Survey Tuesday AFCN and beyond
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Categories associated herewith to analyze:
A. Here are players that the Browns have signed that they did not have last year that are expected to be talent upgrades on their roster from what was there last year:
Offense: Jack Conklin RT, Austin Hooper TE, Andy Janovich FB (didn't even have a FB last year)
Defense: Clayborn DE Billings DT, Goodson MLB , Sendejo FS, Karl Joseph SS (While some of these are slated as backups, they are still an upgrade from the backups they replaced)
B. Biggest Loss not necessarily replaced : Joe Schobert MLB
C. Expected to return to form from injury/doghouse: Olivier Vernon DE, OBJ, Jarvis WRs and Rashard Higgins WR.
D. Second year guys expected (hoped) to step up: Takitaki, LB Mack Wilson LB, Greedy Williams CB, Sheldrick Redwine? FS (not to mention our QB even)
E. Available full time this year after missing half season on suspension: Kareem Hunt RB
F. Rookies expected to contribute significantly (perhaps even start) : Jed Wills and Trusts LOT; Jordan Elliot (or is it Elliot Jordan?) DT, Jake Phillips MLB, Nick Harris (backup OL)
Rob/Homo/Vagi-Tron can do a similar analysis for the Steelers
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Gipper you are making it really hard for me to be nice. ?
Mark barron was not good, ever for the steelers. Edmunds may drop down into the box more and we have guys in the wings that I won't even mention because you will poo poo it. Big red was good on special teams but we brought in someone better in derrick watt. I only mentioned Nelson because you mentioned the loss of artie burns who had 1 relevant season for the steelers but you listed it as a loss.
You keep mentioning dusty Springfield but you better be hoping big ben doesn't bounce back. It's always your m.o tho. I feel like you take zero of what anyone says into account the majority of the time and just insert your opinion as fact. The only reason the steelers werent a 10+ win team last year is qb play. As ice cube mentioned we get tuitt back who literally could not be blocked last year before injury.
Vanett was a depth signing, Ebron is world's better. The Steelers didn't need to add anyone to make a deep run. Ben is back, players are healthy.
AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month) -
Is that a photo of someone who read your riveting thread about how Nick Chubb is a very good RB? Because that was some earth-shattering news!
Next thread from Icecube: WATER IS WET!
Gipper you are making it really hard for me to be nice. ?
Mark barron was not good, ever for the steelers. Edmunds may drop down into the box more and we have guys in the wings that I won't even mention because you will poo poo it. Big red was good on special teams but we brought in someone better in derrick watt. I only mentioned Nelson because you mentioned the loss of artie burns who had 1 relevant season for the steelers but you listed it as a loss.
You keep mentioning dusty Springfield but you better be hoping big ben doesn't bounce back. It's always your m.o tho. I feel like you take zero of what anyone says into account the majority of the time and just insert your opinion as fact. The only reason the steelers werent a 10+ win team last year is qb play. As ice cube mentioned we get tuitt back who literally could not be blocked last year before injury.
Vanett was a depth signing, Ebron is world's better. The Steelers didn't need to add anyone to make a deep run. Ben is back, players are healthy.
If Roethlisberger comes back and plays at his regular level, there's no reason the Steelers couldn't be a 10 or 11 win team.
But that is not a guaranteed thing, especially at his age.
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Gipper you are making it really hard for me to be nice. ?
Mark barron was not good, ever for the steelers. Edmunds may drop down into the box more and we have guys in the wings that I won't even mention because you will poo poo it. Big red was good on special teams but we brought in someone better in derrick watt. I only mentioned Nelson because you mentioned the loss of artie burns who had 1 relevant season for the steelers but you listed it as a loss.
You keep mentioning dusty Springfield but you better be hoping big ben doesn't bounce back. It's always your m.o tho. I feel like you take zero of what anyone says into account the majority of the time and just insert your opinion as fact. The only reason the steelers werent a 10+ win team last year is qb play. As ice cube mentioned we get tuitt back who literally could not be blocked last year before injury.
Vanett was a depth signing, Ebron is world's better. The Steelers didn't need to add anyone to make a deep run. Ben is back, players are healthy.
If Roethlisberger comes back and plays at his regular level, there's no reason the Steelers couldn't be a 10 or 11 win team.
But that is not a guaranteed thing, especially at his age.
If Roethlisberger comes back and plays at his regular level, there's no reason the Steelers couldn't be a 10 or 11 win team.
But that is not a guaranteed thing, especially at his age.
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He thankfully looks really good and the reports about his arm are nothing but positive. Gonna have to see how he does with contact. He's says it's the first time in years his arm doesn't hurt.
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If Roethlisberger comes back and plays at his regular level, there's no reason the Steelers couldn't be a 10 or 11 win team.
But that is not a guaranteed thing, especially at his age.
