The 'Who you watching?' 2020 thread.
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In general, I'll be checking out Tight Ends (cue George Takei: "ohhhhhhhhhh myyyyyyyyy") because Baker seems to thrive out of 2 TE sets and our TE group is pretty 'eh'.
Seems like a position the Browns could do well on in the mid rounds.
IF IF IF....Njoku can get over his injuries.....he could be all that. I guess he was in Ferd's doghouse....but who wasn't among the receiving corps. Lets say he does improve...who is to be on the other side of this 2 TE set?
IF IF IF....Njoku can get over his injuries.....he could be all that. I guess he was in Ferd's doghouse....but who wasn't among the receiving corps. Lets say he does improve...who is to be on the other side of this 2 TE set?
I don’t see Njoku anything more than a rotational piece. Probably worth holding onto not expensive (restricted fa after next season unrestricted in two). He doesn’t do anything well. Way too inconsistent. One of our guys that is good for l a head scratching penalty (we could rid ourselves of handful of guys on our roster that fall into this category).
seals jones did fine in his place more reliable too. this seems to be a position at least in our past scheme that Baker targets a lot.
id prefer an all around stud at this position pass catcher good blocker.
id drop Harris next year.
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As for Hurts; thinking Bill tries his hand at getting his own version of Lamar lite?
Yup... and if not Bill someone will... maybe Roman, if he ends up with an HC gig.
I actually like Hurts' chances. He won't be the elusive runner Lamar is, but he has speed and one-cut ability. Plus he has arm talent and showed at OU that he can pick up a new offense PDQ. It'll take some patience, but should end up worth it.
Yup... and if not Bill someone will... maybe Roman, if he ends up with an HC gig.
I actually like Hurts' chances. He won't be the elusive runner Lamar is, but he has speed and one-cut ability. Plus he has arm talent and showed at OU that he can pick up a new offense PDQ. It'll take some patience, but should end up worth it.
Yeah but the missing ingredient (elusive) huge.
I’d take Taysom Hill type QB/Runner/Pass catcher. He was a weapon today. Probably a great tool for a play caller.
the next Lamar ain’t walking through any door anytime soon.
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Yup... and if not Bill someone will... maybe Roman, if he ends up with an HC gig.
I actually like Hurts' chances. He won't be the elusive runner Lamar is, but he has speed and one-cut ability. Plus he has arm talent and showed at OU that he can pick up a new offense PDQ. It'll take some patience, but should end up worth it.
Yeah but the missing ingredient (elusive) huge.
I’d take Taysom Hill type QB/Runner/Pass catcher. He was a weapon today. Probably a great tool for a play caller.
the next Lamar ain’t walking through any door anytime soon.
Yeah but the missing ingredient (elusive) huge.
I’d take Taysom Hill type QB/Runner/Pass catcher. He was a weapon today. Probably a great tool for a play caller.
the next Lamar ain’t walking through any door anytime soon.
Agree... and watching Hill was fun wasn't it. I did not realize he was pushing 30 years old... must have gone on a Mormon mission before attending BYU.
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Yeah but the missing ingredient (elusive) huge.
I’d take Taysom Hill type QB/Runner/Pass catcher. He was a weapon today. Probably a great tool for a play caller.
the next Lamar ain’t walking through any door anytime soon.
Agree... and watching Hill was fun wasn't it. I did not realize he was pushing 30 years old... must have gone on a Mormon mission before attending BYU.
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I watch a lot of Big Ten games throughout the year.
Nico Collins WR Michigan. Been on the radar since OSU-UM game 2018. 6-4” played boundary and slot performed through shaky QB play. Makes tough catches and looks like he’s a good athlete despite 6-4 220 frame.
Malik Harrison LB OSU not the typical highly rated OSU recruit Cbus kid. But developed the last two years. Instinctive. Not a great athlete but makes plays behind the line of scrimmage and in coverage. Played the role of eraser especially last season making up for assignment mistakes of fellow players. Later round steal.
Zack Baun Edge Wisconsin. Perhaps TJ Watt Part 2. Complete player. Find a place for him no matter the scheme. He’s probably going first round especially if he tests well
I watch a lot of Big Ten games throughout the year.
Nico Collins WR Michigan. Been on the radar since OSU-UM game 2018. 6-4” played boundary and slot performed through shaky QB play. Makes tough catches and looks like he’s a good athlete despite 6-4 220 frame.
FYI Nico just announced he's returning to school next year.
