There isn't a franchise QB in the upcoming draft
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If you don't have anything better to do on Saturdays, keep an eye on these guys:
Obviously - Teddy Twatwater, Louisville; Tajh Boyd, Clemson; Johnny Manziel, Tex A&M
Also - Derek Carr, Fresno State; A.J. McCarron, Alabama; Zach Mettenberger, LSU; Aaron Murray, Georiga; Bryn Renner, UNC
The underclassmen - Brett Hundley, UCLA; Marcus mariota, Oregon; Kevin Hogan, Stanford
Not that ALL of these guys are potential franchise QBs, but they are all talented and are creating their resumes this year to try and be the next NFL QB. They all have the potential, but it will be interesting to see which of these guys shine as the season progresses and we near the draft...
If you don't have anything better to do on Saturdays, keep an eye on these guys:
Obviously - Teddy Twatwater, Louisville; Tajh Boyd, Clemson; Johnny Manziel, Tex A&M
Also - Derek Carr, Fresno State; A.J. McCarron, Alabama; Zach Mettenberger, LSU; Aaron Murray, Georiga; Bryn Renner, UNC
The underclassmen - Brett Hundley, UCLA; Marcus mariota, Oregon; Kevin Hogan, Stanford
Not that ALL of these guys are potential franchise QBs, but they are all talented and are creating their resumes this year to try and be the next NFL QB. They all have the potential, but it will be interesting to see which of these guys shine as the season progresses and we near the draft...
Bridgewater is the only relistic chance and I don't like the odds. Anyone that thinks Manziel is going to be a franchise qb in the league is delusional
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If you don't have anything better to do on Saturdays, keep an eye on these guys:
Obviously - Teddy Twatwater, Louisville; Tajh Boyd, Clemson; Johnny Manziel, Tex A&M
Also - Derek Carr, Fresno State; A.J. McCarron, Alabama; Zach Mettenberger, LSU; Aaron Murray, Georiga; Bryn Renner, UNC
The underclassmen - Brett Hundley, UCLA; Marcus mariota, Oregon; Kevin Hogan, Stanford
Not that ALL of these guys are potential franchise QBs, but they are all talented and are creating their resumes this year to try and be the next NFL QB. They all have the potential, but it will be interesting to see which of these guys shine as the season progresses and we near the draft...
Bridgewater is the only relistic chance and I don't like the odds. Anyone that thinks Manziel is going to be a franchise qb in the league is delusional
Bridgewater is the only relistic chance and I don't like the odds. Anyone that thinks Manziel is going to be a franchise qb in the league is delusional
He puts up great numbers against the best competetion in college football. I haven't watched enough of him to trully say either way, but how can you be so sure? He has had 2 great games in his career against Alabama whose D is chalk-full of NFL talent... I don't know, too soon for me to tell...
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College talent is nothing compared to NFL talent as evidenced by recent picks Colt McCoy, Trent Richardson and Weeden.
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College talent is nothing compared to NFL talent as evidenced by recent picks Colt McCoy, Trent Richardson and Weeden.
College talent is nothing compared to NFL talent as evidenced by recent picks Colt McCoy, Trent Richardson and Weeden.
Luck had college talent. So did Peterson, Calvin Johnson, AJ Green, Drew Brees... So, what's your point?
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Point is that college talent is not guarantee of NFL talent dimwit.
"You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970. -
think i'll make my pick when the college season is over. what a concept
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Point is that college talent is not guarantee of NFL talent dimwit.
Point is that college talent is not guarantee of NFL talent dimwit.
Never said it did, but I'm pretty sure you can't draft guys based on what they are "going" to do in the NFL. So, you kinda have to go off what they did in college, right?... who's the dimwit?
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think i'll make my pick when the college season is over. what a concept
I don't think anyone is making picks now. That's just a list of people to keep your eye on, as evidenced by the line "players to keep your eye on".
I swear, some people on the forum would bitch if we signed Peyton Manning and AP because they weren't born in Cleveland.
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think i'll make my pick when the college season is over. what a concept
I don't think anyone is making picks now. That's just a list of people to keep your eye on, as evidenced by the line "players to keep your eye on".
I swear, some people on the forum would bitch if we signed Peyton Manning and AP because they weren't born in Cleveland.
I don't think anyone is making picks now. That's just a list of people to keep your eye on, as evidenced by the line "players to keep your eye on".
Exactly. If you watch a lot of College Football, like I do, I was just throwing some names out to possibly breed some excitement for our big moment in next year's draft. Watching the Browns this year, you can only hope to see improvement from our key young players like Skrine, Mingo, Gipson, Benjamin, Cameron, and maybe Rainey if he gets to play... Can't expect to many "W"s this year. So, you might enjoy scouting who our next QB and WR are going to be...