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He thankfully looks really good and the reports about his arm are nothing but positive. Gonna have to see how he does with contact. He's says it's the first time in years his arm doesn't hurt.
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He thankfully looks really good and the reports about his arm are nothing but positive. Gonna have to see how he does with contact. He's says it's the first time in years his arm doesn't hurt.
The only thing against BR might be the division he's in the suddenly quarterback loaded AFCN even with junior over in Cincinnati.
It should be a really interesting 2020 if they can actually play tackle football without everyone ending in a big "timeout".
2021 might be interesting also.
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Gipper you are making it really hard for me to be nice. ?
Mark barron was not good, ever for the steelers. Edmunds may drop down into the box more and we have guys in the wings that I won't even mention because you will poo poo it. Big red was good on special teams but we brought in someone better in derrick watt. I only mentioned Nelson because you mentioned the loss of artie burns who had 1 relevant season for the steelers but you listed it as a loss.
You keep mentioning dusty Springfield but you better be hoping big ben doesn't bounce back. It's always your m.o tho. I feel like you take zero of what anyone says into account the majority of the time and just insert your opinion as fact. The only reason the steelers werent a 10+ win team last year is qb play. As ice cube mentioned we get tuitt back who literally could not be blocked last year before injury.
Vanett was a depth signing, Ebron is world's better. The Steelers didn't need to add anyone to make a deep run. Ben is back, players are healthy.
Gipper you are making it really hard for me to be nice. ?
Sorry if you cannot handle the facts. And that is all I am giving you.
Mark barron was not good, ever for the steelers. Edmunds may drop down into the box more and we have guys in the wings that I won't even mention because you will poo poo it. Big red was good on special teams but we brought in someone better in derrick watt. I only mentioned Nelson because you mentioned the loss of artie burns who had 1 relevant season for the steelers but you listed it as a loss.
I mention Barron and Burns because you lost them. Even if they were not starters there that you lost....how does saying "these are guys that weren't any good...yet they are NOT players that you replaced with better players. All you are telling us about are the players that are still holdovers from your team that went 8-8. So...no actual upgrades. Maybe the guys you have as holdovers are pretty good/Edmunds, Nelson, but they were starters last year. (and who is Big Red?). And again, I will poo poo the guys you have in the "wings" because they are obviously unproven rookies. See the post above where I listed ABCDEF....and do your analysis like that to include all those categories...and you can tell us about the guys you have "in the wings".
You keep mentioning dusty Springfield but you better be hoping big ben doesn't bounce back. It's always your m.o tho. I feel like you take zero of what anyone says into account the majority of the time and just insert your opinion as fact.
It is the other way around: I take facts (your opinions don't count as facts) and form opinions based on them. BR is a 38 year old QB coming off a lost season due to serious injury. That is fact. And your own team's writers say it is rare historically that guys come back from that situation. That too is fact. You believe, i.e. hope, wish, and dream that they are wrong. I said he had a 50/50 chance of doing so, so I am actually being more optimistic from your standpoint on that matter than your own people. I think that is being gracious, Dusty.
The only reason the steelers werent a 10+ win team last year is qb play. As ice cube mentioned we get tuitt back who literally could not be blocked last year before injury.
QB play was, yes, a major part of it. And as I said, all your dreams and hopes are squarely placed right there. (but the fact is, the other skill players on that offense are by NO means proven world beaters. MOR talent at best. Tuitt? In 5 years prior to 2019 he never made a Pro Bowl. He was playing well before he went down....but NOT appreciably better than his previous 5 seasons in the league. Still, sure, having him is better than not having him.
Vanett was a depth signing, Ebron is world's better.
World's better? Not sure about that. Better? Yes. I would not trade either of our top two TEs for either of them nor McDonald.
The Steelers didn't need to add anyone to make a deep run. Ben is back, players are healthy.
Actually...they did, because the teams they are competing against DID add significant talent. And The STeelers didn't keep up. Maybe they will be better, somewhat, with BR...you hope. (and if he stays healthy they should be...somewhat....better). But that may not be enough to stay in parity with the other AFCN team.
But, they will be well coached...and there is where you should hang your hat as much or more than on BR.
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Gipper you are making it really hard for me to be nice. ?
Mark barron was not good, ever for the steelers. Edmunds may drop down into the box more and we have guys in the wings that I won't even mention because you will poo poo it. Big red was good on special teams but we brought in someone better in derrick watt. I only mentioned Nelson because you mentioned the loss of artie burns who had 1 relevant season for the steelers but you listed it as a loss.
You keep mentioning dusty Springfield but you better be hoping big ben doesn't bounce back. It's always your m.o tho. I feel like you take zero of what anyone says into account the majority of the time and just insert your opinion as fact. The only reason the steelers werent a 10+ win team last year is qb play. As ice cube mentioned we get tuitt back who literally could not be blocked last year before injury.
