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    TopDawg31T TopDawg31 wrote on last edited by
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    Browns don't need that headache. We are good at S, If he were a LB? well that could be a different story.

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      Browns don't need that headache. We are good at S, If he were a LB? well that could be a different story.

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      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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      @topdawg31 said:

      Browns don't need that headache. We are good at S, If he were a LB? well that could be a different story.

      The fuck....have you been paying attention?  Our starting  SS just basically went down for the season, and the backup was a street UDFA no one has ever heard of.   And how is it that Thomas, who was considered a great team leader in Seattle, all of a sudden a team cancer in Baltimore? 

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        @tiamat63 said:

        Been a fan of Earl's game since he was at Texas.   But if an entire teams leadership doesn't want you.     Well.....

        edit:  Ravens released him which I believe means they ate a good deal of $ for it.    Makes me even more skeptical.

        left on his contract was 10M/11M than 12M.... this years cap hit?15M? ouch!

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        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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        @gumby73 said:

        left on his contract was 10M/11M than 12M.... this years cap hit?15M? ouch!

        If he was released however, would the Browns....or any team that picks him up also have to pick up that salary?  My understanding was not. 

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          @topdawg31 said:

          Browns don't need that headache. We are good at S, If he were a LB? well that could be a different story.

          The fuck....have you been paying attention?  Our starting  SS just basically went down for the season, and the backup was a street UDFA no one has ever heard of.   And how is it that Thomas, who was considered a great team leader in Seattle, all of a sudden a team cancer in Baltimore? 

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          tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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          @the-gipper said:

          Our starting  SS just basically went down for the season

          Did I miss something?

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            @the-gipper said:

            Our starting  SS just basically went down for the season

            Did I miss something?

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            Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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            @tiamat63 said:

            Did I miss something?

            Who does he think is this team's strong safety? 

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              @tiamat63 said:

              Did I miss something?

              Who does he think is this team's strong safety? 

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              tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by tiamat63
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              @dutch-oven said:

              Who does he think is this team's strong safety? 

              Forgot, gifs eat up bandwith.

              In short... not a clue in hell.  

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                S SdBacker80 wrote on last edited by SdBacker80
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                Was used more as an In The box safety by the Ravens and had a poor rating according to PFF in Run Defense department.  No thanks.

                More bark than bite these days.  And my favorite play of 2019 Chubb gliding by him on that 88 yard TD run is still on my mind too. 

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                  @gumby73 said:

                  left on his contract was 10M/11M than 12M.... this years cap hit?15M? ouch!

                  If he was released however, would the Browns....or any team that picks him up also have to pick up that salary?  My understanding was not. 

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                  @the-gipper said:

                  If he was released however, would the Browns....or any team that picks him up also have to pick up that salary?  My understanding was not. 

                  No, if released, a new team would not have to pick up any of his past deal. Nothing. And they have released him. But it sounds like there is more to the story than one incident; it's sounding like he's had a meltdown and no one likes him on the Ravens. 

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                    Was used more as an In The box safety by the Ravens and had a poor rating according to PFF in Run Defense department.  No thanks.

                    More bark than bite these days.  And my favorite play of 2019 Chubb gliding by him on that 88 yard TD run is still on my mind too. 

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                    tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by tiamat63
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                    @sdbacker80 said:

                    Was used more as an In The box safety by the Ravens and had a poor rating according to PFF in Run Defense department.  No thanks.

                    To be expected.  He's a middle fielder who has always been just a touch undersized.    He still isn't a complete liability, but he doesn't have the physical dimensions of somebody like Harrison Smith.

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                      htownbrownH htownbrown wrote on last edited by
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                      I'm just happy to have him out of the division.  ✌️

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                        @tiamat63 said:

                        Did I miss something?

                        Who does he think is this team's strong safety? 

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                        The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
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                        @dutch-oven said:

                        Who does he think is this team's strong safety? 

                        Kevin Johnson, list on depth chart as starting SS.    Lacerated liver?  

                        Except....well....Fuck Me.    I am confusing him  with Karl Joseph. 

