BROWNS ODDS MAKING PLAYOFFS with *6-9 start (*revised 12-23) at 0.00%.....game over..
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Oh God we're in a race with Cincinnati to see who gets a better draft pick.

The opportunity for a bottom 5 or 8 draft pick has now slipped away with the good teams, better luck next year, come again.
Haven't we played this game before...................for years.
And it has nothing to do with being a good or great die hard BROWNS fan. We're all BROWNS fans or we wouldn't be here at all and I expect our numbers will dwindle again over the winter unless the BROWNS pull together for some fantastic finish for that elusive 15th draft pick, lol.
Maybe losing is like medicine and you have to take it to get better I don't know except that I've had plenty of both over the past five years.
GO BROWNS, just win baby! Winning can cure some ails that nothing else can........ period.
Spot on dude. And forgive me but I just don’t see successful NFL head coach in Fred’s future.
Spot on dude. And forgive me but I just don’t see successful NFL head coach in Fred’s future.
High school is always nice.
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In case you forgot and we're wondering the high point of the season and CLE had an edge over BAL at winning the division. No wonder we were all so giddy.
What a difference a big win makes!
AFC North....after the win at Baltimore
Team W-L DAVE Mean Wins #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 DIV BYE WC TOT CHANGE BAL 2-2 10.8% 8.9 2.2% 6.5% 15.5% 15.0% 6.5% 7.4% 39.2% 8.7% 13.9% 53.1% -24.5% *CLE 2-2 2.9% 8.8 2.1% 6.6% 15.0% 19.7% 5.3% 7.3% *43.4% 8.7% 12.7% *56.1% 21.9% yeah baby we could taste it, now it just tastes like $&\¥ PIT 1-3 -3.4% 7.3 0.2% 2.0% 6.1% 8.4% 3.6% 5.8% 16.6% 2.1% 9.3% 25.9% 15.3% CIN 0-4 -28.9% 4.1 0.0% 0.0% 0.2% 0.6% 0.1% 0.4% 0.8% 0.0% 0.5% 1.2% -3.3% -
In case you forgot and we're wondering the high point of the season and CLE had an edge over BAL at winning the division. No wonder we were all so giddy.
What a difference a big win makes!
AFC North....after the win at Baltimore
Team W-L DAVE Mean Wins #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 DIV BYE WC TOT CHANGE BAL 2-2 10.8% 8.9 2.2% 6.5% 15.5% 15.0% 6.5% 7.4% 39.2% 8.7% 13.9% 53.1% -24.5% *CLE 2-2 2.9% 8.8 2.1% 6.6% 15.0% 19.7% 5.3% 7.3% *43.4% 8.7% 12.7% *56.1% 21.9% yeah baby we could taste it, now it just tastes like $&\¥ PIT 1-3 -3.4% 7.3 0.2% 2.0% 6.1% 8.4% 3.6% 5.8% 16.6% 2.1% 9.3% 25.9% 15.3% CIN 0-4 -28.9% 4.1 0.0% 0.0% 0.2% 0.6% 0.1% 0.4% 0.8% 0.0% 0.5% 1.2% -3.3% In case you forgot and we're wondering the high point of the season and CLE had an edge over BAL at winning the division. No wonder we were all so giddy.
What a difference a big win makes!
AFC North....after the win at Baltimore
Team W-L DAVE Mean Wins #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 DIV BYE WC TOT CHANGE BAL 2-2 10.8% 8.9 2.2% 6.5% 15.5% 15.0% 6.5% 7.4% 39.2% 8.7% 13.9% 53.1% -24.5% *CLE 2-2 2.9% 8.8 2.1% 6.6% 15.0% 19.7% 5.3% 7.3% *43.4% 8.7% 12.7% *56.1% 21.9% yeah baby we could taste it, now it just tastes like $&\¥ PIT 1-3 -3.4% 7.3 0.2% 2.0% 6.1% 8.4% 3.6% 5.8% 16.6% 2.1% 9.3% 25.9% 15.3% CIN 0-4 -28.9% 4.1 0.0% 0.0% 0.2% 0.6% 0.1% 0.4% 0.8% 0.0% 0.5% 1.2% -3.3% 
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Here's the updated odds after the win over Buffalo and going to 3-6 and a 10.1% shot at the playoffs, we will see what 4-6 looks like after this weekend is completed.
AFC North
Team W-L WEI DVOA Mean Wins #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 DIV BYE WC TOT CHANGE BAL 7-2 23.8% 11.6 23.6% 40.7% 16.4% 9.8% 4.1% 2.2% 90.5% 64.3% 6.3% 96.8% 3.7% PIT 5-4 -0.5% 8.8 0.1% 4.0% 2.7% 1.4% 25.9% 18.1% 8.2% 4.2% 44.0% 52.2% 14.2% CLE 3-6 -11.5% 6.8 0.0% 0.2% 0.4% 0.7% 3.5% 5.4% 1.3% 0.2% 8.9% 10.1% <--- 1/10 right now 1.6% CIN 0-9 -42.4% 1.9 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% on the clock?0.0% -0.0% -
And here it is at 4-6 and the task ahead is simple (not really) keep winning and hope for a wild card for any shot at the playoffs.
