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  • Browns1216B Browns1216

    Pettine has been the best coach in a while, anything beats Shurmurball and the Chud implosion the last half of last year's season. Hoyer has his good moments and his bad moments, still the best QB Browns have had in recent years. It will be exciting to see where the Browns finish, even 8-8 is better than anything we've seen in a long time. The team is finally heading in the right direction. I hope no one panics and pushes the reset button yet again.

    @browns1216 said:

    Pettine has been the best coach in a while, anything beats Shurmurball and the Chud implosion the last half of last year's season. Hoyer has his good moments and his bad moments, still the best QB Browns have had in recent years. It will be exciting to see where the Browns finish, even 8-8 is better than anything we've seen in a long time. The team is finally heading in the right direction. I hope no one panics and pushes the reset button yet again.

    No, they overcame Pettiness horrible clock management and Hoyer's poor play and they pulled out a nail biter on the road. In his interview, Gordon said he just wanted to prove to his teammates that he was willing to do anything to win including running the ball. The team with all these injuries is getting a taste for winning and they like it. And here's a shout out to the backups who DID THIER JOBS!

    F#ck the Ravens! We got Crow!

    DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!
  • KvoetheK Kvoethe

    Reading this board, you would never know we are 7-3, more like the reverse.

    @kvoethe said:

    Reading this board, you would never know we are 7-3, more like the reverse.

    Well then you would be smart, because we aren't 7-3

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  • WalterWhiteW WalterWhite

    @browns1216 said:

    Pettine has been the best coach in a while, anything beats Shurmurball and the Chud implosion the last half of last year's season. Hoyer has his good moments and his bad moments, still the best QB Browns have had in recent years. It will be exciting to see where the Browns finish, even 8-8 is better than anything we've seen in a long time. The team is finally heading in the right direction. I hope no one panics and pushes the reset button yet again.

    Defending shit play?

    We look like hell and you say headed in the right direction?

    God you're embarrassing.

    @walterwhite said:

    Defending shit play?

    We look like hell and you say headed in the right direction?

    God you're embarrassing.

    Yup Walter- that's one of the marks of a good team- play bad, and golly gee- still win a game. Or maybe you prefer the opposite, play great, and lose?

    @kvoethe said:

    I stand by saying harbaugh will be coach next season when he departs from SF.

    Pettine's job is 100% safe at this point- bet the ranch on it. If Harbaugh goes anywhere- it going to be back home to Michigan after Hoke gets fired. The Wolverines will offer to make him the highest paid coach in the history of college football, if he's willing to listen.

  • The browns have been as bad as they've been for as long as they've been because of a lack of continuity. Pettine will continue to grow in his position as head coach. You need to stop the coaching carousel at some point no?

    AKA SNATCH98 or Rorbotron. The boards glorious admins decided to get cute and change my name to "homotron" Classy group of people. (Lost a bet with Columbus king and got banned for a month)
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  • Mark OM Mark O

    @kvoethe said:

    I stand by saying harbaugh will be coach next season when he departs from SF.

    Harbaugh will be coaching that team up north. He's not cut out for the NFL at least not yet.

    @mark-o said:

    Harbaugh will be coaching that team up north. He's not cut out for the NFL at least not yet.

    I agree. I think most top coaches believe a top college job is far better and more secure then a NFL job. They have far more control over their fate.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
  • WalterWhiteW WalterWhite

    Mike Pettine isn't a good coach and Brian Hoyer isn't an accurate QB.

    That coaching in the last minute was fire-able.

    @walterwhite said:

    Mike Pettine isn't a good coach and Brian Hoyer isn't an accurate QB.

    That coaching in the last minute was fire-able.

    Oh c'mon. So there is some questionable clock management at times but "fire-able"? At 7-4 in his rookie HC year? Are you insane?

  • VagitronV Vagitron

    The browns have been as bad as they've been for as long as they've been because of a lack of continuity. Pettine will continue to grow in his position as head coach. You need to stop the coaching carousel at some point no?

    @vagitron said:

    The browns have been as bad as they've been for as long as they've been because of a lack of continuity. Pettine will continue to grow in his position as head coach. You need to stop the coaching carousel at some point no?

    The lack of continuity may be part of it....but that is not all, only a minor part. Talent plays a part.

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  • The GipperT The Gipper

    @vagitron said:

    The browns have been as bad as they've been for as long as they've been because of a lack of continuity. Pettine will continue to grow in his position as head coach. You need to stop the coaching carousel at some point no?

    The lack of continuity may be part of it....but that is not all, only a minor part. Talent plays a part.

    @the-gipper said:

    The lack of continuity may be part of it....but that is not all, only a minor part. Talent plays a part.

    Yup... Having a HC who is talented helps. Along with leadership, vision, social skills, intestinal fortitude...

    Vag, where exactly do you think we should have stopped the HC wheel since '99?

    With the possible exception of Mangini and maybe Butch (minus the GM duties), I got nothing...

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196

  • Again I ask........are we tanking the season?

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  • Browns1216B Browns1216

    yes, I think being 6-4 in November with tons of starters injured is heading in the right direction. Much better football than what was seen the last few seasons. It looks rough at times but can you see Weeden making the same comebacks Hoyer has? Can you say that the team is worse now than it was last season? Can you say that you honestly believe Pettine is a worse coach than Shurmur?

    @browns1216 said:

    yes, I think being 6-4 in November with tons of starters injured is heading in the right direction. Much better football than what was seen the last few seasons. It looks rough at times but can you see Weeden making the same comebacks Hoyer has? Can you say that the team is worse now than it was last season? Can you say that you honestly believe Pettine is a worse coach than Shurmur?

    Enjoying mediocrity, I love it!

  • K kbndawg

    Again I ask........are we tanking the season?

    @kbndawg said:

    Again I ask........are we tanking the season?

    no. the starting QB just tanked his career. if we were going to tank the season they should have started like oh, let's say THE FIRST GAME?

  • The OP must be half brain dead.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.

  • Leaving hoyer in the game today=tanking the fucking season.

  • Tanking the season would be what Indianapolis did when Manning left to get Luck genius.

    "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.

  • Honestly i think the Browns were proving to Hoyer that is was not worth "starter" money. No reason on this planet to stick with him today "if" you wanted to make the playoffs.

  • Browns are not tanking to get a higher draft pick.....they are tanking to not pay Hoyer and start the JFF era next year.

    ballpeenB 1 Reply

  • HOYER sucks. Great kid,plenty of heart,but no skills. Pettins decision cost us the season today. Great defense,zero offense. This sucks, I am so pissed off right now!!!!!!!!!!

  • K kbndawg

    Again I ask........are we tanking the season?

    @kbndawg said:

    Again I ask........are we tanking the season?

    Same answer. No.

    @diehardbrownsfan said:

    The OP must be half brain dead.

    Only half?

    "When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196

  • You guys honestly think that today the Browns were trying to win? Leaving Hoyer in was the correct call? You honestly think th\at Hoyer gave us the best chance to win? Browns have turned their attention to next year and not paying Hoyer.

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  • K kbndawg

    I really think that the Browns are trying to not win. Call me crazy but it looks like we have a "next year" attitude.

    @kbndawg said:

    I really think that the Browns are trying to not win. Call me crazy but it looks like we have a "next year" attitude.

    In many ways, "Tomorrow" is "Today" in the NFL.

    Ask (former) Coach Chud

    Your contention is nuttier than nuts, IMHO.

    It is just as logical that The Browns have taken "The next 20 years" attitude, starting in 1999.

    Think so?

    "God is great. Beer is good. People are crazy."
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