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  • L LondonBrown

    Adam Gase is a fucking oddball, no idea how he's in charge of a NFL team

    @londonbrown said:

    Adam Gase is a fucking oddball, no idea how he's in charge of a NFL team

    He got a free pass from Peyton Manning's buddy on that deal... otherwise... He's persona Non Grata....

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~

  • The Jets defense was dirty as hell, I still remember what they did to the Broncos' backup QB in his debut some weeks ago. I won't miss him. 

  • I normally ain't the conspiracy type, but the Jags had lost their very close game MOMENTS before this absolutely insane defensive call was made. Like, a pee-wee coach wouldn't call an all out blitz level insane. Really, really hard not to at least entertain the idea there was a "blow this game" thought process there.

  • So everyone is 100% sure that that defensive call wasn't done intentionally to lose the game, and when there was such blow-back Williams became the fall guy?

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  • nickersN nickers

    @londonbrown said:

    That Jim guy under Pettine, I think he cost Mike his job

    Yeah , Jim O'Brien was a dud!

    @nickers said:

    Yeah , Jim O'Brien was a dud!

    Jim O'Neil...

    Agree was in over his head as Pet's DC, but he's still in the league on Gruden's LVR staff coaching DBs.

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @nickers said:

    Yeah , Jim O'Brien was a dud!

    Jim O'Neil...

    Agree was in over his head as Pet's DC, but he's still in the league on Gruden's LVR staff coaching DBs.

    @tour2ma said:

    Jim O'Neil...

    Agree was in over his head as Pet's DC, but he's still in the league on Gruden's LVR staff coaching DBs.

    I guess I had "Bill O'brien on the brain lol...

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
  • nickersN nickers

    @tour2ma said:

    Jim O'Neil...

    Agree was in over his head as Pet's DC, but he's still in the league on Gruden's LVR staff coaching DBs.

    I guess I had "Bill O'brien on the brain lol...

    @nickers said:

    I guess I had "Bill O'brien on the brain lol...

    Eh... the Irish all look alike... 😉

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  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @nickers said:

    I guess I had "Bill O'brien on the brain lol...

    Eh... the Irish all look alike... 😉

    @tour2ma said:

    Eh... the Irish all look alike... 😉

    Amen Sir...

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
  • Tour2maT Tour2ma

    @nickers said:

    I guess I had "Bill O'brien on the brain lol...

    Eh... the Irish all look alike... 😉

    @tour2ma said:

    Eh... the Irish all look alike... 😉

    I resemble that remark 

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  • BarryB Barry

    So everyone is 100% sure that that defensive call wasn't done intentionally to lose the game, and when there was such blow-back Williams became the fall guy?

    @barry said:

    So everyone is 100% sure that that defensive call wasn't done intentionally to lose the game, and when there was such blow-back Williams became the fall guy?

    Somehow I don't see Williams' ego allowing him to take the fall for anyone.  I mean, now, who's going to hire him as a coach after that call?

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  • OrionO Orion

    @barry said:

    So everyone is 100% sure that that defensive call wasn't done intentionally to lose the game, and when there was such blow-back Williams became the fall guy?

    Somehow I don't see Williams' ego allowing him to take the fall for anyone.  I mean, now, who's going to hire him as a coach after that call?

    @orion said:

    I mean, now, who's going to hire him as a coach after that call?

    I'd put the over/under at 4... 😉

    My first thought was Seattle under Carroll. Pete always seems to have one vet Coach on staff. Then Gruden occurred to me. MOst likely is any team looking up at the Jets' 19th-ranked run-D and 20 sack total.... and that's about 4 teams.

    The man can coach. He's been a NFL DC for 19 years and a HC for 4 more. Getting over-aggressive on one call does not change that.

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  • The best part of that last infamous play of the Jets/Raiders game is that only one of the safeties actually blitzed... the other one was five to ten yards off the LOS shadowing Carr, for reasons unknown to anyone who has ever watched one minute of football. 

  • Dutch OvenD Dutch Oven

    The best part of that last infamous play of the Jets/Raiders game is that only one of the safeties actually blitzed... the other one was five to ten yards off the LOS shadowing Carr, for reasons unknown to anyone who has ever watched one minute of football. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    The best part of that last infamous play of the Jets/Raiders game is that only one of the safeties actually blitzed... the other one was five to ten yards off the LOS shadowing Carr, for reasons unknown to anyone who has ever watched one minute of football. 

    Yup... had he not delayed he should have ended up right in Carr's step-up spot... and there'd be a very different narrative today.

    That said... personally I thought he was checking that the RB did not slip out of the backfield on a hot route that could have gone the distance.

    Little did that Safety know I'd started that RB in our FF league here, so there's was no chance he'd score.

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  • OrionO Orion

    @barry said:

    So everyone is 100% sure that that defensive call wasn't done intentionally to lose the game, and when there was such blow-back Williams became the fall guy?

    Somehow I don't see Williams' ego allowing him to take the fall for anyone.  I mean, now, who's going to hire him as a coach after that call?

    @orion said:

    Somehow I don't see Williams' ego allowing him to take the fall for anyone.  I mean, now, who's going to hire him as a coach after that call?

    Just for sake of argument I'd wonder which F.O. would hire him if he 'came clean' and said he was told by Gase (and therefore implicates the F.O.) to lose the game?

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  • BarryB Barry

    @orion said:

    Somehow I don't see Williams' ego allowing him to take the fall for anyone.  I mean, now, who's going to hire him as a coach after that call?

    Just for sake of argument I'd wonder which F.O. would hire him if he 'came clean' and said he was told by Gase (and therefore implicates the F.O.) to lose the game?

    @barry said:

    Just for sake of argument I'd wonder which F.O. would hire him if he 'came clean' and said he was told by Gase (and therefore implicates the F.O.) to lose the game?

    Man, you got to think he'd be blackballed if he did that. That would be breaking the NFL's omerta. 

  • BarryB Barry

    @orion said:

    Somehow I don't see Williams' ego allowing him to take the fall for anyone.  I mean, now, who's going to hire him as a coach after that call?

    Just for sake of argument I'd wonder which F.O. would hire him if he 'came clean' and said he was told by Gase (and therefore implicates the F.O.) to lose the game?

    @barry said:

    Just for sake of argument I'd wonder which F.O. would hire him if he 'came clean' and said he was told by Gase (and therefore implicates the F.O.) to lose the game?

    Al Davis?   

    ...nah,  he was Just Win...

    I KNOW!  Haslam woulda' hired him!

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  • BarryB Barry

    So everyone is 100% sure that that defensive call wasn't done intentionally to lose the game, and when there was such blow-back Williams became the fall guy?

    @barry said:

    So everyone is 100% sure that that defensive call wasn't done intentionally to lose the game, and when there was such blow-back Williams became the fall guy?

    I agree Williams is the fall guy.. because Gase is both incompetent and insecure.  GW does blitz alot so I don't necessarily think he was tanking on purpose... it just so magically happened to work out that way.  Ruggs [and his 4.2 40] was matched up 1:1 with a UDFA rookie.. Seems legit.  

    The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
  • BarryB Barry

    So everyone is 100% sure that that defensive call wasn't done intentionally to lose the game, and when there was such blow-back Williams became the fall guy?

    @barry said:

    So everyone is 100% sure that that defensive call wasn't done intentionally to lose the game, and when there was such blow-back Williams became the fall guy?

    AGREED. You think Williams still wants to be there? He's home for the holidays, still respected in the league to get a job AND he gets to make Gase look like a bigger fool than people already think he is ! 

     Williams is a GENIUS ! 

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