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what yall think about ala qb a.j
Seems to have subpar arm strength and accuracy. He REALLY needs to have a great year to show he is a starter. Looks more like a Quinn/McCoy kind of guy right now... a backup
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Bridgewater is the only relistic chance and I don't like the odds. Anyone that thinks Manziel is going to be a franchise qb in the league is delusional
He puts up great numbers against the best competetion in college football. I haven't watched enough of him to trully say either way, but how can you be so sure? He has had 2 great games in his career against Alabama whose D is chalk-full of NFL talent... I don't know, too soon for me to tell...
He puts up great numbers against the best competetion in college football. I haven't watched enough of him to trully say either way, but how can you be so sure? He has had 2 great games in his career against Alabama whose D is chalk-full of NFL talent... I don't know, too soon for me to tell...
No, I replied because you insinuated that Alabama has a D that is "chalk-full" of NFL talent. Which is horseshit.
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Orange85 said:
If you guys think QB is our biggest problem you are crazy! Payton Manning could not win behind this line and with this skillet handed slow recievers.
my man. hit it right on the nose. fix the OL give haden and ward help then focus on these flashy divas that everyone is lining up to give blow jobs to even before the 3rd week of the NFL let alone the 3rd week of a 10 game schedule in college football.
i could care less if your were born in timbukfukin2 just block the defensive threat to the QB open holes for a running back and be able to shut down the opposing teams offense.
sound familiar. super bowl winning giants. super bowl winning ravens (even with dilfer). giants did it once with hostettlar (go ahead yungins go google it) ravens with dilfer. it was all about opposing will on both lines, pass rush, shut down corners and a solid offensive attack led by the run and no cough-up turnovers.
i mean we were more than 3/4 of the way after free agency last year and we couldn't pick a corner or a fucking guard that can actually play?
our FO(s) plural since our return will go down in history as the most inept bunch of dumbasses in history.
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Orange85 said:
If you guys think QB is our biggest problem you are crazy! Payton Manning could not win behind this line and with this skillet handed slow recievers.
my man. hit it right on the nose. fix the OL give haden and ward help then focus on these flashy divas that everyone is lining up to give blow jobs to even before the 3rd week of the NFL let alone the 3rd week of a 10 game schedule in college football.
i could care less if your were born in timbukfukin2 just block the defensive threat to the QB open holes for a running back and be able to shut down the opposing teams offense.
sound familiar. super bowl winning giants. super bowl winning ravens (even with dilfer). giants did it once with hostettlar (go ahead yungins go google it) ravens with dilfer. it was all about opposing will on both lines, pass rush, shut down corners and a solid offensive attack led by the run and no cough-up turnovers.
i mean we were more than 3/4 of the way after free agency last year and we couldn't pick a corner or a fucking guard that can actually play?
our FO(s) plural since our return will go down in history as the most inept bunch of dumbasses in history.
my man. hit it right on the nose. fix the OL give haden and ward help then focus on these flashy divas that everyone is lining up to give blow jobs to even before the 3rd week of the NFL let alone the 3rd week of a 10 game schedule in college football.
i could care less if your were born in timbukfukin2 just block the defensive threat to the QB open holes for a running back and be able to shut down the opposing teams offense.
sound familiar. super bowl winning giants. super bowl winning ravens (even with dilfer). giants did it once with hostettlar (go ahead yungins go google it) ravens with dilfer. it was all about opposing will on both lines, pass rush, shut down corners and a solid offensive attack led by the run and no cough-up turnovers.
i mean we were more than 3/4 of the way after free agency last year and we couldn't pick a corner or a fucking guard that can actually play?
our FO(s) plural since our return will go down in history as the most inept bunch of dumbasses in history.
I disagree. Solid front 7, and good secondary are important. O-line is important, but our guys are adequate (when healthy). The most important is having guys who can get open by either running good routes, creating mismatches, or just having a knack for being in the right spot in the defense. The QB has to be on the same page as those guys who run option routes and have to be able to anticipate the WRs next move. We need a QB who can anticipate and throw WRs open, and we also need WRs who are smart and sure-handed. These 2 skills are now being taught in college more than ever before. We also may still need a Big Play threat, but I think Gordon can be that guy... if he keeps his nose clean. A CB and G would not have lead to 2-0 this year... we need weapons.
