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  • T TexasAg1969

    @clevelandmilidh said:

    Cleveland's not even in the top 40 in terms of crime rate by city

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States...s_by_crime_rate

    According to that chart you provided Cleveland's crime rate of 1556+ per 100,000 is #7 worst in the country after St. Louis, Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, KC and Milwaukee. Read the chart again under "Total" per 100,000.

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    @texasag1969 said:

    According to that chart you provided Cleveland's crime rate of 1556+ per 100,000 is #7 worst in the country after St. Louis, Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, KC and Milwaukee. Read the chart again under "Total" per 100,000.

    I wrote:

    Per the FBI's list of cities with the most violent crimes per capita, the following top the list:

    1. New York

    2. Los Angeles

    3. Chicago

    4. Houston

    5. Phoenix

    6. Philadelphia

    7. Las Vegas

    8. San Antonio

    9. Dallas

    10. San Diego

    11. San Jose

    12. Honolulu

    Tell me where you think I got this data from

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      @texasag1969 said:

      According to that chart you provided Cleveland's crime rate of 1556+ per 100,000 is #7 worst in the country after St. Louis, Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, KC and Milwaukee. Read the chart again under "Total" per 100,000.

      I wrote:

      Per the FBI's list of cities with the most violent crimes per capita, the following top the list:

      1. New York

      2. Los Angeles

      3. Chicago

      4. Houston

      5. Phoenix

      6. Philadelphia

      7. Las Vegas

      8. San Antonio

      9. Dallas

      10. San Diego

      11. San Jose

      12. Honolulu

      Tell me where you think I got this data from

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      @the-gipper said:

      Tell me where you think I got this data from

      Not yours Gip. I was using the total crime rate per 100,000 from the quote I included in my response.

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        @the-gipper said:

        Tell me where you think I got this data from

        Not yours Gip. I was using the total crime rate per 100,000 from the quote I included in my response.

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        @texasag1969 said:

        Not yours Gip. I was using the total crime rate per 100,000 from the quote I included in my response.

        Well, I used something that said "FBI list of cities with most violent crimes per capita."   I don't know if I used Wikipedia, or the FBI's own website, or something else.   I didn't make it up.  Not sure where I got it. 

        (remember also...I did this research in 2010....the stats you reflect are from 2017.   Don't know if things could have changed that drastically in that time.

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          @clevelandmilidh said:

          Cleveland's not even in the top 40 in terms of crime rate by city

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States...s_by_crime_rate

          According to that chart you provided Cleveland's crime rate of 1556+ per 100,000 is #7 worst in the country after St. Louis, Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, KC and Milwaukee. Read the chart again under "Total" per 100,000.

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          @texasag1969 said:

          According to that chart you provided Cleveland's crime rate of 1556+ per 100,000 is #7 worst in the country after St. Louis, Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, KC and Milwaukee. Read the chart again under "Total" per 100,000.

          One bad side of town or neighborhood or suburb can kind of ruin things for a ciy or region happens now all over the world.

          Just look at South Chicago or the east side of Cleveland or South Central LA or many other cities now. 

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            @texasag1969 said:

            According to that chart you provided Cleveland's crime rate of 1556+ per 100,000 is #7 worst in the country after St. Louis, Detroit, Baltimore, Memphis, KC and Milwaukee. Read the chart again under "Total" per 100,000.

            One bad side of town or neighborhood or suburb can kind of ruin things for a ciy or region happens now all over the world.

            Just look at South Chicago or the east side of Cleveland or South Central LA or many other cities now. 

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            @mjp28 said:

            One bad side of town or neighborhood or suburb can kind of ruin things for a ciy or region happens now all over the world.

            Just look at South Chicago or the east side of Cleveland or South Central LA or many other cities now. 

            There are areas of Houston and Dallas I would definitely have on my concealed 9mm (I have the license to carry).

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              Cleveland is definetely a high crime city, the suburbs are mostly safe however.  I wouldn't go to E78th and St. Clair where my dear grandparents lived now or I would probably be killed because I'm white.

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                Cleveland is definetely a high crime city, the suburbs are mostly safe however.  I wouldn't go to E78th and St. Clair where my dear grandparents lived now or I would probably be killed because I'm white.

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                @diehardbrownsfan said:

                Cleveland is definetely a high crime city, the suburbs are mostly safe however.  I wouldn't go to E78th and St. Clair where my dear grandparents lived now or I would probably be killed because I'm white.

                You might more likely be killed for some other reasons.

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                  @diehardbrownsfan said:

                  Cleveland is definetely a high crime city, the suburbs are mostly safe however.  I wouldn't go to E78th and St. Clair where my dear grandparents lived now or I would probably be killed because I'm white.