Vanett was a depth signing, Ebron is world's better. The Steelers didn't need to add anyone to make a deep run. Ben is back, players are healthy.
If Roethlisberger comes back and plays at his regular level, there's no reason the Steelers couldn't be a 10 or 11 win team.
But that is not a guaranteed thing, especially at his age.
If Roethlisberger comes back and plays at his regular level, there's no reason the Steelers couldn't be a 10 or 11 win team.
But that is not a guaranteed thing, especially at his age.
Well...there is one reason....because, as I said, because the other teams in this division have improved greatly.
The other thing perhaps working in their favor (and that of the entire AFCN)...may be the schedule. The AFCN is not playing the toughest divisions in the league. Here is their schedule:
riday
Aug. 14
Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Preseason)Heinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 7:30pm ETLocal/NFLN Buy Tickets Sunday
Aug. 23
New Orleans Saints (Preseason)Heinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 8:00pm ETFOX Buy Tickets Friday
Aug. 28
at New York Jets (Preseason)MetLife Stadium, East Rutherford, NJ 7:30pm ETLocal/NFLN Buy Tickets Thursday
Sep. 3
at Carolina Panthers (Preseason)Bank of America Stadium, Charlotte, NC 7:30pm ETLocal/NFLN Buy Tickets Monday
Sep. 14
at New York GiantsMetLife Stadium, East Rutherford, NJ 7:15pm ETESPN Buy Tickets Sunday
Sep. 20
Denver BroncosHeinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 1:00pm ETCBS Buy Tickets Sunday
Sep. 27
Houston TexansHeinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 1:00pm ETCBS Buy Tickets Sunday
Oct. 4
at Tennessee TitansNissan Stadium, Nashville, TN 1:00pm ETCBS Buy Tickets Sunday
Oct. 11
Philadelphia EaglesHeinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 1:00pm ETFOX Buy Tickets Sunday
Oct. 18
Cleveland BrownsHeinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 1:00pm ETCBS Buy Tickets Sunday
Oct. 25
at Baltimore RavensM&T Bank Stadium, Baltimore, MD 1:00pm ETCBS Buy Tickets Sunday
Nov. 1BYE Sunday
Nov. 8
at Dallas CowboysAT&T Stadium, Arlington, TX 4:25pm ETCBS Buy Tickets Sunday
Nov. 15
Cincinnati BengalsHeinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 1:00pm ETFOX Buy Tickets Sunday
Nov. 22
at Jacksonville JaguarsTIAA Bank Field, Jacksonville, FL 1:00pm ETCBS Buy Tickets Thursday
Nov. 26
Baltimore RavensHeinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 8:20pm ETNBC Buy Tickets Sunday
Dec. 6
Washington RedskinsHeinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 1:00pm ETFOX Buy Tickets Sunday
Dec. 13
at Buffalo BillsNew Era Field, Orchard Park, NY 8:20pm ETNBC Buy Tickets Monday
Dec. 21
at Cincinnati BengalsPaul Brown Stadium, Cincinnati, OH 8:15pm ETESPN Buy Tickets Sunday
Dec. 27
Indianapolis ColtsHeinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 1:00pm ETCBS Buy Tickets Sunday
Jan. 3
at Cleveland BrownsFirstEnergy Stadium, Cleveland, OH 1:00pm ETCBS Buy Tickets Go ahead and make a prediction on these games and what their record will be. (My guess is that they could be like 4-5 before they play the Browns in their 10th game.
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They would/should then be completely ashamed of you. This board is ashamed of you. I am ashamed of you. And your grandpa may have died in Korea....but you still have no clue what a communist really is. For you it is just something to call a person you disagree with.
You're not only dumb.. You are a typical liberal dick.. I ashamed that you support baby killing.. Riots.. Looters... Destruction and hate... And the defacing of our nations history... Enjoy your socialist , Dystopian life if the dems get in... You deserve it for being a blind , brainwashed sheep!
You're not only dumb.. You are a typical liberal dick.. I ashamed that you support baby killing.. Riots.. Looters... Destruction and hate... And the defacing of our nations history... Enjoy your socialist , Dystopian life if the dems get in... You deserve it for being a blind , brainwashed sheep!
I'll leave the politics at one post... Being brainwashed is a POV Nickers.... Some would say there's none more brainwashed than the MAGAs.... Since you're into music, Tom Petty's estate told Trump to "Just back down, or we'll sue you around". For unauthorized use of that song during his rallys. The Stones have done the same with their music....
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If Roethlisberger comes back and plays at his regular level, there's no reason the Steelers couldn't be a 10 or 11 win team.
But that is not a guaranteed thing, especially at his age.
Well...there is one reason....because, as I said, because the other teams in this division have improved greatly.