                        KJ 1   Karl Joseph SS  KJ 2 Kevin Johnson   CB     One KJ looks like all the others

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                          @dutch-oven said:

                          Who does he think is this team's strong safety? 

                          Kevin Johnson, list on depth chart as starting SS.    Lacerated liver?  

                          Except....well....Fuck Me.    I am confusing him  with Karl Joseph. 

                          KJ 1   Karl Joseph SS  KJ 2 Kevin Johnson   CB     One KJ looks like all the others

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                          Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven wrote on last edited by
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                          @the-gipper said:

                          Kevin Johnson, list on depth chart as starting SS.    Lacerated liver?  

                          Except....well....Fuck Me.    I am confusing him  with Karl Joseph. 

                          KJ 1   Karl Joseph SS  KJ 2 Kevin Johnson   CB     One KJ looks like all the others

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                          Oh ok, I was wondering who you were talking about. 

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                            WarriorsRpussiesW WarriorsRpussies wrote on last edited by
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                            Nope got waived.

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                              D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by D Bone
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                              Dude would have a serious chip on his shoulder for a team the browns need to beat twice, and at a position of need.......

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                                KJ was on track to be the 3rd/slot corner.. Thomas wouldn't be the worst guy to sign on a prove-it deal, plus if a division rival is paying his salary so much the better.

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                                  @topdawg31 said:

                                  Browns don't need that headache. We are good at S, If he were a LB? well that could be a different story.

                                  The fuck....have you been paying attention?  Our starting  SS just basically went down for the season, and the backup was a street UDFA no one has ever heard of.   And how is it that Thomas, who was considered a great team leader in Seattle, all of a sudden a team cancer in Baltimore? 

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                                  @the-gipper said:

                                  The fuck....have you been paying attention?  Our starting  SS just basically went down for the season, and the backup was a street UDFA no one has ever heard of.   And how is it that Thomas, who was considered a great team leader in Seattle, all of a sudden a team cancer in Baltimore? 

                                   

                                  I don't know "how" but apparently it happened. Reading Raven boards, it appears the coaches, the front office AND the players all wanted him gone. He seems like an angry, red-headed step child, at this point. He must have really been in a dick mode to have everyone against him. 

                                  https://forum.russellstreetreport.com/showthread.php?198099-Should-the-Ravens-cut-trade-Earl-Thomas-and-resign-Tony-Jefferson/page39

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                                    @the-gipper said:

                                    The fuck....have you been paying attention?  Our starting  SS just basically went down for the season, and the backup was a street UDFA no one has ever heard of.   And how is it that Thomas, who was considered a great team leader in Seattle, all of a sudden a team cancer in Baltimore? 

                                     

                                    I don't know "how" but apparently it happened. Reading Raven boards, it appears the coaches, the front office AND the players all wanted him gone. He seems like an angry, red-headed step child, at this point. He must have really been in a dick mode to have everyone against him. 

                                    https://forum.russellstreetreport.com/showthread.php?198099-Should-the-Ravens-cut-trade-Earl-Thomas-and-resign-Tony-Jefferson/page39

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                                    @icecube said:

                                    He must have really been in a dick

                                    Yeah, something smells rotten with him.

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                                      KJ was on track to be the 3rd/slot corner.. Thomas wouldn't be the worst guy to sign on a prove-it deal, plus if a division rival is paying his salary so much the better.

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                                      gumby73G gumby73 wrote on last edited by
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                                      @unsympathetic said:

                                      KJ was on track to be the 3rd/slot corner.. 

                                      3rd? Terrance Mitchell slot 1.... than whom?

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                                        @unsympathetic said:

                                        KJ was on track to be the 3rd/slot corner.. 

                                        3rd? Terrance Mitchell slot 1.... than whom?

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                                        tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by tiamat63
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                                        @gumby73 said:

                                        3rd? Terrance Mitchell slot 1.... than whom?

                                        @unsympathetic said:

                                        KJ was on track to be the 3rd/slot corner.. Thomas wouldn't be the worst guy to sign on a prove-it deal, plus if a division rival is paying his salary so much the better.

