Ravens release Earl Thomas
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Was used more as an In The box safety by the Ravens and had a poor rating according to PFF in Run Defense department. No thanks.
More bark than bite these days. And my favorite play of 2019 Chubb gliding by him on that 88 yard TD run is still on my mind too.
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If he was released however, would the Browns....or any team that picks him up also have to pick up that salary? My understanding was not.
No, if released, a new team would not have to pick up any of his past deal. Nothing. And they have released him. But it sounds like there is more to the story than one incident; it's sounding like he's had a meltdown and no one likes him on the Ravens.
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Was used more as an In The box safety by the Ravens and had a poor rating according to PFF in Run Defense department. No thanks.
More bark than bite these days. And my favorite play of 2019 Chubb gliding by him on that 88 yard TD run is still on my mind too.
Was used more as an In The box safety by the Ravens and had a poor rating according to PFF in Run Defense department. No thanks.
To be expected. He's a middle fielder who has always been just a touch undersized. He still isn't a complete liability, but he doesn't have the physical dimensions of somebody like Harrison Smith.
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I'm just happy to have him out of the division.
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Who does he think is this team's strong safety?
Kevin Johnson, list on depth chart as starting SS. Lacerated liver?
Except....well....Fuck Me. I am confusing him with Karl Joseph.
KJ 1 Karl Joseph SS KJ 2 Kevin Johnson CB One KJ looks like all the others
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Who does he think is this team's strong safety?
Kevin Johnson, list on depth chart as starting SS. Lacerated liver?
Except....well....Fuck Me. I am confusing him with Karl Joseph.
KJ 1 Karl Joseph SS KJ 2 Kevin Johnson CB One KJ looks like all the others
Kevin Johnson, list on depth chart as starting SS. Lacerated liver?
Except....well....Fuck Me. I am confusing him with Karl Joseph.
KJ 1 Karl Joseph SS KJ 2 Kevin Johnson CB One KJ looks like all the others
Oh ok, I was wondering who you were talking about.
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Nope got waived.
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KJ was on track to be the 3rd/slot corner.. Thomas wouldn't be the worst guy to sign on a prove-it deal, plus if a division rival is paying his salary so much the better.
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Browns don't need that headache. We are good at S, If he were a LB? well that could be a different story.
The fuck....have you been paying attention? Our starting SS just basically went down for the season, and the backup was a street UDFA no one has ever heard of. And how is it that Thomas, who was considered a great team leader in Seattle, all of a sudden a team cancer in Baltimore?
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I don't know "how" but apparently it happened. Reading Raven boards, it appears the coaches, the front office AND the players all wanted him gone. He seems like an angry, red-headed step child, at this point. He must have really been in a dick mode to have everyone against him.
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The fuck....have you been paying attention? Our starting SS just basically went down for the season, and the backup was a street UDFA no one has ever heard of. And how is it that Thomas, who was considered a great team leader in Seattle, all of a sudden a team cancer in Baltimore?
I don't know "how" but apparently it happened. Reading Raven boards, it appears the coaches, the front office AND the players all wanted him gone. He seems like an angry, red-headed step child, at this point. He must have really been in a dick mode to have everyone against him.
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KJ was on track to be the 3rd/slot corner.. Thomas wouldn't be the worst guy to sign on a prove-it deal, plus if a division rival is paying his salary so much the better.
KJ was on track to be the 3rd/slot corner..
3rd? Terrance Mitchell slot 1.... than whom?
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KJ was on track to be the 3rd/slot corner..
3rd? Terrance Mitchell slot 1.... than whom?
3rd? Terrance Mitchell slot 1.... than whom?
KJ was on track to be the 3rd/slot corner.. Thomas wouldn't be the worst guy to sign on a prove-it deal, plus if a division rival is paying his salary so much the better.
I think you guys are presuming that the depth chart for the CB's will be something more of a "traditional" role. It won't, and those days are quickly diminishing. It'll be skill set vs skill set now. So for example on our schedule - Denzel will mostly draw Hollywood Brown in coverage game 1. Ward just has the better foot speed and matches up better across the formation. 4 days later against the Bengals, you'll probably see Greedy and Mitchell on Green and Higgins (not to Tyler Boyd) out on the perimeter with Ward shadowing Ross or Tate. Unless Boyd ends up getting matched in the middle.
The strength of our CB's is lead by ward, but I'm not putting a 5'10 corner on a 6'4 AJ Green and Joe Woods will tend to avoid that as well. I'll leave that to 6'1 Greedy or 5'11 (and change) Terrance Mitchell. Don't forget, his best corner when he left Denver was Chris Harris who mostly drew skilled interior receivers.
Point being, we have some varying physical skill sets that, if developed and deployed properly, give us quality responses to a range of different receiver corps we'll face this year. Will Greedy and Ward be the 1st 2 on the field? 95% of the time yes. Who they'll be matching up with though might be another matter entirely. Don't forget how Gregg Williams went against ATL at home a couple years ago and how those assignments went.
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3rd? Terrance Mitchell slot 1.... than whom?
KJ was on track to be the 3rd/slot corner.. Thomas wouldn't be the worst guy to sign on a prove-it deal, plus if a division rival is paying his salary so much the better.
I think you guys are presuming that the depth chart for the CB's will be something more of a "traditional" role. It won't, and those days are quickly diminishing. It'll be skill set vs skill set now. So for example on our schedule - Denzel will mostly draw Hollywood Brown in coverage game 1. Ward just has the better foot speed and matches up better across the formation. 4 days later against the Bengals, you'll probably see Greedy and Mitchell on Green and Higgins (not to Tyler Boyd) out on the perimeter with Ward shadowing Ross or Tate. Unless Boyd ends up getting matched in the middle.