The other thing perhaps working in their favor (and that of the entire AFCN)...may be the schedule. The AFCN is not playing the toughest divisions in the league. Here is their schedule:
riday
Aug. 14
Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Preseason)Heinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 7:30pm ETLocal/NFLN Buy Tickets Sunday
Aug. 23
New Orleans Saints (Preseason)Heinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 8:00pm ETFOX Buy Tickets Friday
Aug. 28
at New York Jets (Preseason)MetLife Stadium, East Rutherford, NJ 7:30pm ETLocal/NFLN Buy Tickets Thursday
Sep. 3
at Carolina Panthers (Preseason)Bank of America Stadium, Charlotte, NC 7:30pm ETLocal/NFLN Buy Tickets Monday
Sep. 14
at New York GiantsMetLife Stadium, East Rutherford, NJ 7:15pm ETESPN Buy Tickets Sunday
Sep. 20
Denver BroncosHeinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 1:00pm ETCBS Buy Tickets Sunday
Sep. 27
Houston TexansHeinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 1:00pm ETCBS Buy Tickets Sunday
Oct. 4
at Tennessee TitansNissan Stadium, Nashville, TN 1:00pm ETCBS Buy Tickets Sunday
Oct. 11
Philadelphia EaglesHeinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 1:00pm ETFOX Buy Tickets Sunday
Oct. 18
Cleveland BrownsHeinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 1:00pm ETCBS Buy Tickets Sunday
Oct. 25
at Baltimore RavensM&T Bank Stadium, Baltimore, MD 1:00pm ETCBS Buy Tickets Sunday
Nov. 1BYE Sunday
Nov. 8
at Dallas CowboysAT&T Stadium, Arlington, TX 4:25pm ETCBS Buy Tickets Sunday
Nov. 15
Cincinnati BengalsHeinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 1:00pm ETFOX Buy Tickets Sunday
Nov. 22
at Jacksonville JaguarsTIAA Bank Field, Jacksonville, FL 1:00pm ETCBS Buy Tickets Thursday
Nov. 26
Baltimore RavensHeinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 8:20pm ETNBC Buy Tickets Sunday
Dec. 6
Washington RedskinsHeinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 1:00pm ETFOX Buy Tickets Sunday
Dec. 13
at Buffalo BillsNew Era Field, Orchard Park, NY 8:20pm ETNBC Buy Tickets Monday
Dec. 21
at Cincinnati BengalsPaul Brown Stadium, Cincinnati, OH 8:15pm ETESPN Buy Tickets Sunday
Dec. 27
Indianapolis ColtsHeinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 1:00pm ETCBS Buy Tickets Sunday
Jan. 3
at Cleveland BrownsFirstEnergy Stadium, Cleveland, OH 1:00pm ETCBS Buy Tickets Go ahead and make a prediction on these games and what their record will be. (My guess is that they could be like 4-5 before they play the Browns in their 10th game.
Well...there is one reason....because, as I said, because the other teams in this division have improved greatly.
The other thing perhaps working in their favor (and that of the entire AFCN)...may be the schedule. The AFCN is not playing the toughest divisions in the league. Here is their schedule:
riday
Aug. 14
Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Preseason)Heinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 7:30pm ETLocal/NFLN Buy Tickets Sunday
Aug. 23
New Orleans Saints (Preseason)Heinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 8:00pm ETFOX Buy Tickets Friday
Aug. 28
at New York Jets (Preseason)MetLife Stadium, East Rutherford, NJ 7:30pm ETLocal/NFLN Buy Tickets Thursday
Sep. 3
at Carolina Panthers (Preseason)Bank of America Stadium, Charlotte, NC 7:30pm ETLocal/NFLN Buy Tickets Monday
Sep. 14
at New York GiantsMetLife Stadium, East Rutherford, NJ 7:15pm ETESPN Buy Tickets Sunday
Sep. 20
Denver BroncosHeinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 1:00pm ETCBS Buy Tickets Sunday
Sep. 27
Houston TexansHeinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 1:00pm ETCBS Buy Tickets Sunday
Oct. 4
at Tennessee TitansNissan Stadium, Nashville, TN 1:00pm ETCBS Buy Tickets Sunday
Oct. 11
Philadelphia EaglesHeinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 1:00pm ETFOX Buy Tickets Sunday
Oct. 18
Cleveland BrownsHeinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 1:00pm ETCBS Buy Tickets Sunday
Oct. 25
at Baltimore RavensM&T Bank Stadium, Baltimore, MD 1:00pm ETCBS Buy Tickets Sunday
Nov. 1BYE Sunday
Nov. 8
at Dallas CowboysAT&T Stadium, Arlington, TX 4:25pm ETCBS Buy Tickets Sunday
Nov. 15
Cincinnati BengalsHeinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 1:00pm ETFOX Buy Tickets Sunday
Nov. 22
at Jacksonville JaguarsTIAA Bank Field, Jacksonville, FL 1:00pm ETCBS Buy Tickets Thursday
Nov. 26
Baltimore RavensHeinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 8:20pm ETNBC Buy Tickets Sunday
Dec. 6
Washington RedskinsHeinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 1:00pm ETFOX Buy Tickets Sunday
Dec. 13
at Buffalo BillsNew Era Field, Orchard Park, NY 8:20pm ETNBC Buy Tickets Monday
Dec. 21
at Cincinnati BengalsPaul Brown Stadium, Cincinnati, OH 8:15pm ETESPN Buy Tickets Sunday
Dec. 27
Indianapolis ColtsHeinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 1:00pm ETCBS Buy Tickets Sunday
Jan. 3
at Cleveland BrownsFirstEnergy Stadium, Cleveland, OH 1:00pm ETCBS Buy Tickets Go ahead and make a prediction on these games and what their record will be. (My guess is that they could be like 4-5 before they play the Browns in their 10th game.