                  You might more likely be killed for some other reasons.

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                  @the-gipper said:

                  You might more likely be killed for some other reasons.

                  Not likely.

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                    @the-gipper said:

                    You might more likely be killed for some other reasons.

                    Not likely.

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                    @diehardbrownsfan said:

                    Not likely.

                    YeahYeah

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                      Cleveland is definetely a high crime city, the suburbs are mostly safe however.  I wouldn't go to E78th and St. Clair where my dear grandparents lived now or I would probably be killed because I'm white.

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                      @diehardbrownsfan said:

                      Cleveland is definetely a high crime city, the suburbs are mostly safe however.  I wouldn't go to E78th and St. Clair where my dear grandparents lived now or I would probably be killed because I'm white.

                      There are areas in our wonderful country that even our well armed and trained police won't go without backup.  Sad.

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                        @diehardbrownsfan said:

                        Cleveland is definetely a high crime city, the suburbs are mostly safe however.  I wouldn't go to E78th and St. Clair where my dear grandparents lived now or I would probably be killed because I'm white.

                        There are areas in our wonderful country that even our well armed and trained police won't go without backup.  Sad.

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                        @mjp28 said:

                        There are areas in our wonderful country that even our well armed and trained police won't go without backup.  Sad.

                        Sherlock Holmes said that he would rather hang around some of the worst slums of London rather than be out into the countryside because he thought crime out there was far worse so maybe it’s the same in this country maybe the cities are safer than the country. 

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                          @mjp28 said:

                          There are areas in our wonderful country that even our well armed and trained police won't go without backup.  Sad.

                          Sherlock Holmes said that he would rather hang around some of the worst slums of London rather than be out into the countryside because he thought crime out there was far worse so maybe it’s the same in this country maybe the cities are safer than the country. 

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                          Sherlock Holmes said that he would rather hang around some of the worst slums of London rather than be out into the countryside because he thought crime out there was far worse so maybe it’s the same in this country maybe the cities are safer than the country. 

                          The bayous of Louisiana hold a lot of secrets. James Lee Burke is an excellent crime novel writer that brings that to life in his "Dave Robicheaux" books. But the best kept secret is the deep woods of East Texas. Rumor has it that the mafia that operated in Galveston years ago loved to "visit" The Big Thicket" with their former "friends".

                          https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=AwrEeNuIjjldVAkA9wwPxQt.;_ylu=X3oDMTByMjB0aG5zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--?p=the+big+thicket+east+texas&fr=yhs-pty-pty_packages&hspart=pty&hsimp=yhs-pty_packages#id=68&iurl=https%3A%2F%2Fmyrahmcilvain.files.wordpress.com%2F2013%2F05%2F20100330143955old_big_thicket.png&action=click

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                            @the-gipper said:

                            Sherlock Holmes said that he would rather hang around some of the worst slums of London rather than be out into the countryside because he thought crime out there was far worse so maybe it’s the same in this country maybe the cities are safer than the country. 

                            The bayous of Louisiana hold a lot of secrets. James Lee Burke is an excellent crime novel writer that brings that to life in his "Dave Robicheaux" books. But the best kept secret is the deep woods of East Texas. Rumor has it that the mafia that operated in Galveston years ago loved to "visit" The Big Thicket" with their former "friends".

                            https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=AwrEeNuIjjldVAkA9wwPxQt.;_ylu=X3oDMTByMjB0aG5zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--?p=the+big+thicket+east+texas&fr=yhs-pty-pty_packages&hspart=pty&hsimp=yhs-pty_packages#id=68&iurl=https%3A%2F%2Fmyrahmcilvain.files.wordpress.com%2F2013%2F05%2F20100330143955old_big_thicket.png&action=click

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                            @texasag1969 said:

                            The bayous of Louisiana hold a lot of secrets. James Lee Burke is an excellent crime novel writer that brings that to life in his "Dave Robicheaux" books. But the best kept secret is the deep woods of East Texas. Rumor has it that the mafia that operated in Galveston years ago loved to "visit" The Big Thicket" with their former "friends".

                            https://images.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search;_ylt=AwrEeNuIjjldVAkA9wwPxQt.;_ylu=X3oDMTByMjB0aG5zBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzYw--?p=the+big+thicket+east+texas&fr=yhs-pty-pty_packages&hspart=pty&hsimp=yhs-pty_packages#id=68&iurl=https%3A%2F%2Fmyrahmcilvain.files.wordpress.com%2F2013%2F05%2F20100330143955old_big_thicket.png&action=click

                            Yep, been there to the Big Thicket.