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I watch a lot of Big Ten games throughout the year.
Nico Collins WR Michigan. Been on the radar since OSU-UM game 2018. 6-4” played boundary and slot performed through shaky QB play. Makes tough catches and looks like he’s a good athlete despite 6-4 220 frame.
FYI Nico just announced he's returning to school next year.
FYI Nico just announced he's returning to school next year.
Crazy. DPJ should be the one staying IMO.
Nico is NFL ready much like Shaun Wade. I think both are coming back to be the guy and move up the draft boards but both could contribute next Fall on NFL rosters.
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Yeah but the missing ingredient (elusive) huge.
I’d take Taysom Hill type QB/Runner/Pass catcher. He was a weapon today. Probably a great tool for a play caller.
the next Lamar ain’t walking through any door anytime soon.
Agree... and watching Hill was fun wasn't it. I did not realize he was pushing 30 years old... must have gone on a Mormon mission before attending BYU.
Agree... and watching Hill was fun wasn't it. I did not realize he was pushing 30 years old... must have gone on a Mormon mission before attending BYU.
Yeah I recall him being an older college player too. He’s fit a role that they have given him nicely but he’s a surprisingly good athlete. The run he had trucking the DB doing the no arm tackle was a thing of beauty.
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Agree... and watching Hill was fun wasn't it. I did not realize he was pushing 30 years old... must have gone on a Mormon mission before attending BYU.
Yeah I recall him being an older college player too. He’s fit a role that they have given him nicely but he’s a surprisingly good athlete. The run he had trucking the DB doing the no arm tackle was a thing of beauty.
Yeah I recall him being an older college player too. He’s fit a role that they have given him nicely but he’s a surprisingly good athlete. The run he had trucking the DB doing the no arm tackle was a thing of beauty.
But is he really potentially Drew Brees' replacement, or is this his ceiling? I've heard announcers at least twice say that some think he might be the Saints QB, but there's a huge difference between being a change up to an opposing defense and being the starter.
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Yeah I recall him being an older college player too. He’s fit a role that they have given him nicely but he’s a surprisingly good athlete. The run he had trucking the DB doing the no arm tackle was a thing of beauty.
But is he really potentially Drew Brees' replacement, or is this his ceiling? I've heard announcers at least twice say that some think he might be the Saints QB, but there's a huge difference between being a change up to an opposing defense and being the starter.
But is he really potentially Drew Brees' replacement, or is this his ceiling? I've heard announcers at least twice say that some think he might be the Saints QB, but there's a huge difference between being a change up to an opposing defense and being the starter.
You don’t replace Drew Brees. I don’t see him as that answer.
He has a defined role and the OC is masterful with his use.
but who knows...
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FYI Nico just announced he's returning to school next year.
Crazy. DPJ should be the one staying IMO.
Nico is NFL ready much like Shaun Wade. I think both are coming back to be the guy and move up the draft boards but both could contribute next Fall on NFL rosters.
Crazy. DPJ should be the one staying IMO.
Nico is NFL ready much like Shaun Wade. I think both are coming back to be the guy and move up the draft boards but both could contribute next Fall on NFL rosters.
The best reason I can think of is that, even though Nico had the production, there are concerns about his athleticism at the next level. Another year of real dominance as a true #1 might help him. Nico may get lost in the sea of top WRs coming out.
DPJ on the other hand was always going to be a combine guy. Regardless of production, his athleticism would show up through the draft process.
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Keeping my eye on? Buckeyes.
Chase Young..DE....top 1 or 2
Okudah..CB....top 5 maybe, no later than top 10
Dobbins....RB...late 1st, early 2d round.
Malik Harrison....LB...somewhere in 2d round.
Damon Arnette....CB...late 2d
Thayer Munford ....OT...3rd round
Devon Hamilton...DT... early 3rd
Jordan Fuller DB...4th round
KJ Hill ...WR....4th round
Others: Jonah Jackson OL; Austin Mack WR; Jonathan Cooper DL. Benjamin Victor WR.
So....as many as a dozen Buckeyes could get picked.
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Keeping my eye on? Buckeyes.
Chase Young..DE....top 1 or 2
Okudah..CB....top 5 maybe, no later than top 10
Dobbins....RB...late 1st, early 2d round.
Malik Harrison....LB...somewhere in 2d round.
