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  • @tiamat63 said:

    As for Hurts;   thinking Bill tries his hand at getting his own version of Lamar lite?

    Yup... and if not Bill someone will... maybe Roman, if he ends up with an HC gig.

    I actually like Hurts' chances. He won't be the elusive runner Lamar is, but he has speed and one-cut ability. Plus he has arm talent and showed at OU that he can pick up a new offense PDQ. It'll take some patience, but should end up worth it.

    @tour2ma said:

    Yup... and if not Bill someone will... maybe Roman, if he ends up with an HC gig.

    I actually like Hurts' chances. He won't be the elusive runner Lamar is, but he has speed and one-cut ability. Plus he has arm talent and showed at OU that he can pick up a new offense PDQ. It'll take some patience, but should end up worth it.

    Yeah but the missing ingredient (elusive) huge.

    I’d take Taysom Hill type QB/Runner/Pass catcher.  He was a weapon today.  Probably a great tool for a play caller.

    the next Lamar ain’t walking through any door anytime soon. 

  • @tour2ma said:

    Yup... and if not Bill someone will... maybe Roman, if he ends up with an HC gig.

    I actually like Hurts' chances. He won't be the elusive runner Lamar is, but he has speed and one-cut ability. Plus he has arm talent and showed at OU that he can pick up a new offense PDQ. It'll take some patience, but should end up worth it.

    Yeah but the missing ingredient (elusive) huge.

    I’d take Taysom Hill type QB/Runner/Pass catcher.  He was a weapon today.  Probably a great tool for a play caller.

    the next Lamar ain’t walking through any door anytime soon. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Yeah but the missing ingredient (elusive) huge.

    I’d take Taysom Hill type QB/Runner/Pass catcher.  He was a weapon today.  Probably a great tool for a play caller.

    the next Lamar ain’t walking through any door anytime soon. 

    Agree... and watching Hill was fun wasn't it. I did not realize he was pushing 30 years old... must have gone on a Mormon mission before attending BYU.

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Yeah but the missing ingredient (elusive) huge.

    I’d take Taysom Hill type QB/Runner/Pass catcher.  He was a weapon today.  Probably a great tool for a play caller.

    the next Lamar ain’t walking through any door anytime soon. 

    Agree... and watching Hill was fun wasn't it. I did not realize he was pushing 30 years old... must have gone on a Mormon mission before attending BYU.

    @tour2ma said:

    Agree... and watching Hill was fun wasn't it. I did not realize he was pushing 30 years old... must have gone on a Mormon mission before attending BYU.

    He did.  They said that. 

  • I watch a lot of Big Ten games throughout the year.
    Nico Collins WR Michigan.  Been on the radar since OSU-UM game 2018.  6-4” played boundary and slot performed through shaky QB play. Makes tough catches and looks like he’s a good athlete despite 6-4 220 frame.  
     

    Malik Harrison LB OSU not the typical highly rated OSU recruit Cbus kid.  But developed the last two years.  Instinctive. Not a great athlete but makes plays behind the line of scrimmage and in coverage.  Played the role of eraser especially last season making up for assignment mistakes of fellow players. Later round steal. 
     

    Zack Baun Edge Wisconsin.  Perhaps TJ Watt Part 2.  Complete player.  Find a place for him no matter the scheme.  He’s probably going first round especially if he tests well

    @sdbacker80 said:

    I watch a lot of Big Ten games throughout the year.
    Nico Collins WR Michigan.  Been on the radar since OSU-UM game 2018.  6-4” played boundary and slot performed through shaky QB play. Makes tough catches and looks like he’s a good athlete despite 6-4 220 frame.  
     

    FYI Nico just announced he's returning to school next year.

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    I watch a lot of Big Ten games throughout the year.
    Nico Collins WR Michigan.  Been on the radar since OSU-UM game 2018.  6-4” played boundary and slot performed through shaky QB play. Makes tough catches and looks like he’s a good athlete despite 6-4 220 frame.  
     

    FYI Nico just announced he's returning to school next year.

    @mld-woody said:

    FYI Nico just announced he's returning to school next year.

    Crazy.  DPJ should be the one staying IMO.  

    Nico is NFL ready much like Shaun Wade.  I think both are coming back to be the guy and move up the draft boards but both could contribute next Fall on NFL rosters. 

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Yeah but the missing ingredient (elusive) huge.

    I’d take Taysom Hill type QB/Runner/Pass catcher.  He was a weapon today.  Probably a great tool for a play caller.

    the next Lamar ain’t walking through any door anytime soon. 

    Agree... and watching Hill was fun wasn't it. I did not realize he was pushing 30 years old... must have gone on a Mormon mission before attending BYU.

