Anderson looking like the starter tonight
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and it involved more than just screen passes and check downs.
Well one of those we know DA struggled with against DET
It was a preseason game. DA did what Quinn did the week before. Moved the ball and made some good throws. DA got to see the zone coverage that we already knew he could exploit and did.
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I think Zombo is catching heat he shouldn't. All along he has been pretty consistent and arbitrary on the QBs. I like DA too as a person but his inconsistency is frustrating. I think where I disagree with Z is he is willing to give DA another opportunity and needs to see more from Quinn. I disagree with the former and agree with the latter. Quinn hasn't done a ton to win. I wantto see more.
Zombo is a huge Browns fan and not a fag of either QB. He takes the right approach. But I am sour on DA because he sucks you in like last night and then drops a poop log the next.
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Zombo said:
I'm glad Quinn showed us how to follow up a dropped pass in the end zone last week.
"Derek Anderson started and went 6-of-9 for 119 yards in the first quarter including completions of 39 yards to Braylon Edwards, 24 yards to Mohamed Massaquoi and 20 to Cribbs. He finished 8-of-13 for 130 yards and was intercepted by William James in the closing seconds of the first half on a pass that went off Davis' hands and led to the field goal that provided the Lions' first points."
Here is the reaction to that last pass in Camp Quinn:
Definition of straddling the fence the way Ghoolie would draft it up. Claim you're hoping Quinn wins the job and then toss grenades at Camp Quinn as if you never wanted this franchise to give him a chance.
I see you doing this and all I can think of was you coming out of the woodwork last November when Quinn averaged 30 points a start in his first 2 games. You inventoried popular opinion and found the timing just right to confidently declare DA just wasn't the answer for this franchise. That was punctuated with "Quinn is the starting QB of this franchise - period! End of arguement."
You'll have to excuse me for remembering how definitive you were. BTW, DA isn't winning lately. He's 3-6 in his last 9 starts. Here's 4 of them vrs teams that CAN win more than 8 games.
Dallas 28-10
Pittsburgh 10-6
Baltimore 28-10
Indy 10-6
If you want to pretend this Cinderella story didn't reach an early midnight in November of 2007 - go right ahead. That said, the SAME Cincy team he first lit up with 5 TD passes was there to re-deem themselves with 4 INTs in December. At some point, we're gonna have to raise our standards above the Detroit type of opponents. When we played Green Bay, DA was clearly the worst QB in uniform as his zero passer rating would reflect. That's not opinon - that's fact. I know, you already informed us you had better things to do than watch our first preseason game.
Now carry-on and get your last insults in. People that want alternatives to losing are Quinn Fags. Now there's intelligent conversation reachign the next level for ya.
- Tom F.
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Thank God, that next week will show who is going to be the starter! The wait will be over.
I seriously doubt that Mangini would split time with the starters between these 2. Whomever starts next week, will start the season.
Even sooner, whomever is practicing with the 1's this week will tell.
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Three kinds of posters on here right now:
Those who defend DA and claim to be proper (and superior) Browns fans.
Those who want to see Quinn play and claim to be proper (and superior) Browns fans.
Those who claim not to care who the QB is and just want to win...and claim to be proper (and superior) Browns fans.
I just wish everyone would just stick to their opinion and stop claiming to be a better Browns fans.
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it was against the starters rather than against the 4th string.
It also necessitated making our 4th stringers looking better than their 4th stringers right? That's how you throw mutliple TD passes in 1 game Loverboy. You do it by getting those around you to elevate their performance. Let me know HOW I can help you conceptualize this better.
You made it sound like Dumb Ass threw 5 TD passes yesterday on the team you've called Detroilet. I watched the game and saw 1 TD pass from your boyfriend. 16 consecutive regular season opponents were able to throw at least 1 TD pass on the Lions with their starters in the game. Let's not act Dumb Ass is walking on Lake Erie water just yet.
At least you've been straight up about your crush on a QB that doesn't win. He's your hometown hero so I almost understand you editing out the last 9 starts. You've never been a Browns' fan so you never had the priviledge of seeing the real thing the way Otto Graham, Brian Sipe and Bernie Kosar established the winning tradition here. I can't bring myself to embrace the cheap imitation if it can't win here with any consistency. If Brian Sipe required a 28th oncore - something tells me we wouldn't have hung onto the 13th round draft pick. In OUR history, winners haven't needed 28 oncores. They just needed more than 3 starts and decent coaching. Fate, intelligence and talent took care of the rest.
