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  • Wow... folks' memories 'round here are shit. I know I remember how we were instantly better under Greg when he replaced Hue.

    While I'm elated that we've ultimately landed with Stef, Greg should have been our 2019 HC. But no-o-o-o... Dorsey needed a balless HC so we got Fat Freddie Fingered.

    Gase is simply trying to forestall his own firing. He has a headset. He heard Greg call the D. He could have overruled it.

    Was it a smart call by Greg? No, but I'll bet it was only one of many calls that contributed to the loss. This ain't Little League where the kids blame Timmy for a loss because he made the last out.

    @tour2ma said:

    While I'm elated that we've ultimately landed with Stef, Greg should have been our 2019 HC. But no-o-o-o... Dorsey needed a balless HC so we got Fat Freddie Fingered.

    Actually, we interviewed Stef.  And DePodesta wanted him.  But, as it turned out, Dorsey committed professional suicide by hiring the country bumpkin instead of the smart guy.

  • Wow... folks' memories 'round here are shit. I know I remember how we were instantly better under Greg when he replaced Hue.

    While I'm elated that we've ultimately landed with Stef, Greg should have been our 2019 HC. But no-o-o-o... Dorsey needed a balless HC so we got Fat Freddie Fingered.

    Gase is simply trying to forestall his own firing. He has a headset. He heard Greg call the D. He could have overruled it.

    Was it a smart call by Greg? No, but I'll bet it was only one of many calls that contributed to the loss. This ain't Little League where the kids blame Timmy for a loss because he made the last out.

    @tour2ma said:

    Wow... folks' memories 'round here are shit. I know I remember how we were instantly better under Greg when he replaced Hue.

    While I'm elated that we've ultimately landed with Stef, Greg should have been our 2019 HC. But no-o-o-o... Dorsey needed a balless HC so we got Fat Freddie Fingered.

    Gase is simply trying to forestall his own firing. He has a headset. He heard Greg call the D. He could have overruled it.

    Was it a smart call by Greg? No, but I'll bet it was only one of many calls that contributed to the loss. This ain't Little League where the kids blame Timmy for a loss because he made the last out.

    Williams was an instant upgrade over Hue.  I agree that he should have been given the permanent head coach job in 2019.  I also agree that Stef has done a great job

  • Here you go,  ad hoc survey question: 

    Who was the worst HC we have had since 1999?    Who do you think was the worst  coordinator? 

    @the-gipper said:

    Here you go,  ad hoc survey question: 

    Who was the worst HC we have had since 1999?    Who do you think was the worst  coordinator? 

    Freddie kitchens was the worst coach. Worse even than hue jackson. He had a ton of talent and pissed it away. Hue jackson had mostly mediocre talent and pissed it away. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    Here you go,  ad hoc survey question: 

    Who was the worst HC we have had since 1999?    Who do you think was the worst  coordinator? 

    Freddie kitchens was the worst coach. Worse even than hue jackson. He had a ton of talent and pissed it away. Hue jackson had mostly mediocre talent and pissed it away. 

    @the-cysko-kid said:

    Freddie kitchens was the worst coach. Worse even than hue jackson. He had a ton of talent and pissed it away. Hue jackson had mostly mediocre talent and pissed it away. 

    Choosing between Freddie and Hue is like making a choice between being beaten or being robbed

  • @the-gipper said:

    Here you go,  ad hoc survey question: 

    Who was the worst HC we have had since 1999?    Who do you think was the worst  coordinator? 

    That Jim guy under Pettine, I think he cost Mike his job

    @londonbrown said:

    That Jim guy under Pettine, I think he cost Mike his job

    O'Neil?  Yes, I think that is a good one. 

  • Although it might have been me, I travelled to Cle when we were like 7-4 before the Texans game and we played terribly and I think lost every game for the rest of the year!

    @londonbrown said:

    Although it might have been me, I travelled to Cle when we were like 7-4 before the Texans game and we played terribly and I think lost every game for the rest of the year!

    Nope its not you.  , that is exactly what happened.

  • Adam Gase is a fucking oddball, no idea how he's in charge of a NFL team

    @londonbrown said:

    Adam Gase is a fucking oddball, no idea how he's in charge of a NFL team

    Adam Gase GIFs | Tenor

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    Freddie kitchens was the worst coach. Worse even than hue jackson. He had a ton of talent and pissed it away. Hue jackson had mostly mediocre talent and pissed it away. 