The strength of our CB's is lead by ward, but I'm not putting a 5'10 corner on a 6'4 AJ Green and Joe Woods will tend to avoid that as well. I'll leave that to 6'1 Greedy or 5'11 (and change) Terrance Mitchell. Don't forget, his best corner when he left Denver was Chris Harris who mostly drew skilled interior receivers.
Point being, we have some varying physical skill sets that, if developed and deployed properly, give us quality responses to a range of different receiver corps we'll face this year. Will Greedy and Ward be the 1st 2 on the field? 95% of the time yes. Who they'll be matching up with though might be another matter entirely. Don't forget how Gregg Williams went against ATL at home a couple years ago and how those assignments went.
I think you guys are presuming that the depth chart for the CB's will be something more of a "traditional" role. It won't, and those days are quickly diminishing. It'll be skill set vs skill set now. So for example on our schedule - Denzel will mostly draw Hollywood Brown in coverage game 1. Ward just has the better foot speed and matches up better across the formation. 4 days later against the Bengals, you'll probably see Greedy and Mitchell on Green and Higgins (not to Tyler Boyd) out on the perimeter with Ward shadowing Ross or Tate. Unless Boyd ends up getting matched in the middle.
The strength of our CB's is lead by ward, but I'm not putting a 5'10 corner on a 6'4 AJ Green and Joe Woods will tend to avoid that as well. I'll leave that to 6'1 Greedy or 5'11 (and change) Terrance Mitchell. Don't forget, his best corner when he left Denver was Chris Harris who mostly drew skilled interior receivers.
Point being, we have some varying physical skill sets that, if developed and deployed properly, give us quality responses to a range of different receiver corps we'll face this year. Will Greedy and Ward be the 1st 2 on the field? 95% of the time yes. Who they'll be matching up with though might be another matter entirely. Don't forget how Gregg Williams went against ATL at home a couple years ago and how those assignments went.
Greedy and Ward have to play better. If they are just "solid" (not necessarily top 10, although Ward should be) the D could be pretty good. Still worried about LBs though.
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Dude would have a serious chip on his shoulder for a team the browns need to beat twice, and at a position of need.......
Dude would have a serious chip on his shoulder for a team the browns need to beat twice, and at a position of need.......
Yeah I say take a flyer on him. 6-8 million range with some incentive, little to NO guaranteed money. Really nothing to lose, if he sucks or is acting like a bitch, cut him. Watch the rapists sign him though.
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Dude would have a serious chip on his shoulder for a team the browns need to beat twice, and at a position of need.......
Yeah I say take a flyer on him. 6-8 million range with some incentive, little to NO guaranteed money. Really nothing to lose, if he sucks or is acting like a bitch, cut him. Watch the rapists sign him though.
Yeah I say take a flyer on him. 6-8 million range with some incentive, little to NO guaranteed money. Really nothing to lose, if he sucks or is acting like a bitch, cut him. Watch the rapists sign him though.
Their S situation is pretty set. Especially since they have young Fitz playing center field. Very much doubt they would bring in Earl and risk disrupting the chemistry they've built in their secondary.
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Yeah, something smells rotten with him.
Sure it does.. After the Hawks traded up to get Thomas in the draft..Thomas is seen flipping off Pete Carol after getting injured because the Hawks would not trade him..this after playing for Carrol for 8 seasons
Thomas goes to another good Coach in John Harbaugh...and has not himself? but the team players vote Thomas out too...
Again... at age 31... We should want no part of this coaching headcase in Cleveland with again a new coaching staff... firm pass for me...Sendego/Redwine & next man up!
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Yeah, something smells rotten with him.
Sure it does.. After the Hawks traded up to get Thomas in the draft..Thomas is seen flipping off Pete Carol after getting injured because the Hawks would not trade him..this after playing for Carrol for 8 seasons
Thomas goes to another good Coach in John Harbaugh...and has not himself? but the team players vote Thomas out too...
Again... at age 31... We should want no part of this coaching headcase in Cleveland with again a new coaching staff... firm pass for me...Sendego/Redwine & next man up!
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Yeah, something smells rotten with him.
Sure it does.. After the Hawks traded up to get Thomas in the draft..Thomas is seen flipping off Pete Carol after getting injured because the Hawks would not trade him..this after playing for Carrol for 8 seasons
Thomas goes to another good Coach in John Harbaugh...and has not himself? but the team players vote Thomas out too...
Again... at age 31... We should want no part of this coaching headcase in Cleveland with again a new coaching staff... firm pass for me...Sendego/Redwine & next man up!
Sure it does.. After the Hawks traded up to get Thomas in the draft..Thomas is seen flipping off Pete Carol after getting injured because the Hawks would not trade him..this after playing for Carrol for 8 seasons
Thomas goes to another good Coach in John Harbaugh...and has not himself? but the team players vote Thomas out too...
Again... at age 31... We should want no part of this coaching headcase in Cleveland with again a new coaching staff... firm pass for me...Sendego/Redwine & next man up!
OK, for 8 seasons he was a model citizen. Then something happened? Seems to me that it may be 2 things: Thomas realizing, after that injury, that his football life may have been coming close to reaching its mortality. Secondly....along with that comes the fact that his earning potential is diminished, and he protests (in the form of howling at the moon), over that.
I think the best he can do is to face reality: He is older and he will NOT command the kind of money that he probably thinks he should; and that if he wants to stick around, he should face he fact that he is likely going to have to sign a heavily incentive laden contract. If he is good as he thinks he is, he CAN get paid a fair amount. If not, he won't.
That is where I see the issue....and the solution, for him.
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