Remember Brady wins when he has weapons. Rodgers wins with great weapons around him. Flacco got lucky b/c he had good weapons around him. Peyton Manning has always had weapons. Big Ben always had weapons. Drew Brees, Joe Montana, Kosar... and on and on and on... without offensive weapons, you are in the tank. The reality of the NFL today. You also have to have a solid line and front 7, which we already have...
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my man. hit it right on the nose. fix the OL give haden and ward help then focus on these flashy divas that everyone is lining up to give blow jobs to even before the 3rd week of the NFL let alone the 3rd week of a 10 game schedule in college football.
i could care less if your were born in timbukfukin2 just block the defensive threat to the QB open holes for a running back and be able to shut down the opposing teams offense.
sound familiar. super bowl winning giants. super bowl winning ravens (even with dilfer). giants did it once with hostettlar (go ahead yungins go google it) ravens with dilfer. it was all about opposing will on both lines, pass rush, shut down corners and a solid offensive attack led by the run and no cough-up turnovers.
i mean we were more than 3/4 of the way after free agency last year and we couldn't pick a corner or a fucking guard that can actually play?
our FO(s) plural since our return will go down in history as the most inept bunch of dumbasses in history.
I disagree. Solid front 7, and good secondary are important. O-line is important, but our guys are adequate (when healthy). The most important is having guys who can get open by either running good routes, creating mismatches, or just having a knack for being in the right spot in the defense. The QB has to be on the same page as those guys who run option routes and have to be able to anticipate the WRs next move. We need a QB who can anticipate and throw WRs open, and we also need WRs who are smart and sure-handed. These 2 skills are now being taught in college more than ever before. We also may still need a Big Play threat, but I think Gordon can be that guy... if he keeps his nose clean. A CB and G would not have lead to 2-0 this year... we need weapons.
Remember Brady wins when he has weapons. Rodgers wins with great weapons around him. Flacco got lucky b/c he had good weapons around him. Peyton Manning has always had weapons. Big Ben always had weapons. Drew Brees, Joe Montana, Kosar... and on and on and on... without offensive weapons, you are in the tank. The reality of the NFL today. You also have to have a solid line and front 7, which we already have...
I disagree. Solid front 7, and good secondary are important. O-line is important, but our guys are adequate (when healthy). The most important is having guys who can get open by either running good routes, creating mismatches, or just having a knack for being in the right spot in the defense. The QB has to be on the same page as those guys who run option routes and have to be able to anticipate the WRs next move. We need a QB who can anticipate and throw WRs open, and we also need WRs who are smart and sure-handed. These 2 skills are now being taught in college more than ever before. We also may still need a Big Play threat, but I think Gordon can be that guy... if he keeps his nose clean. A CB and G would not have lead to 2-0 this year... we need weapons.
Remember Brady wins when he has weapons. Rodgers wins with great weapons around him. Flacco got lucky b/c he had good weapons around him. Peyton Manning has always had weapons. Big Ben always had weapons. Drew Brees, Joe Montana, Kosar... and on and on and on... without offensive weapons, you are in the tank. The reality of the NFL today. You also have to have a solid line and front 7, which we already have...
oh i agree weapons are necessary but having the smarts is the main reason those QBs are successful.
also now that denver has lost their start LT lets see how it plays out for manning the rest of the year. i know he gets the ball out fast, but i guarantee you he'll be taking some shots.
it's not that i don't know we need a franchise QB and a top notch WR, it's that we've had these 2 other GLARING fucking holes for god knows how long (well since haden became a shut down corner) that it seems like these dopes will never plug those holes. if we had another stand out corner and maybe another safety the defense would be complete. finute. you wouldn't have to worry about anything else on that side of the ball except maybe depth which you can fill in with FAs or even UDFAs.
just give me that lord and a right guard and you guys can have a field day drafting every offensive diva from here to mars.
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jonny football is nasty, just dont know if he would be good in the NFL
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I want nothing to do with manziel.
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What I call "jitterbug" running QBs, ie Tarkenton (remember him?), Vick, RG3, etc scare me injury wise & aren't proven in taking a team to a high level & maintaining success. While that type QB seems to be what teams like now, I'm still a little leary (but I'm OLD too! LOL). I still like pocket passers, but they need more athleticism in todays' NFL. To me, the most important qualities in a QB are intelligence & accuracy...the other stuff is nice to have, but those 2 are mandatory.
I guess we'll see what the Browns hierarchy likes soon enough.
Mike
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College talent is nothing compared to NFL talent as evidenced by recent picks Colt McCoy, Trent Richardson and Weeden.
Luck had college talent. So did Peterson, Calvin Johnson, AJ Green, Drew Brees... So, what's your point?
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