For shame Gipper- there's 4 preseason games that don't mean diddly. There well may not even be 4 preseason games... I'm going to say either 2-3 or 3-2 in games that actually count...
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You're not only dumb.. You are a typical liberal dick.. I ashamed that you support baby killing.. Riots.. Looters... Destruction and hate... And the defacing of our nations history... Enjoy your socialist , Dystopian life if the dems get in... You deserve it for being a blind , brainwashed sheep!
I'll leave the politics at one post... Being brainwashed is a POV Nickers.... Some would say there's none more brainwashed than the MAGAs.... Since you're into music, Tom Petty's estate told Trump to "Just back down, or we'll sue you around". For unauthorized use of that song during his rallys. The Stones have done the same with their music....
I'll leave the politics at one post... Being brainwashed is a POV Nickers.... Some would say there's none more brainwashed than the MAGAs.... Since you're into music, Tom Petty's estate told Trump to "Just back down, or we'll sue you around". For unauthorized use of that song during his rallys. The Stones have done the same with their music....
Chrissie Hynde did the same with My City is Gone....about....Akron, Ohio to Rush Limbaugh. However, from what I understand, the producers of that show wanted so much to keep that song as their signature song, they they offered to pay a lot of money to do so, which money, I understand, was immediately donated to "liberal causes" that Limbaugh would hate. So, maybe Petty's estate and the Stones should do the same....ask for a huge payday to use those songs, and then donate the money to the Biden campaign. That would be fresh.
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Well...there is one reason....because, as I said, because the other teams in this division have improved greatly.
The other thing perhaps working in their favor (and that of the entire AFCN)...may be the schedule. The AFCN is not playing the toughest divisions in the league. Here is their schedule:
riday
Aug. 14
Tampa Bay Buccaneers (Preseason)Heinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 7:30pm ETLocal/NFLN Buy Tickets Sunday
Aug. 23
New Orleans Saints (Preseason)Heinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 8:00pm ETFOX Buy Tickets Friday
Aug. 28
at New York Jets (Preseason)MetLife Stadium, East Rutherford, NJ 7:30pm ETLocal/NFLN Buy Tickets Thursday
Sep. 3
at Carolina Panthers (Preseason)Bank of America Stadium, Charlotte, NC 7:30pm ETLocal/NFLN Buy Tickets Monday
Sep. 14
at New York GiantsMetLife Stadium, East Rutherford, NJ 7:15pm ETESPN Buy Tickets Sunday
Sep. 20
Denver BroncosHeinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 1:00pm ETCBS Buy Tickets Sunday
Sep. 27
Houston TexansHeinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 1:00pm ETCBS Buy Tickets Sunday
Oct. 4
at Tennessee TitansNissan Stadium, Nashville, TN 1:00pm ETCBS Buy Tickets Sunday
Oct. 11
Philadelphia EaglesHeinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 1:00pm ETFOX Buy Tickets Sunday
Oct. 18
Cleveland BrownsHeinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 1:00pm ETCBS Buy Tickets Sunday
Oct. 25
at Baltimore RavensM&T Bank Stadium, Baltimore, MD 1:00pm ETCBS Buy Tickets Sunday
Nov. 1BYE Sunday
Nov. 8
at Dallas CowboysAT&T Stadium, Arlington, TX 4:25pm ETCBS Buy Tickets Sunday
Nov. 15
Cincinnati BengalsHeinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 1:00pm ETFOX Buy Tickets Sunday
Nov. 22
at Jacksonville JaguarsTIAA Bank Field, Jacksonville, FL 1:00pm ETCBS Buy Tickets Thursday
Nov. 26
Baltimore RavensHeinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 8:20pm ETNBC Buy Tickets Sunday
Dec. 6
Washington RedskinsHeinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 1:00pm ETFOX Buy Tickets Sunday
Dec. 13
at Buffalo BillsNew Era Field, Orchard Park, NY 8:20pm ETNBC Buy Tickets Monday
Dec. 21
at Cincinnati BengalsPaul Brown Stadium, Cincinnati, OH 8:15pm ETESPN Buy Tickets Sunday
Dec. 27
Indianapolis ColtsHeinz Field, Pittsburgh, PA 1:00pm ETCBS Buy Tickets Sunday
Jan. 3
at Cleveland BrownsFirstEnergy Stadium, Cleveland, OH 1:00pm ETCBS Buy Tickets Go ahead and make a prediction on these games and what their record will be. (My guess is that they could be like 4-5 before they play the Browns in their 10th game.