    @tour2ma said:

    Agree... and watching Hill was fun wasn't it. I did not realize he was pushing 30 years old... must have gone on a Mormon mission before attending BYU.

    Yeah I recall him being an older college player too.  He’s fit a role that they have given him nicely but he’s a surprisingly good athlete. The run he had trucking the DB doing the no arm tackle was a thing of beauty. 

  • @tour2ma said:

    Agree... and watching Hill was fun wasn't it. I did not realize he was pushing 30 years old... must have gone on a Mormon mission before attending BYU.

    Yeah I recall him being an older college player too.  He’s fit a role that they have given him nicely but he’s a surprisingly good athlete. The run he had trucking the DB doing the no arm tackle was a thing of beauty. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Yeah I recall him being an older college player too.  He’s fit a role that they have given him nicely but he’s a surprisingly good athlete. The run he had trucking the DB doing the no arm tackle was a thing of beauty. 

    But is he really potentially Drew Brees' replacement, or is this his ceiling? I've heard announcers at least twice say that some think he might be the Saints QB, but there's a huge difference between being a change up to an opposing defense and being the starter. 

  • @sdbacker80 said:

    Yeah I recall him being an older college player too.  He’s fit a role that they have given him nicely but he’s a surprisingly good athlete. The run he had trucking the DB doing the no arm tackle was a thing of beauty. 

    But is he really potentially Drew Brees' replacement, or is this his ceiling? I've heard announcers at least twice say that some think he might be the Saints QB, but there's a huge difference between being a change up to an opposing defense and being the starter. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    But is he really potentially Drew Brees' replacement, or is this his ceiling? I've heard announcers at least twice say that some think he might be the Saints QB, but there's a huge difference between being a change up to an opposing defense and being the starter. 

    You don’t replace Drew Brees.  I don’t see him as that answer. 

    He has a defined role and the OC is masterful with his use.  
     

    but who knows...

  • @mld-woody said:

    FYI Nico just announced he's returning to school next year.

    Crazy.  DPJ should be the one staying IMO.  

    Nico is NFL ready much like Shaun Wade.  I think both are coming back to be the guy and move up the draft boards but both could contribute next Fall on NFL rosters. 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Crazy.  DPJ should be the one staying IMO.  

    Nico is NFL ready much like Shaun Wade.  I think both are coming back to be the guy and move up the draft boards but both could contribute next Fall on NFL rosters. 

    The best reason I can think of is that, even though Nico had the production, there are concerns about his athleticism at the next level. Another year of real dominance as a true #1 might help him. Nico may get lost in the sea of top WRs coming out.

    DPJ on the other hand was always going to be a combine guy. Regardless of production, his athleticism would show up through the draft process. 

  • Keeping my eye on?   Buckeyes.    

    Chase Young..DE....top 1 or 2

    Okudah..CB....top 5 maybe, no later than top 10

    Dobbins....RB...late 1st, early 2d round.

    Malik Harrison....LB...somewhere in 2d round.

    Damon Arnette....CB...late 2d

    Thayer Munford ....OT...3rd round

    Devon Hamilton...DT...  early 3rd

    Jordan Fuller  DB...4th round

    KJ Hill ...WR....4th round

    Others:    Jonah Jackson OL;    Austin Mack  WR;   Jonathan Cooper DL.  Benjamin Victor WR.

    So....as many as a dozen Buckeyes could get picked. 

  • Keeping my eye on?   Buckeyes.    

    Chase Young..DE....top 1 or 2

    Okudah..CB....top 5 maybe, no later than top 10

    Dobbins....RB...late 1st, early 2d round.

    Malik Harrison....LB...somewhere in 2d round.

    Damon Arnette....CB...late 2d

    Thayer Munford ....OT...3rd round

    Devon Hamilton...DT...  early 3rd

    Jordan Fuller  DB...4th round

    KJ Hill ...WR....4th round

    Others:    Jonah Jackson OL;    Austin Mack  WR;   Jonathan Cooper DL.  Benjamin Victor WR.

    So....as many as a dozen Buckeyes could get picked. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Keeping my eye on?   Buckeyes.    

    Chase Young..DE....top 1 or 2

    Okudah..CB....top 5 maybe, no later than top 10

    Dobbins....RB...late 1st, early 2d round.

    Malik Harrison....LB...somewhere in 2d round.

    Damon Arnette....CB...late 2d

    Thayer Munford ....OT...3rd round

    Devon Hamilton...DT...  early 3rd

    Jordan Fuller  DB...4th round

    KJ Hill ...WR....4th round

    Others:    Jonah Jackson OL;    Austin Mack  WR;   Jonathan Cooper DL.  Benjamin Victor WR.

    So....as many as a dozen Buckeyes could get picked. 