    Choosing between Freddie and Hue is like making a choice between being beaten or being robbed

    @marvin-the-martian said:

    Choosing between Freddie and Hue is like making a choice between being beaten or being robbed

    The fact that Pat Shurmur can't even make it to the Top 2 says how bad some of the coaches we had had were. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    Here you go,  ad hoc survey question: 

    Who was the worst HC we have had since 1999?    Who do you think was the worst  coordinator? 

    That Jim guy under Pettine, I think he cost Mike his job

    @londonbrown said:

    That Jim guy under Pettine, I think he cost Mike his job

    Yeah , Jim O'Brien was a dud!

  • Adam Gase is a fucking oddball, no idea how he's in charge of a NFL team

    @londonbrown said:

    Adam Gase is a fucking oddball, no idea how he's in charge of a NFL team

    He got a free pass from Peyton Manning's buddy on that deal... otherwise... He's persona Non Grata....

  • The Jets defense was dirty as hell, I still remember what they did to the Broncos' backup QB in his debut some weeks ago. I won't miss him. 

  • I normally ain't the conspiracy type, but the Jags had lost their very close game MOMENTS before this absolutely insane defensive call was made. Like, a pee-wee coach wouldn't call an all out blitz level insane. Really, really hard not to at least entertain the idea there was a "blow this game" thought process there.

  • So everyone is 100% sure that that defensive call wasn't done intentionally to lose the game, and when there was such blow-back Williams became the fall guy?

  • @londonbrown said:

    That Jim guy under Pettine, I think he cost Mike his job

    Yeah , Jim O'Brien was a dud!

    @nickers said:

    Yeah , Jim O'Brien was a dud!

    Jim O'Neil...

    Agree was in over his head as Pet's DC, but he's still in the league on Gruden's LVR staff coaching DBs.

  • @nickers said:

    Yeah , Jim O'Brien was a dud!

    Jim O'Neil...

    Agree was in over his head as Pet's DC, but he's still in the league on Gruden's LVR staff coaching DBs.

    @tour2ma said:

    Jim O'Neil...

    Agree was in over his head as Pet's DC, but he's still in the league on Gruden's LVR staff coaching DBs.

    I guess I had "Bill O'brien on the brain lol...

  • @tour2ma said:

    Jim O'Neil...

    Agree was in over his head as Pet's DC, but he's still in the league on Gruden's LVR staff coaching DBs.

    I guess I had "Bill O'brien on the brain lol...

    @nickers said:

    I guess I had "Bill O'brien on the brain lol...

    Eh... the Irish all look alike... 😉

  • @nickers said:

    I guess I had "Bill O'brien on the brain lol...

    Eh... the Irish all look alike... 😉

    @tour2ma said:

    Eh... the Irish all look alike... 😉

    Amen Sir...

  • @nickers said:

    I guess I had "Bill O'brien on the brain lol...

    Eh... the Irish all look alike... 😉

    @tour2ma said:

    Eh... the Irish all look alike... 😉

    I resemble that remark 

  • So everyone is 100% sure that that defensive call wasn't done intentionally to lose the game, and when there was such blow-back Williams became the fall guy?

    @barry said:

    So everyone is 100% sure that that defensive call wasn't done intentionally to lose the game, and when there was such blow-back Williams became the fall guy?

    Somehow I don't see Williams' ego allowing him to take the fall for anyone.  I mean, now, who's going to hire him as a coach after that call?

  • @barry said:

    So everyone is 100% sure that that defensive call wasn't done intentionally to lose the game, and when there was such blow-back Williams became the fall guy?

    Somehow I don't see Williams' ego allowing him to take the fall for anyone.  I mean, now, who's going to hire him as a coach after that call?

    @orion said:

    I mean, now, who's going to hire him as a coach after that call?

    I'd put the over/under at 4... 😉

    My first thought was Seattle under Carroll. Pete always seems to have one vet Coach on staff. Then Gruden occurred to me. MOst likely is any team looking up at the Jets' 19th-ranked run-D and 20 sack total.... and that's about 4 teams.

    The man can coach. He's been a NFL DC for 19 years and a HC for 4 more. Getting over-aggressive on one call does not change that.