AFC North
Team W-L WEI DVOA Mean Wins #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 DIV BYE WC TOT CHANGE BAL 8-2 33.5% 12.3 27.0% 53.5% 14.3% 3.4% 0.6% 0.5% 98.3% 80.6% 1.2% 99.4% 2.7% PIT 5-5 -4.7% 7.9 0.0% 0.4% 0.3% 0.3% 13.1% 13.4% 1.0% 0.4% 26.5% 27.5% -24.7% CLE * 4-6 -4.7% 7.4 0.0% 0.2% 0.3% 0.3% 7.1% 10.3% 0.7% 0.2% * 17.4% * 18.1% * up 8.0% CIN 0-10 -37.1% 1.9 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% -
Definitely the time (of course, on top of winning) to root for those wonky losses for teams ahead. Bengals v Steelers, Jets v Raiders, etc. Even one of those teams taking a "bad loss" makes the odds better.
Just wish we had that damn Denver game back-only one that really sticks in my craw. 5-5 with that win, and the schedule we have would be sitting pretty strong.
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Definitely the time (of course, on top of winning) to root for those wonky losses for teams ahead. Bengals v Steelers, Jets v Raiders, etc. Even one of those teams taking a "bad loss" makes the odds better.
Just wish we had that damn Denver game back-only one that really sticks in my craw. 5-5 with that win, and the schedule we have would be sitting pretty strong.
Just wish we had that damn Denver game back-only one that really sticks in my craw. 5-5 with that win, and the schedule we have would be sitting pretty strong.
Yeah when you miss a layup or 2' putt you don't get those back..... especially when they are up the numbers at the end of the game.
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The Denver game was the most disappointing this year.
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The Denver game was the most disappointing this year.
Yep... basically took any excitement I had left out of the season. Outside of coming on this site, I’ve turned everything off Browns related except games... I will say, not listening to Bull and Fox on my drive home has actually put me in a better mood most days.... those guys really annoy me...
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The Denver game was the most disappointing this year.
Remember last season when they finished 7-8-1 and we're at least close to thinking about the playoffs "IF" certain things and overtime games went the other way?
This year it will be games like DEN and others that just slipped away...... unless they can run the table without a certain all pro guy.
GO BROWNS, we have to be the toughest fans in sports !
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Well at 5-6 things have turned around from around 10% to about 21.5% with that nice 3 game win streak. -but-. the next must win game is up with the BROWNS a slight favorite in the Cleveland-Pittsburgh II main event !
The second wild card spot is also getting interesting.
Team W-L WEI DVOA Mean Wins #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 DIV BYE WC TOT CHANGE NE 10-1 41.4% 14.0 72.3% 25.5% 1.7% 0.2% 0.3% 0.0% 99.7% 97.8% 0.3% √ 100.0% 0.0% BUF 8-3 0.4% 9.8 0.2% 0.1% 0.0% 0.0% 60.8% 19.8% 0.3% 0.3% √ 80.7% 81.0% √ 22.8% NYJ 4-7 -0.9% 6.6 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.2% 0.6% 0.0% 0.0% 0.8% 0.8% 0.3% MIA 2-9 -37.3% 3.4 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% Team
W-L WEI DVOA Mean Wins #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 DIV BYE WC TOT CHANGE BAL 9-2 44.0% 12.8 26.8% 62.7% 8.8% 1.1% 0.2% 0.2% √ 99.5% √ 89.5% 0.4% √ 99.9% 0.4% PIT 6-5 -3.9% 8.0 0.0% 0.2% 0.2% 0.1% 12.7% 14.4% 0.4% 0.2% 27.0% 27.4% -0.1% CLE * 5-6 1.0% 7.7 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.1% 7.8% 13.6% 0.1% 0.0% * 21.4% * 21.5% * 3.4% CIN 0-11 -33.2% 1.5 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% x 0.0% -
Well with a 5-7 start the BROWNS have pretty much ended any serious talk about making the 2019 playoffs with a 4.8% chance of getting a wild card spot.
Better luck next year.
AFC North
Team W-L WEI DVOA Mean Wins #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 DIV BYE WC TOT CHANGE BAL 10-2 44.9% 13.1 64.7% 30.4% 3.5% 0.8% 0.1% 0.4% 99.5% 95.1% 0.5% 100.0% 0.1% PIT 7-5 2.0% 8.7 0.0% 0.2% 0.2% 0.1% 13.1% 26.6% 0.5% 0.2% 39.7% 40.3% 12.8% CLE * 5-7 2.1% * 7.1 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% * 0.3% * 4.6% 0.0% 0.0% * 4.8% 4.8% ** -16.7% CIN 1-11 -23.2% 2.4 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% -
Tour the eternal optimist. Yes there actually are two slim and none and slim just left town.