- Tom F.
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Bottom line is neither QB has thrown a TD pass yet and both have thrown too many that the other team has gotten their hands on. Is either the answer?
As good as DA can look he can also break your heart, that is a fact. He's proven he isn't the long term answer. As good as he can be in a quarter like last night, he will be just as bad in some games or quarters. So, if you want to be a .500 team, DA might be your man.
IMO Quinn manages the team better, especially under pressure. DA looks great when he has no rush on him and he gets time to drop and set up. Quinn moves better in the pocket and is a leader on the field. Will Quinn break your heart? Will he implode under pressure? Can he develop into a franchise QB? I want to get those questions answered. I already know what Anderson brings to the table.
If neither is the answer, I want to know before the next draft. The only way is to name Quinn the starter and see if he can step up and be the man.
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Zombo stop wasting your time typing. The BQ bandwagoneers are pissed about last night plain and simple and were SEARCHING HARD for anything...
I like the who 2 minute drill bs... he had about 1 minute with a 20 point lead had a tip int after throwing for over 100 yards in one quarter leading to scores.....
AVERAGE that out over terrible Detroit and he would have had a MONSTER game.... BQ I think would have had a good game also probably not as many yards but the same result.
Notice those same BQ fans dont talk about the near tip linebacker int that BQ almost threw when they mention DA.... neither was a terrible read or a forced play it was just how the ball happened to fall.
Seriously I am more concerned with the odd offensive playcalling from last week for DA was handed to BQ this week. I know it is preseason and I suspect it was situational to expose the QBs for review, but still odd. ST. Clair better be running some laps for blowing up BQ's decent drive.
ON a good note START JAMES DAVIS.... he hits the holes instead of tap dancing and STILL HAS A BURST!!!!!
Zombo stop wasting your time typing. The BQ bandwagoneers are pissed about last night plain and simple and were SEARCHING HARD for anything...
I like the who 2 minute drill bs... he had about 1 minute with a 20 point lead had a tip int after throwing for over 100 yards in one quarter leading to scores.....
AVERAGE that out over terrible Detroit and he would have had a MONSTER game.... BQ I think would have had a good game also probably not as many yards but the same result.
Notice those same BQ fans dont talk about the near tip linebacker int that BQ almost threw when they mention DA.... neither was a terrible read or a forced play it was just how the ball happened to fall.
Seriously I am more concerned with the odd offensive playcalling from last week for DA was handed to BQ this week. I know it is preseason and I suspect it was situational to expose the QBs for review, but still odd. ST. Clair better be running some laps for blowing up BQ's decent drive.
ON a good note START JAMES DAVIS.... he hits the holes instead of tap dancing and STILL HAS A BURST!!!!!
The bolded part is a very bad argument. It didn't matter how much they were up or how much time was on the clock. It was about Mangini seeing what DA could do in the 2-minute drill. He even said it after the Packer game, that the next time it came to the 2-minute drill it would be DA. Frankly, DA failed to move the ball in that drill and eventually it lead to Detroit getting points.
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Zombo said:
I will toss grenades at Camp Quinn as long as you act like Quinn fans and not Browns fans.I know your feelings are hurt because I won't join your He-Man Derek Anderson Hater's Club, but I see absolutely no need to keep bashing the guy.
If you want to build Quinn up and convince me why he is going to be the next great Cleveland Browns QB, I am all ears, I would love nothing more than to see that.
Zombo
That's just it - you posted DA wasn't the answer for this franchise after Quinn's first 2 starts averaged 30 points in November. You keep diverting attention away from this truth for some reason. Can I merely ask why Zippy? And when you had admin powers during the Spring - you removed that entire thread after I archived the first time I caught you changing your tune and straddling the fence. You seem less proud of that than you were promising us Terry Kirby would rush for 1700 yards back in 1999.
In fairness to Vegasdawg - he didn't read your confident post back when Quinn showed us how easy it was to put up 30 points in back to back weeks last Fall.
Again, for those that get it - DA's last 9 starts sport a 3-6 record. Here's 4 of them in how DA took the bull by the horns:
Dallas 28 Cleveland 10
Pittsburgh 10 Cleveland 6
Baltimore 28 Cleveland 10
Indy 10 Cleveland 6
So all of a sudden you don't think Quinn can lead us to 10 points in a 60 minute game THIS year when you gave him your blessings for leading us to 30 points a start last year? Way to make sense! Maybe someday you'll be interested enough to WATCH 1 of these games you allegedly have all the answers for. What happened to you man? I know you LOVE losing more than being a Quinn fag. Got it. Thanks!
