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  • Although it might have been me, I travelled to Cle when we were like 7-4 before the Texans game and we played terribly and I think lost every game for the rest of the year!

    @londonbrown said:

    Although it might have been me, I travelled to Cle when we were like 7-4 before the Texans game and we played terribly and I think lost every game for the rest of the year!

    Nope its not you.  , that is exactly what happened.

  • Adam Gase is a fucking oddball, no idea how he's in charge of a NFL team

    @londonbrown said:

    Adam Gase is a fucking oddball, no idea how he's in charge of a NFL team

    Adam Gase GIFs | Tenor

  • @the-cysko-kid said:

    Freddie kitchens was the worst coach. Worse even than hue jackson. He had a ton of talent and pissed it away. Hue jackson had mostly mediocre talent and pissed it away. 

    Choosing between Freddie and Hue is like making a choice between being beaten or being robbed

    @marvin-the-martian said:

    Choosing between Freddie and Hue is like making a choice between being beaten or being robbed

    The fact that Pat Shurmur can't even make it to the Top 2 says how bad some of the coaches we had had were. 

  • @the-gipper said:

    Here you go,  ad hoc survey question: 

    Who was the worst HC we have had since 1999?    Who do you think was the worst  coordinator? 

    That Jim guy under Pettine, I think he cost Mike his job

    @londonbrown said:

    That Jim guy under Pettine, I think he cost Mike his job

    Yeah , Jim O'Brien was a dud!

  • Adam Gase is a fucking oddball, no idea how he's in charge of a NFL team

    @londonbrown said:

    Adam Gase is a fucking oddball, no idea how he's in charge of a NFL team

    He got a free pass from Peyton Manning's buddy on that deal... otherwise... He's persona Non Grata....

  • The Jets defense was dirty as hell, I still remember what they did to the Broncos' backup QB in his debut some weeks ago. I won't miss him. 

  • I normally ain't the conspiracy type, but the Jags had lost their very close game MOMENTS before this absolutely insane defensive call was made. Like, a pee-wee coach wouldn't call an all out blitz level insane. Really, really hard not to at least entertain the idea there was a "blow this game" thought process there.

  • So everyone is 100% sure that that defensive call wasn't done intentionally to lose the game, and when there was such blow-back Williams became the fall guy?

  • @londonbrown said:

    That Jim guy under Pettine, I think he cost Mike his job

    Yeah , Jim O'Brien was a dud!

    @nickers said:

    Yeah , Jim O'Brien was a dud!

    Jim O'Neil...

    Agree was in over his head as Pet's DC, but he's still in the league on Gruden's LVR staff coaching DBs.

  • @nickers said:

    Yeah , Jim O'Brien was a dud!

    Jim O'Neil...

    Agree was in over his head as Pet's DC, but he's still in the league on Gruden's LVR staff coaching DBs.

    @tour2ma said:

    Jim O'Neil...

    Agree was in over his head as Pet's DC, but he's still in the league on Gruden's LVR staff coaching DBs.

    I guess I had "Bill O'brien on the brain lol...

  • @tour2ma said:

    Jim O'Neil...

    Agree was in over his head as Pet's DC, but he's still in the league on Gruden's LVR staff coaching DBs.

    I guess I had "Bill O'brien on the brain lol...

    @nickers said:

    I guess I had "Bill O'brien on the brain lol...

    Eh... the Irish all look alike... 😉

  • @nickers said:

    I guess I had "Bill O'brien on the brain lol...

    Eh... the Irish all look alike... 😉

    @tour2ma said:

    Eh... the Irish all look alike... 😉

    Amen Sir...

  • @nickers said:

    I guess I had "Bill O'brien on the brain lol...

    Eh... the Irish all look alike... 😉

    @tour2ma said:

    Eh... the Irish all look alike... 😉

    I resemble that remark 

  • So everyone is 100% sure that that defensive call wasn't done intentionally to lose the game, and when there was such blow-back Williams became the fall guy?

    @barry said:

    So everyone is 100% sure that that defensive call wasn't done intentionally to lose the game, and when there was such blow-back Williams became the fall guy?

    Somehow I don't see Williams' ego allowing him to take the fall for anyone.  I mean, now, who's going to hire him as a coach after that call?

  • @barry said:

    So everyone is 100% sure that that defensive call wasn't done intentionally to lose the game, and when there was such blow-back Williams became the fall guy?

    Somehow I don't see Williams' ego allowing him to take the fall for anyone.  I mean, now, who's going to hire him as a coach after that call?

    @orion said:

    I mean, now, who's going to hire him as a coach after that call?

    I'd put the over/under at 4... 😉

    My first thought was Seattle under Carroll. Pete always seems to have one vet Coach on staff. Then Gruden occurred to me. MOst likely is any team looking up at the Jets' 19th-ranked run-D and 20 sack total.... and that's about 4 teams.

    The man can coach. He's been a NFL DC for 19 years and a HC for 4 more. Getting over-aggressive on one call does not change that.

  • The best part of that last infamous play of the Jets/Raiders game is that only one of the safeties actually blitzed... the other one was five to ten yards off the LOS shadowing Carr, for reasons unknown to anyone who has ever watched one minute of football. 

  • The best part of that last infamous play of the Jets/Raiders game is that only one of the safeties actually blitzed... the other one was five to ten yards off the LOS shadowing Carr, for reasons unknown to anyone who has ever watched one minute of football. 

    @dutch-oven said:

    The best part of that last infamous play of the Jets/Raiders game is that only one of the safeties actually blitzed... the other one was five to ten yards off the LOS shadowing Carr, for reasons unknown to anyone who has ever watched one minute of football. 

    Yup... had he not delayed he should have ended up right in Carr's step-up spot... and there'd be a very different narrative today.

    That said... personally I thought he was checking that the RB did not slip out of the backfield on a hot route that could have gone the distance.

    Little did that Safety know I'd started that RB in our FF league here, so there's was no chance he'd score.

  • @barry said:

    So everyone is 100% sure that that defensive call wasn't done intentionally to lose the game, and when there was such blow-back Williams became the fall guy?

    Somehow I don't see Williams' ego allowing him to take the fall for anyone.  I mean, now, who's going to hire him as a coach after that call?

    @orion said:

    Somehow I don't see Williams' ego allowing him to take the fall for anyone.  I mean, now, who's going to hire him as a coach after that call?

    Just for sake of argument I'd wonder which F.O. would hire him if he 'came clean' and said he was told by Gase (and therefore implicates the F.O.) to lose the game?

  • @orion said:

    Somehow I don't see Williams' ego allowing him to take the fall for anyone.  I mean, now, who's going to hire him as a coach after that call?

    Just for sake of argument I'd wonder which F.O. would hire him if he 'came clean' and said he was told by Gase (and therefore implicates the F.O.) to lose the game?

    @barry said:

    Just for sake of argument I'd wonder which F.O. would hire him if he 'came clean' and said he was told by Gase (and therefore implicates the F.O.) to lose the game?

    Man, you got to think he'd be blackballed if he did that. That would be breaking the NFL's omerta. 

  • @orion said:

    Somehow I don't see Williams' ego allowing him to take the fall for anyone.  I mean, now, who's going to hire him as a coach after that call?

    Just for sake of argument I'd wonder which F.O. would hire him if he 'came clean' and said he was told by Gase (and therefore implicates the F.O.) to lose the game?

    @barry said:

    Just for sake of argument I'd wonder which F.O. would hire him if he 'came clean' and said he was told by Gase (and therefore implicates the F.O.) to lose the game?

    Al Davis?   

    ...nah,  he was Just Win...

    I KNOW!  Haslam woulda' hired him!