In thinking this over for days on end the BROWNS meager 5% mathematical chance to make the playoff might be slightly enhanced by their somewhat easy schedule.
In any case we get to watch one week at a time and find out. The Cinci game should take them to 6-7 with three games to go.
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Exactly . They should be 6-7 after Cincinnati and 7-7 after cardinals.
Then comes the Baltimore game. Win and we are 8-7.
Beat cinci again 9-7
Realistically we will go 8-8 but Pittsburgh and Tennessee have some tough games.
Pittsburgh can easily go 2-2 or 1-3 in thier final 4 games bringing them to 8-8 or 9-7
Titans have Texans, Texans, raiders, saints. They just might drop all 4
Colts are 6-6 and probably be 8-8
With the tough road the stealers and titans have ....shockingly the browns could go 8-8 and get in.
If they go 9-7 I think they get in. My gut tells me Tennessee , indi, Oakland and Steelers are all gonna go 8-8
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Tour the eternal optimist. Yes there actually are two slim and none and slim just left town.
In thinking this over for days on end the BROWNS meager 5% mathematical chance to make the playoff might be slightly enhanced by their somewhat easy schedule.
In any case we get to watch one week at a time and find out. The Cinci game should take them to 6-7 with three games to go.
In thinking this over for days on end the BROWNS meager 5% mathematical chance to make the playoff might be slightly enhanced by their somewhat easy schedule.
In any case we get to watch one week at a time and find out. The Cinci game should take them to 6-7 with three games to go.
Well the instructions to the BROWNS keep swimming and don't look back. Mathematically even going 6-7 has barely helped their odds at 5.5% of getting the last playoff spot without a lot of 8-5 teams falling apart at just the right time. HOWEVER going to 7-7 and then beating Baltimore (a 7 point favorite now) will help the cause.
GO BROWNS, just win baby.....and don't look back !
AFC North
Team W-L WEI DVOA Mean Wins #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 DIV BYE WC TOT CHANGE BAL 11-2 47.2% 13.5 95.6% 3.1% 1.2% 0.0% 0.1% 0.0% 99.9% 98.8% 0.1% 100.0% 0.0% PIT 8-5 3.8% 9.2 0.0% 0.1% 0.0% 0.0% 30.3% 29.7% 0.1% 0.1% 60.0% 60.1% 19.6% CLE 6-7 0.0% 7.4 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.3% 5.1% 0.0% 0.0% 5.5% 5.5% 0.7% CIN 1-12 -17.2% 2.3
AFC East
Team W-L WEI DVOA Mean Wins #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 DIV BYE WC TOT CHANGE NE 10-3 28.7% 12.3 3.1% 71.3% 19.1% 1.7% 4.7% 0.0% 95.2% 74.4% 4.8% 100.0% -0.0% BUF 9-4 8.6% 10.5 0.0% 2.6% 2.1% 0.1% 62.8% 26.2% 4.8% 2.6% 89.0% 93.8% 0.4% MIA 3-10 -27.8% 4.0 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% NYJ 5-8 -13.1% 5.8 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% AFC South
Team W-L WEI DVOA Mean Wins #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 DIV BYE WC TOT CHANGE TEN 8-5 16.4% 9.8 0.0% 0.7% 20.1% 33.8% 0.4% 15.2% 54.6% 0.7% 15.6% 70.2% 17.8% HOU 8-5 -6.3% 9.1 0.0% 0.4% 9.1% 34.1% 1.3% 21.6% 43.6% 0.4% 22.9% 66.5% -21.2% IND 6-7 5.9% 7.7 0.0% 0.0% 0.1% 1.8% 0.0% 0.8% 1.9% 0.0% 0.8% 2.7% -8.4% JAX 4-9 -27.2% 5.1 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% -0.1% -
Well here are the odds whether it's Star Wars or the AFCN when you're a 100/1 shot or a 1.1% of winning or doing anything you're basically screwed !
So much for our lovable Brownies and their 2019 playoff aspirations. Well at least Pittsburgh lost last week also ! Better luck next year.
AFC North
Team W-L WEI DVOA Mean Wins #1 #2 #3 #4 #5 #6 DIV BYE WC TOT CHANGE BAL 12-2 44.6% 13.5 95.3% 3.1% 1.7% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 100.0% 98.3% 0.0% 100.0% 0.0% PIT 8-6 1.7% 8.8 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 38.2% 0.0% 0.0% 38.2% 38.2% -21.9% CLE 6-8 -7.0% 6.8 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 1.1% 0.0% 0.0% 1.1% 1.1% -4.3% CIN 1-13 -15.4% 2.1 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0% 0.0%
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