For shame Gipper- there's 4 preseason games that don't mean diddly. There well may not even be 4 preseason games... I'm going to say either 2-3 or 3-2 in games that actually count...
For shame Gipper- there's 4 preseason games that don't mean diddly. There well may not even be 4 preseason games... I'm going to say either 2-3 or 3-2 in games that actually count...
Doh! you are absolutely right. I wasn't even paying attention to the fact that preseason games were included there . And I am going to agree with you on the 2-3 record.
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Here is a possible solution to the Steeler backup QB situation, since they didn't sign Newton:
Sign Colin Kaepernick
Put your Rooney Rule where your mouth is.
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Gipper you are making it really hard for me to be nice. ?
Mark barron was not good, ever for the steelers. Edmunds may drop down into the box more and we have guys in the wings that I won't even mention because you will poo poo it. Big red was good on special teams but we brought in someone better in derrick watt. I only mentioned Nelson because you mentioned the loss of artie burns who had 1 relevant season for the steelers but you listed it as a loss.
You keep mentioning dusty Springfield but you better be hoping big ben doesn't bounce back. It's always your m.o tho. I feel like you take zero of what anyone says into account the majority of the time and just insert your opinion as fact. The only reason the steelers werent a 10+ win team last year is qb play. As ice cube mentioned we get tuitt back who literally could not be blocked last year before injury.
Vanett was a depth signing, Ebron is world's better. The Steelers didn't need to add anyone to make a deep run. Ben is back, players are healthy.
Gipper you are making it really hard for me to be nice. ?
Mark barron was not good, ever for the steelers. Edmunds may drop down into the box more and we have guys in the wings that I won't even mention because you will poo poo it. Big red was good on special teams but we brought in someone better in derrick watt. I only mentioned Nelson because you mentioned the loss of artie burns who had 1 relevant season for the steelers but you listed it as a loss.
You keep mentioning dusty Springfield but you better be hoping big ben doesn't bounce back. It's always your m.o tho. I feel like you take zero of what anyone says into account the majority of the time and just insert your opinion as fact. The only reason the steelers werent a 10+ win team last year is qb play. As ice cube mentioned we get tuitt back who literally could not be blocked last year before injury.
Vanett was a depth signing, Ebron is world's better. The Steelers didn't need to add anyone to make a deep run. Ben is back, players are healthy.
Not only were they down to a 4th string QB last year, but their skill players units were decimated as well. If Ben is back, the only legit loss is Hargrave. But at this point, and all the craziness going on, it's a total guess on where they will be if we do have a season. Only safe bet is that Balt. will still be the lead dog in the north. I've never seen a 14-2 team add so much talent. It blows my mind.
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Gipper you are making it really hard for me to be nice. ?
Mark barron was not good, ever for the steelers. Edmunds may drop down into the box more and we have guys in the wings that I won't even mention because you will poo poo it. Big red was good on special teams but we brought in someone better in derrick watt. I only mentioned Nelson because you mentioned the loss of artie burns who had 1 relevant season for the steelers but you listed it as a loss.
You keep mentioning dusty Springfield but you better be hoping big ben doesn't bounce back. It's always your m.o tho. I feel like you take zero of what anyone says into account the majority of the time and just insert your opinion as fact. The only reason the steelers werent a 10+ win team last year is qb play. As ice cube mentioned we get tuitt back who literally could not be blocked last year before injury.
Vanett was a depth signing, Ebron is world's better. The Steelers didn't need to add anyone to make a deep run. Ben is back, players are healthy.
Not only were they down to a 4th string QB last year, but their skill players units were decimated as well. If Ben is back, the only legit loss is Hargrave. But at this point, and all the craziness going on, it's a total guess on where they will be if we do have a season. Only safe bet is that Balt. will still be the lead dog in the north. I've never seen a 14-2 team add so much talent. It blows my mind.
Not only were they down to a 4th string QB last year, but their skill players units were decimated as well. If Ben is back, the only legit loss is Hargrave. But at this point, and all the craziness going on, it's a total guess on where they will be if we do have a season. Only safe bet is that Balt. will still be the lead dog in the north. I've never seen a 14-2 team add so much talent. It blows my mind.
Well....it may be a safe bet that Crabburg will take the division....but by no means would I say it is a sure bet.