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                              Well my old favorite Forbes magazine 20 happiest and unhappiest cities in 2019........hello Ohio?  

                              Top 20 Happiest Cities in America https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurabegleybloom/2019/03/12/20-happiest-and-20-unhappiest-cities-in-america/#7a6bad483a70

                              1. Plano, Texas
                              2. Irvine, California
                              3. Madison, Wisconsin
                              4. Fremont, California
                              5. Huntington Beach, California
                              6. Fargo, North Dakota
                              7. Grand Prairie, Texas
                              8. San Jose, California
                              9. Scottsdale, Arizona
                              10. San Francisco, California
                              11. Bismarck, North Dakota
                              12. Overland Park, Kansas
                              13. Santa Rosa, California
                              14. Austin, Texas
                              15. Sioux Falls, South Dakota
                              16. Pearl City, Hawaii
                              17. Glendale, California
                              18. San Diego, California
                              19. St. Paul, Minnesota
                              20. Charleston, South Carolina

                              20 Unhappiest Cities in America

                              1. Detroit, Michigan
                              2. Toledo, Ohio
                              3. Charleston, West Virginia
                              4. Birmingham, Alabama
                              5. Cleveland, Ohio
                              6. Gulfport, Mississippi
                              7. Little Rock, Arkansas
                              8. Huntington, West Virginia
                              9. Newark, New Jersey
                              10. Mobile, Alabama
                              11. Augusta, Georgia
                              12. St. Louis, Missouri
                              13. Fort Smith, Arkansas
                              14. Cincinnati, Ohio
                              15. Akron, Ohio
                              16. Fayetteville, North Carolina
                              17. Columbus, Georgia
                              18. Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
                              19. Memphis, Tennessee
                              20. Shreveport, Louisiana
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                              @mjp28 said:

                              Well my old favorite Forbes magazine 20 happiest and unhappiest cities in 2019........hello Ohio?  

                              Top 20 Happiest Cities in America https://www.forbes.com/sites/laurabegleybloom/2019/03/12/20-happiest-and-20-unhappiest-cities-in-america/#7a6bad483a70

                              1. Plano, Texas
                              2. Irvine, California
                              3. Madison, Wisconsin
                              4. Fremont, California
                              5. Huntington Beach, California
                              6. Fargo, North Dakota
                              7. Grand Prairie, Texas
                              8. San Jose, California
                              9. Scottsdale, Arizona
                              10. San Francisco, California
                              11. Bismarck, North Dakota
                              12. Overland Park, Kansas
                              13. Santa Rosa, California
                              14. Austin, Texas
                              15. Sioux Falls, South Dakota
                              16. Pearl City, Hawaii
                              17. Glendale, California
                              18. San Diego, California
                              19. St. Paul, Minnesota
                              20. Charleston, South Carolina

                              20 Unhappiest Cities in America

                              1. Detroit, Michigan
                              2. Toledo, Ohio
                              3. Charleston, West Virginia
                              4. Birmingham, Alabama
                              5. Cleveland, Ohio
                              6. Gulfport, Mississippi
                              7. Little Rock, Arkansas
                              8. Huntington, West Virginia
                              9. Newark, New Jersey
                              10. Mobile, Alabama
                              11. Augusta, Georgia
                              12. St. Louis, Missouri
                              13. Fort Smith, Arkansas
                              14. Cincinnati, Ohio
                              15. Akron, Ohio
                              16. Fayetteville, North Carolina
                              17. Columbus, Georgia
                              18. Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
                              19. Memphis, Tennessee
                              20. Shreveport, Louisiana

                              How was happiness or unhappiness measured what did they use a massive mood ring. 

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                                So who is this baseball Boomhauer? 1 Post?

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                                  So who is this baseball Boomhauer? 1 Post?

                                  WSS

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                                  @westside-steve said:

                                  So who is this baseball Boomhauer? 1 Post?

                                  WSS

                                  Not sure what you are referring to. 

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                                    @westside-steve said:

                                    So who is this baseball Boomhauer? 1 Post?

                                    WSS

                                    Not sure what you are referring to. 

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                                    @the-gipper said:

                                    Not sure what you are referring to. 

                                    The guy that wrote the second Post in this thread.

                                    Has contributed one post and that's the bitch about Cleveland I'm smelling troll.

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                                      Can't argue with what he posted ..

                                      It's old but at the time very relevant. There were 5 Ohio cities on the list in his link from Forbes.

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                                        Can't argue with what he posted ..