- Tom F.
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watch the video-
got a link to the video?
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@inspecta said:
I think I know what Pitt fans love coming here to debate us, because we are the best of the best, because well....frankly we have a lot of practice on each other.Look at it this way, if the team was running like the Pats, what would we have to talk about/debate???
PATSPECTA: Randy Moss' awesome!
PUMBERGH: No he isn't, he's superawesome!
PATSPECTA: Not as awesome as Tom Brady!
PUMBERGH: I agree. Let's be friends.
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Now that's just boring.
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watch the video-
got a link to the video?
got a link to the video?
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=4416917
Anchor says DA has emerged as Browns' starting QB
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Zombo said:
So who are the "DA Fags"? Lumbergh and drunknstoopid?
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Don't lump me in with lumburgh. I've never predicted a winner of this competition, called Quinn names, or used the word fag to describe his fans. I've held that it's the coach's decision to make, and just as you have, defended DA against posters saying stuff I find rediculous.
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Zombo said:
OK ... what you're saying is that I would have more street cred if I bit Lumbergh's head off every now and then?Zombo
--I don't know if I can do that to myself ... I'm mean Skippy ... er, Rif
I don't mind saying it, kinda like Masters said to me......there is no way I could be Lumfreddy. First off, I can't stand DA enough to pull it off nor do I have the time or smarts to do it. If it's you, we need to find you a second job. I know it's not Skip, he only finds time to attach his lips to your ass and be the poor man's version of Lumquat.
Lums is real folks, I hate to tell ya. There actually is a crazy ass MFer from Oregon that is absolutely in love with a guy who is a certifiable drive killer.
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Zombo said:
OK ... what you're saying is that I would have more street cred if I bit Lumbergh's head off every now and then?Zombo
--I don't know if I can do that to myself ... I'm mean Skippy ... er, Rif
I don't mind saying it, kinda like Masters said to me......there is no way I could be Lumfreddy. First off, I can't stand DA enough to pull it off nor do I have the time or smarts to do it. If it's you, we need to find you a second job. I know it's not Skip, he only finds time to attach his lips to your ass and be the poor man's version of Lumquat.
Lums is real folks, I hate to tell ya. There actually is a crazy ass MFer from Oregon that is absolutely in love with a guy who is a certifiable drive killer.
Zombo said:
OK ... what you're saying is that I would have more street cred if I bit Lumbergh's head off every now and then?Zombo
--I don't know if I can do that to myself ... I'm mean Skippy ... er, Rif
I don't mind saying it, kinda like Masters said to me......there is no way I could be Lumfreddy. First off, I can't stand DA enough to pull it off nor do I have the time or smarts to do it. If it's you, we need to find you a second job. I know it's not Skip, he only finds time to attach his lips to your ass and be the poor man's version of Lumquat.
Lums is real folks, I hate to tell ya. There actually is a crazy ass MFer from Oregon that is absolutely in love with a guy who is a certifiable drive killer.
It appears that having your chinstrap too tight can have an affect on what you say. Look at the page views.
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Zombo was Horse Balls (?). Or was Stan? I forget...
He would have had to pull off a sacha Baron Cohenesque feat to be successfully portray that many characters.
mz. said:
Zombo was Horse Balls (?). Or was Stan? I forget...He would have had to pull off a sacha Baron Cohenesque feat to be successfully portray that many characters.
Lums is sporting right now just from us discussing him. This effer is jacking off in front of the mirror as he posts. He's got Inspecta chasing him around like he's a hybrid da ich/Gillooly on every post he has, and on top of that his lover just had a pretty damn good game yesterday.
I've actually had a few real football convos with Lumwadicus before, and I bet he ain't all that bad a dude. He can talk football when he's not busy being a complete and total jackdick on here. He said he played FB and MLB in HS, which he shared the same HS coach as Derek Bear.
Zombo pulled off Horse Balls barely posting and not even trying to hide it. There is no way anybody could pull off pretending to be that crazy Oregon bastard, it ain't possible.
Shit, Lumsy started flirting with me a little after his man got signed, it was kinda cute but I ain't like that. It was late at night.
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