And, as I said....they..the Steelers that is, lost a main cog on their defense....so they have upgraded nowhere else (except probably with Ebron). It ALL depends on BR being his 10 year ago self.
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Not only were they down to a 4th string QB last year, but their skill players units were decimated as well. If Ben is back, the only legit loss is Hargrave. But at this point, and all the craziness going on, it's a total guess on where they will be if we do have a season. Only safe bet is that Balt. will still be the lead dog in the north. I've never seen a 14-2 team add so much talent. It blows my mind.
Well....it may be a safe bet that Crabburg will take the division....but by no means would I say it is a sure bet.
And, as I said....they..the Steelers that is, lost a main cog on their defense....so they have upgraded nowhere else (except probably with Ebron). It ALL depends on BR being his 10 year ago self.
Well....it may be a safe bet that Crabburg will take the division....but by no means would I say it is a sure bet.
And, as I said....they..the Steelers that is, lost a main cog on their defense....so they have upgraded nowhere else (except probably with Ebron). It ALL depends on BR being his 10 year ago self.
Gipper we let Hargrave go because they like wormley. Our nose tackle is bookended by Heyward and Tuitt and Contrary to your imo suspect assessment (which is really no assessment at all) of Tuitt he was on a defensive player of the year pace before getting hurt. I won't be surprised in the least if our defense is the best in the league this season. (If they play and we don't get killed with injuries)
You are also once again reaaaaallllllllly sleeping on the steeler offense. You keep mentioning talent added but there are only so many spots on the field and outside of the continued growth of Edmunds at SS there aren't many if any roster question marks in Pittsburgh. Ben is the wild card. Minkah Fitzpatrick has the tools to be a generational fs too. He was obviously our first rounder this past draft we just got him early but for whatever reason you ignore that as talent added because he played last year (at a really high level)
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Here is a possible solution to the Steeler backup QB situation, since they didn't sign Newton:
Sign Colin Kaepernick
Put your Rooney Rule where your mouth is.
Here is a possible solution to the Steeler backup QB situation, since they didn't sign Newton:
Sign Colin Kaepernick
Put your Rooney Rule where your mouth is.
I'd be a-okay if they signed kaep. I just don't know what he still has on the field. His situation is also really unique and I believe he's said he won't play for vet min. If he said he would he probably would be signed already, at least on a trial basis. The Steelers like Rudolph. I'm not sold on the guy but I haven't given up on him either.
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Well....it may be a safe bet that Crabburg will take the division....but by no means would I say it is a sure bet.
And, as I said....they..the Steelers that is, lost a main cog on their defense....so they have upgraded nowhere else (except probably with Ebron). It ALL depends on BR being his 10 year ago self.
Gipper we let Hargrave go because they like wormley. Our nose tackle is bookended by Heyward and Tuitt and Contrary to your imo suspect assessment (which is really no assessment at all) of Tuitt he was on a defensive player of the year pace before getting hurt. I won't be surprised in the least if our defense is the best in the league this season. (If they play and we don't get killed with injuries)
You are also once again reaaaaallllllllly sleeping on the steeler offense. You keep mentioning talent added but there are only so many spots on the field and outside of the continued growth of Edmunds at SS there aren't many if any roster question marks in Pittsburgh. Ben is the wild card. Minkah Fitzpatrick has the tools to be a generational fs too. He was obviously our first rounder this past draft we just got him early but for whatever reason you ignore that as talent added because he played last year (at a really high level)
Gipper we let Hargrave go because they like wormley. Our nose tackle is bookended by Heyward and Tuitt and Contrary to your imo suspect assessment (which is really no assessment at all) of Tuitt he was on a defensive player of the year pace before getting hurt. I won't be surprised in the least if our defense is the best in the league this season. (If they play and we don't get killed with injuries)
Tuitt played 6 games. Had 3.5 sacks. Again, about the same pace as his other 5 Non Pro Bowl years. A good player. You ALWAYS have an overblown opinion of Steeler players.
You are also once again reaaaaallllllllly sleeping on the steeler offense.
No, I am wide awake about the Steeler offense. EVERYTHING depends on the return of BR to form. Browns have two RBs better than any the Steelers have. Browns have 2 WRs better than anything the Steelers have. Browns have two TEs better than anything the Steelers have. Browns and Steelers OLs are now about on par. You can also look at the Ravens set of skill players that are better than Pittsburghs. I know that you were not asking for a comparison....but I am giving it to you....just to show that the Steelers offense is not all that and a bag of chips in comparison.
You keep mentioning talent added but there are only so many spots on the field and outside of the continued growth of Edmunds at SS there aren't many if any roster question marks in Pittsburgh.
Well, sure, OK, you have your roster spots set. Just because the spots are se does not mean that It is overall as good of a roster as the rest of the AFCN.
