #2, it will cost them both 1st this year, a 1st next year, and probably a 2nd or 3rd this year as well. To move to #4 the cost would be very similar, 3 1st rounders plus additional pick perhaps in 2019. However, the Browns should not do this, they are guaranteed to get Chubb or Barkley now plus their QB of choice.

    I'd rather have Fitzpatrick over Barkley, but I agree with the spirit of this 100%

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'd rather have Fitzpatrick over Barkley, but I agree with the spirit of this 100%

    I wouldn't hate Fitzpatrick either. None of those guys would be there if you drop to 12.

    Dutch OvenD 1 Reply
  • ComeonmanC Comeonman

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'd rather have Fitzpatrick over Barkley, but I agree with the spirit of this 100%

    Chubb or Fitz for me, but also 100% do not trade down. If anything pick 1,4 and trade back into the first. 

    @comeonman said:

    Chubb or Fitz for me, but also 100% do not trade down. If anything pick 1,4 and trade back into the first. 

    I wonder how far back into the 1st round the #33 and #35 picks could get the Browns? (Not saying they should do this, just curious)

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  • runyon27R runyon27

    @dutch-oven said:

    I'd rather have Fitzpatrick over Barkley, but I agree with the spirit of this 100%

    I wouldn't hate Fitzpatrick either. None of those guys would be there if you drop to 12.

    @runyon27 said:

    I wouldn't hate Fitzpatrick either. None of those guys would be there if you drop to 12.

    Maybe Derwin James or Denzel Ward? But not Fitzpatrick, yes. 

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    @comeonman said:

    Chubb or Fitz for me, but also 100% do not trade down. If anything pick 1,4 and trade back into the first. 

    I wonder how far back into the 1st round the #33 and #35 picks could get the Browns? (Not saying they should do this, just curious)

    @dutch-oven said:

    I wonder how far back into the 1st round the #33 and #35 picks could get the Browns? (Not saying they should do this, just curious)

    Definitely not saying they should unless someone just happens to fall that they like, but I would imagine only around 20 at best 

  • How surprised would you be if we take Barkley/Chubb in the 1st round? Follow with someone like Lamar Jackson or Mike White in round 2? Not asking if you'd like it but rather if you'd be surprised by it. Barkley is definitely not out of the question as Hydes deal in all practicality can be 1 year deal. I'm also not convinced they don't see Tyrod as a multi year solution at QB. You don't give up a 2nd rounder for a 1 year rental QB. 

  • I figured some team would trade up to go for a QB.

    All the more reason for the Browns to get it right at #1.... and It does look more likely we'll be able to get Chubb at #4. Him with Garrett and Ogunjobi would be awesome 

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  • They didn't. It was a 3rd rounder.

  • The reality is that with the offensive weapons we have ALREADY amassed (not including potentially Barkley) Tyrod Taylor could possibly play MUCH better than he did in Buffalo.  I don't know all what went down in Buffalo but it  seemed like an extremely toxic situation for Taylor to have to deal with (organization-wise to say nothing of talent-wise).  He may well be a much better QB in Cleveland, all things considered.  There is the possibility he can be more than just a bridge here.  Not saying don't take our QB @ #1, just that Taylor could potentially be the best QB moving forward the next several years.  It's one possibility.

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  • QB @ #1 & we're good at 4. That being said, IF the Bills call us after #3 is taken, then that means the guy they want at 4 is still there. THAT'S when the price goes through the roof for #4. For me to even consider it (not saying I would), the price would be AT LEAST 12, 22, and (2) 2nd rounders this year.

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  • Dorsey may be getting a call from the Bills and have them by the short and curlies if he chooses to hear them out.

    Hanging out and getting one of Chubb, Fitzpatrick, or Ward doesn’t hurt my feelings at all.

  • S SD_Tom

    I figured some team would trade up to go for a QB.

    All the more reason for the Browns to get it right at #1.... and It does look more likely we'll be able to get Chubb at #4. Him with Garrett and Ogunjobi would be awesome 

    @sd_tom said:

    I figured some team would trade up to go for a QB.

    All the more reason for the Browns to get it right at #1.... and It does look more likely we'll be able to get Chubb at #4. Him with Garrett and Ogunjobi would be awesome 

    Does anyone have a clue as to who is being targeted by the Jets?    Why do I think it is likely Rosen.  Or, are they enamored with Baker Mayfield.  Or, are they just willing to take any of 3 guys.

    OR....do they have a hard on for Barkley????   No?  Its a thought.  

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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @sd_tom said:

    I figured some team would trade up to go for a QB.

    All the more reason for the Browns to get it right at #1.... and It does look more likely we'll be able to get Chubb at #4. Him with Garrett and Ogunjobi would be awesome 

    Does anyone have a clue as to who is being targeted by the Jets?    Why do I think it is likely Rosen.  Or, are they enamored with Baker Mayfield.  Or, are they just willing to take any of 3 guys.

    OR....do they have a hard on for Barkley????   No?  Its a thought.  

    @the-gipper said:

    Does anyone have a clue as to who is being targeted by the Jets?    Why do I think it is likely Rosen.  Or, are they enamored with Baker Mayfield.  Or, are they just willing to take any of 3 guys.

    OR....do they have a hard on for Barkley????   No?  Its a thought.  

    Everyone in Jets land believes its a QB and not Barkley. Rosen or Mayfield seem likely to me, but I suppose Allen could be target as well.

  • Winners - those getting more picks and the best available talent 

    Losers - those overreaching for the quarterbacks in this draft

    The BROWNS might not be done trading, we'll see on that, it will be a memorable draft this year. They should do very well.

    GO BUCKEYES, BROWNS, INDIANS, CAVS, YSU, NAVY and yes I like ND!
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  • Bills will trade to #2 or try to get our #1. Likely the Jets want Rosen, I think. Giants could easily trade to #3 from #2 if they had to. We probably have to stand pat and take a QB at #1, or end up with the last one of Rosen, Allen, Mayfield, and D'Arnold most likely.

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