                                        I think you guys are presuming that the depth chart for the CB's will be something more of a "traditional" role.  It won't, and those days are quickly diminishing.  It'll be skill set vs skill set now.      So for example on our schedule - Denzel will mostly draw Hollywood Brown in coverage game 1.    Ward just has the better foot speed and matches up better across the formation.   4 days later against the Bengals, you'll probably see Greedy and Mitchell on Green and Higgins (not to Tyler Boyd) out on the perimeter with Ward shadowing Ross or Tate.   Unless Boyd ends up getting matched in the middle.   

                                        The strength of our CB's is lead by ward, but I'm not putting a 5'10 corner on a 6'4 AJ Green and Joe Woods will tend to avoid that as well.   I'll leave that to 6'1 Greedy or 5'11 (and change) Terrance Mitchell.        Don't forget, his best corner when he left Denver was Chris Harris who mostly drew skilled interior receivers.    

                                        Point being, we have some varying physical skill sets that, if developed and deployed properly, give us quality responses to a range of different receiver corps we'll face this year.     Will Greedy and Ward be the 1st 2 on the field?  95% of the time yes.   Who they'll be matching up with though might be another matter entirely.     Don't forget how Gregg Williams went against ATL at home a couple years ago and how those assignments went.

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                                          @gumby73 said:

                                          3rd? Terrance Mitchell slot 1.... than whom?

                                          @unsympathetic said:

                                          KJ was on track to be the 3rd/slot corner.. Thomas wouldn't be the worst guy to sign on a prove-it deal, plus if a division rival is paying his salary so much the better.

                                          I think you guys are presuming that the depth chart for the CB's will be something more of a "traditional" role.  It won't, and those days are quickly diminishing.  It'll be skill set vs skill set now.      So for example on our schedule - Denzel will mostly draw Hollywood Brown in coverage game 1.    Ward just has the better foot speed and matches up better across the formation.   4 days later against the Bengals, you'll probably see Greedy and Mitchell on Green and Higgins (not to Tyler Boyd) out on the perimeter with Ward shadowing Ross or Tate.   Unless Boyd ends up getting matched in the middle.   

                                          The strength of our CB's is lead by ward, but I'm not putting a 5'10 corner on a 6'4 AJ Green and Joe Woods will tend to avoid that as well.   I'll leave that to 6'1 Greedy or 5'11 (and change) Terrance Mitchell.        Don't forget, his best corner when he left Denver was Chris Harris who mostly drew skilled interior receivers.    

                                          Point being, we have some varying physical skill sets that, if developed and deployed properly, give us quality responses to a range of different receiver corps we'll face this year.     Will Greedy and Ward be the 1st 2 on the field?  95% of the time yes.   Who they'll be matching up with though might be another matter entirely.     Don't forget how Gregg Williams went against ATL at home a couple years ago and how those assignments went.

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                                          @tiamat63 said:

                                          I think you guys are presuming that the depth chart for the CB's will be something more of a "traditional" role.  It won't, and those days are quickly diminishing.  It'll be skill set vs skill set now.      So for example on our schedule - Denzel will mostly draw Hollywood Brown in coverage game 1.    Ward just has the better foot speed and matches up better across the formation.   4 days later against the Bengals, you'll probably see Greedy and Mitchell on Green and Higgins (not to Tyler Boyd) out on the perimeter with Ward shadowing Ross or Tate.   Unless Boyd ends up getting matched in the middle.   

                                          The strength of our CB's is lead by ward, but I'm not putting a 5'10 corner on a 6'4 AJ Green and Joe Woods will tend to avoid that as well.   I'll leave that to 6'1 Greedy or 5'11 (and change) Terrance Mitchell.        Don't forget, his best corner when he left Denver was Chris Harris who mostly drew skilled interior receivers.    

                                          Point being, we have some varying physical skill sets that, if developed and deployed properly, give us quality responses to a range of different receiver corps we'll face this year.     Will Greedy and Ward be the 1st 2 on the field?  95% of the time yes.   Who they'll be matching up with though might be another matter entirely.     Don't forget how Gregg Williams went against ATL at home a couple years ago and how those assignments went.

                                          Greedy and Ward have to play better. If they are just "solid" (not necessarily top 10, although Ward should be) the D could be pretty good. Still worried about LBs though. 

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