Ben is the wild card.
He is more than that....He is the Ace, King, Queen, Jack when it comes to any potential ability for the Steelers to compete for a playoff spot.
Minkah Fitzpatrick has the tools to be a generational fs too
He is very good. Who said otherwise?
. He was obviously our first rounder this past draft we just got him early but for whatever reason you ignore that as talent added because he played last year (at a really high level)
Again, so what? He was still on your team last year. You cannot tout a guy that was fully on your team last year and point that as an upgrade. It is NOT talent added over what you had last year. He is a guy that fully contributed. I get that one can say "we got so and so" back who was out for injury, like Tuitt. I can give you that. But then....the Browns had Vernon out most of the year, Ward out for stretches, and, of course, Garrett missed 6 games. And unlike Tuitt....these are guys that HAVE made a Pro Bowl...all in the year before their injuries (suspension)
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Here is a possible solution to the Steeler backup QB situation, since they didn't sign Newton:
Sign Colin Kaepernick
Put your Rooney Rule where your mouth is.
I'd be a-okay if they signed kaep. I just don't know what he still has on the field. His situation is also really unique and I believe he's said he won't play for vet min. If he said he would he probably would be signed already, at least on a trial basis. The Steelers like Rudolph. I'm not sold on the guy but I haven't given up on him either.
The Steelers like Rudolph. I'm not sold on the guy but I haven't given up on him either.
what's your thoughts on your OL after Munchak was released? and why the hell was he released? with Ben, I see 24 total sacks in 2018..Than, Ben counted for 2 sacks in 2019, but i see a increase to 32 sacks total in 2019..
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The Steelers like Rudolph. I'm not sold on the guy but I haven't given up on him either.
what's your thoughts on your OL after Munchak was released? and why the hell was he released? with Ben, I see 24 total sacks in 2018..Than, Ben counted for 2 sacks in 2019, but i see a increase to 32 sacks total in 2019..
what's your thoughts on your OL after Munchak was released? and why the hell was he released? with Ben, I see 24 total sacks in 2018..Than, Ben counted for 2 sacks in 2019, but i see a increase to 32 sacks total in 2019..
Munchak may have been the best OL coach in the league. But, to be fair to Pittsburgh, Munchak was not "released" by them. His contract was up, and he was essentially a free agent and could sign a contract with anyone. He chose not to stay in Pisstown, going to Denver instead. Why? Money maybe? He says it was "family". Here is a article quote:
Mike Munchak thought coaching the Steelers offensive line would be the place to finish out his life’s work until he retired.
And then came the chance to be with his family again in the same city, Denver, an opportunity he could not pass up.
“As my career shows, when I get somewhere, I stay there,’’ Munchak said during an interview with the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette Tuesday afternoon. “When this opportunity came up to work in a city with my daughter, her husband, my granddaughter and my other daughter not far away in L.A., that’s what we wanted.
“I’m not 30 or 40 years old anymore. I’m 58 and different things become important as you age.”
So, I guess you take him at his word. I had actually hoped the Browns would look at him for HC before the hired Ferd.
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Not only were they down to a 4th string QB last year, but their skill players units were decimated as well. If Ben is back, the only legit loss is Hargrave. But at this point, and all the craziness going on, it's a total guess on where they will be if we do have a season. Only safe bet is that Balt. will still be the lead dog in the north. I've never seen a 14-2 team add so much talent. It blows my mind.
Well....it may be a safe bet that Crabburg will take the division....but by no means would I say it is a sure bet.
And, as I said....they..the Steelers that is, lost a main cog on their defense....so they have upgraded nowhere else (except probably with Ebron). It ALL depends on BR being his 10 year ago self.
Well....it may be a safe bet that Crabburg will take the division....but by no means would I say it is a sure bet.
And, as I said....they..the Steelers that is, lost a main cog on their defense....so they have upgraded nowhere else (except probably with Ebron). It ALL depends on BR being his 10 year ago self.
Hmmm, I think I see what Vag was talking about: You seem to make up stuff as you go.
Upgraded nowhere?
- Will begin the season with a Hall of Fame QB instead of an undrafted, 4th string rookie. No upgrade there.
- Will have Conner and McFarland as upgrades to RB. Snell in 2nd year. (Incase you forgot, McFarland destroyed OSU's D while at MD). Now the Steelers have that guy.
- Will have JuJu and Claypool (6-6, 240, 4.42 speed) at WR. Johnson no longer a rookie, Washington came on strong with no QB last year.
- Will have upgrade at LG, no matter who is the starter.
- Upgrade at TE in Ebron.
- Upgrade DE in Tuitt.
- Upgrade at ILB as Bush in his 2nd year, will be dominant.
Even if Ben goes down, Mason in 3rd year will be upgrade over the QBs of last year. If you want to "whistle past the graveyard," cool.
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