    Cooper is back to OSU.

    Fuller and Hill great value in the 4th.  Fuller reminds me of Kurt Coleman.  
    I’d also take a flier on guys like Austin Mack And Jonah Jackson.  Jackson just came into a national title contender seamless transition and I thought played really well.  

  • Tua declares,  he is going into the draft despite his somewhat serious injuries. 

  • Tua declares,  he is going into the draft despite his somewhat serious injuries. 

    @the-gipper said:

    Tua declares,  he is going into the draft despite his somewhat serious injuries. 

    PFF loves the kid.  But I just don't see it. I think he's a good athlete, surrounded by superior talent.   Going to take a great deal of work to make him a QB between the ears. 

    Speaking of PFF... Had an interaction with one of their data scientists.   Interesting lot, those guys.

  • @the-gipper said:

    Tua declares,  he is going into the draft despite his somewhat serious injuries. 

    PFF loves the kid.  But I just don't see it. I think he's a good athlete, surrounded by superior talent.   Going to take a great deal of work to make him a QB between the ears. 

    Speaking of PFF... Had an interaction with one of their data scientists.   Interesting lot, those guys.

    @tiamat63 said:

    PFF loves the kid.  But I just don't see it. I think he's a good athlete, surrounded by superior talent.   Going to take a great deal of work to make him a QB between the ears. 

    I basically agree.

  • I'm a hard pass on Tua unless he craters into the second or third round...He's one who has to prove it to me. I have never seen what the analysts say are great. He doesn't hold a candle to Lawarence. Who BTW, if he wins the national championship again this year, how amazing would it be if he was like, "No, I'm good. I don't need to play CFB next year. You have seen my tape. I'll see you guys at the draft." If I was his parent, that's exactly what I would make him do. 

  • I'm a hard pass on Tua unless he craters into the second or third round...He's one who has to prove it to me. I have never seen what the analysts say are great. He doesn't hold a candle to Lawarence. Who BTW, if he wins the national championship again this year, how amazing would it be if he was like, "No, I'm good. I don't need to play CFB next year. You have seen my tape. I'll see you guys at the draft." If I was his parent, that's exactly what I would make him do. 

    @bigalow80 said:

    I'm a hard pass on Tua unless he craters into the second or third round...He's one who has to prove it to me. I have never seen what the analysts say are great. He doesn't hold a candle to Lawarence. Who BTW, if he wins the national championship again this year, how amazing would it be if he was like, "No, I'm good. I don't need to play CFB next year. You have seen my tape. I'll see you guys at the draft." If I was his parent, that's exactly what I would make him do. 

    You make excellent points.  I agree on Tua......and I agree that if Lawrence were in this draft, he would be hands down #1.   And I predict that Clemson will win....due in great part to him. 

  • Trevor Lawrence very well may have been the #1 overall pick in the draft LAST year.....and he certainly would be that this coming draft.  But he is not eligible to enter the league.  But, he will be a year from now.

    So....let the Phrase Coinage begin:

    Lay Down for Lawrence

    Tank for Trevor.

    So, lets go there:    Which teams WILL  be Tanking for Trevor? 

    LIons?  Jags?  Dolphins?  Chargers?  How about the freeking New England Patriots.....tanking to get the #1 pick!  Or....the fucking Pittsburgh Steelers!! Both of whom would be in need of fresh blood at QB come after next season. 

  • @bigalow80 said:

    I'm a hard pass on Tua unless he craters into the second or third round...He's one who has to prove it to me. I have never seen what the analysts say are great. He doesn't hold a candle to Lawarence. Who BTW, if he wins the national championship again this year, how amazing would it be if he was like, "No, I'm good. I don't need to play CFB next year. You have seen my tape. I'll see you guys at the draft." If I was his parent, that's exactly what I would make him do. 

    You make excellent points.  I agree on Tua......and I agree that if Lawrence were in this draft, he would be hands down #1.   And I predict that Clemson will win....due in great part to him. 

    @the-gipper said:

    You make excellent points.  I agree on Tua......and I agree that if Lawrence were in this draft, he would be hands down #1.   And I predict that Clemson will win....due in great part to him. 

    Tua wouldn’t be 2 in next years draft either.

    Id put Fields over Tua too 

  • @the-gipper said:

    You make excellent points.  I agree on Tua......and I agree that if Lawrence were in this draft, he would be hands down #1.   And I predict that Clemson will win....due in great part to him. 

    Tua wouldn’t be 2 in next years draft either.

    Id put Fields over Tua too 

    @sdbacker80 said:

    Tua wouldn’t be 2 in next years draft either.

    Id put Fields over Tua too 

    Not sure I'd go that far.   Tua has a ways to go, but Fields is quite raw as a passer.