                                        It's old but at the time very relevant. There were 5 Ohio cities on the list in his link from Forbes.

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                                        @axe said:

                                        Can't argue with what he posted ..

                                        It's old but at the time very relevant. There were 5 Ohio cities on the list in his link from Forbes.

                                        The hell I can't argue with what he posted. Why  on earth would you ever think that bullshit is inarguable?

                                        Again...here are the criteria that the article he posted used:

                                        Our Misery Measure takes into account:

                                        unemployment,

                                        taxes (both sales and income),

                                        commute times,

                                        violent crime

                                        and how its pro sports teams have fared over the past two years. We also factored in two indexes put together by Portland, Ore., researcher Bert Sperling that gauge

                                        weather and

                                        Superfund pollution sites.  (Superfund sites are ground pollution issues. Why is not air and water pollution a factor as well?

                                        Lastly we considered corruption based on convictions of public officials in each area as tracked by the Public Integrity Section of the U.S. Department of Justice.  (I am trying to figure out how this particular matter has anything to do with overall happiness)

                                        I guess I could go through these all again and demonstrate how Cleveland is NOT anywhere near at the top of these lists than many, many other cities. 

                                        If I were to get updated to 2018 data....similar to what I had put on here before, again, I can guarantee that a city like San Diego suffers even worse in all these categories than does Cleveland.  Hell...as I said, they had another sports team leave town....where Cleveland had teams in the sports championship finals 5 times in the last  5-6 years. 

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                                          Unemployment for 2019:

                                          https://www.bls.gov/web/metro/laummtrk.htm

                                          Cleveland at  4.7%.  About average for all US metro areas.

                                          All of the following had higher:

                                          Danville, IL Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          4.7 308

                                          Elizabethtown-Fort Knox, KY Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          4.7 308

                                          New Bern, NC Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          4.7 308

                                          Waterbury, CT Metropolitan NECTA

                                          4.7 308

                                          Wheeling, WV-OH Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          4.7 308

                                          Clarksville, TN-KY Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          4.8 316

                                          Goldsboro, NC Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          4.8 316

                                          Greensboro-High Point, NC Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          4.8 316

                                          Las Vegas-Henderson-Paradise, NV Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          4.8 316

                                          Memphis, TN-MS-AR Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          4.8 316

                                          Salinas, CA Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          4.8 316

                                          Scranton--Wilkes-Barre--Hazleton, PA Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          4.8 316

                                          Baton Rouge, LA Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          4.9 323

                                          East Stroudsburg, PA Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          4.9 323

                                          Prescott, AZ Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          4.9 323

                                          Bay City, MI Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.0 326

                                          Beckley, WV Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.0 326

                                          Decatur, IL Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.0 326

                                          New Orleans-Metairie, LA Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.0 326

                                          Tucson, AZ Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.0 326

                                          Grants Pass, OR Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.1 331

                                          Saginaw, MI Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.1 331

                                          Sebring, FL Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.1 331

                                          Walla Walla, WA Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.1 331

                                          Bremerton-Silverdale, WA Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.2 335

                                          Chico, CA Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.2 335

                                          Greenville, NC Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.2 335

                                          Hattiesburg, MS Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.2 335

                                          Homosassa Springs, FL Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.2 335

                                          Houma-Thibodaux, LA Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.2 335

                                          Lafayette, LA Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.2 335

                                          Parkersburg-Vienna, WV Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.2 335

                                          The Villages, FL Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.2 335

                                          Albuquerque, NM Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.3 344

                                          Jackson, MS Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.3 344

                                          Jacksonville, NC Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.3 344

                                          Johnstown, PA Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.3 344

                                          Kennewick-Richland, WA Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.3 344

                                          Olympia-Tumwater, WA Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.3 344

                                          Rockford, IL Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.3 344

                                          Bellingham, WA Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.4 351

                                          Fairbanks, AK Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.4 351

                                          Flint, MI Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.4 351

                                          Huntington-Ashland, WV-KY-OH Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.4 351

                                          Pine Bluff, AR Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.4 351

                                          Weirton-Steubenville, WV-OH Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.5 356

                                          Beaumont-Port Arthur, TX Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.6 357

                                          Brownsville-Harlingen, TX Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.6 357

                                          Spokane-Spokane Valley, WA Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.6 357

                                          Youngstown-Warren-Boardman, OH-PA Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.6 357

                                          Alexandria, LA Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.7 361

                                          Anchorage, AK Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.7 361

                                          Fayetteville, NC Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.7 361

                                          Shreveport-Bossier City, LA Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.7 361

                                          Monroe, LA Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.8 365

                                          Mount Vernon-Anacortes, WA Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.8 365

                                          Cumberland, MD-WV Metropolitan Statistical Area

                                          5.9 367

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