Damon Arnette....CB...late 2d
Thayer Munford ....OT...3rd round
Devon Hamilton...DT... early 3rd
Jordan Fuller DB...4th round
KJ Hill ...WR....4th round
Others: Jonah Jackson OL; Austin Mack WR; Jonathan Cooper DL. Benjamin Victor WR.
So....as many as a dozen Buckeyes could get picked.
Keeping my eye on? Buckeyes.
Chase Young..DE....top 1 or 2
Okudah..CB....top 5 maybe, no later than top 10
Dobbins....RB...late 1st, early 2d round.
Malik Harrison....LB...somewhere in 2d round.
Damon Arnette....CB...late 2d
Thayer Munford ....OT...3rd round
Devon Hamilton...DT... early 3rd
Jordan Fuller DB...4th round
KJ Hill ...WR....4th round
Others: Jonah Jackson OL; Austin Mack WR; Jonathan Cooper DL. Benjamin Victor WR.
So....as many as a dozen Buckeyes could get picked.
Cooper is back to OSU.
Fuller and Hill great value in the 4th. Fuller reminds me of Kurt Coleman.
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Tua declares, he is going into the draft despite his somewhat serious injuries.
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Tua declares, he is going into the draft despite his somewhat serious injuries.
Tua declares, he is going into the draft despite his somewhat serious injuries.
PFF loves the kid. But I just don't see it. I think he's a good athlete, surrounded by superior talent. Going to take a great deal of work to make him a QB between the ears.
Speaking of PFF... Had an interaction with one of their data scientists. Interesting lot, those guys.
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Tua declares, he is going into the draft despite his somewhat serious injuries.
PFF loves the kid. But I just don't see it. I think he's a good athlete, surrounded by superior talent. Going to take a great deal of work to make him a QB between the ears.
Speaking of PFF... Had an interaction with one of their data scientists. Interesting lot, those guys.
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I'm a hard pass on Tua unless he craters into the second or third round...He's one who has to prove it to me. I have never seen what the analysts say are great. He doesn't hold a candle to Lawarence. Who BTW, if he wins the national championship again this year, how amazing would it be if he was like, "No, I'm good. I don't need to play CFB next year. You have seen my tape. I'll see you guys at the draft." If I was his parent, that's exactly what I would make him do.
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I'm a hard pass on Tua unless he craters into the second or third round...He's one who has to prove it to me. I have never seen what the analysts say are great. He doesn't hold a candle to Lawarence. Who BTW, if he wins the national championship again this year, how amazing would it be if he was like, "No, I'm good. I don't need to play CFB next year. You have seen my tape. I'll see you guys at the draft." If I was his parent, that's exactly what I would make him do.
I'm a hard pass on Tua unless he craters into the second or third round...He's one who has to prove it to me. I have never seen what the analysts say are great. He doesn't hold a candle to Lawarence. Who BTW, if he wins the national championship again this year, how amazing would it be if he was like, "No, I'm good. I don't need to play CFB next year. You have seen my tape. I'll see you guys at the draft." If I was his parent, that's exactly what I would make him do.
You make excellent points. I agree on Tua......and I agree that if Lawrence were in this draft, he would be hands down #1. And I predict that Clemson will win....due in great part to him.
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Trevor Lawrence very well may have been the #1 overall pick in the draft LAST year.....and he certainly would be that this coming draft. But he is not eligible to enter the league. But, he will be a year from now.
So....let the Phrase Coinage begin:
Lay Down for Lawrence
Tank for Trevor.
So, lets go there: Which teams WILL be Tanking for Trevor?
LIons? Jags? Dolphins? Chargers? How about the freeking New England Patriots.....tanking to get the #1 pick! Or....the fucking Pittsburgh Steelers!! Both of whom would be in need of fresh blood at QB come after next season.
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I'm a hard pass on Tua unless he craters into the second or third round...He's one who has to prove it to me. I have never seen what the analysts say are great. He doesn't hold a candle to Lawarence. Who BTW, if he wins the national championship again this year, how amazing would it be if he was like, "No, I'm good. I don't need to play CFB next year. You have seen my tape. I'll see you guys at the draft." If I was his parent, that's exactly what I would make him do.
You make excellent points. I agree on Tua......and I agree that if Lawrence were in this draft, he would be hands down #1. And I predict that Clemson will win....due in great part to him.
You make excellent points. I agree on Tua......and I agree that if Lawrence were in this draft, he would be hands down #1. And I predict that Clemson will win....due in great part to him.
Tua wouldn’t be 2 in next years draft either.
Id put Fields over Tua too
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