Gipson pissed.
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He CANT walk away without the Browns having the opportunity to match the offer. That's what we've been trying to get through your giant fat blockhead all night long.
He's a restricted free agent...the Browns have control. Wait and see what he gets offered and then go from there. This really isn't that complicated for anyone who would like to have an open mind and the reading comprehension above the 3rd grade.
You obviously are the one who can't get it.
Say the Eagles for example part with a 2nd and we match it, and he has another great year.
What in the fuck makes you think he's going to want to stick around in 2016 after being low balled by us?
He'll go elsewhere, lets prevent that, getting him LOCKED DOWN NOW.
And lets stop acting like every move Ray Farmer has made doesn't deserve question.
Say the Eagles for example part with a 2nd and we match it, and he has another great year.
What in the fuck makes you think he's going to want to stick around in 2016 after being low balled by us?
1. Since Gip is now on the open market, then by definition if we retain him, we did not "low-ball" him.
2. As far as I know, tendering now does not preclude tagging in the future... and that can be done at least two years running. So I assume top-five pay followed by top pay ought to piss him off even more?
"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196 -
It's Gipson's fault that he wasn't good enough to get drafted out of college. He knew all along what restricted free agency is like and the Browns made the right move.
Let the market determine his worth and if you feel like that's fair value, you match the offer.
Walter, you complain about the Packers and Patriots resigning their players, yet this is exactly what they did. The Packers let Cobb test the market to gauge his value and then resigned him. They risk losing Bulaga because of the same thing. The Patriots let McCourty hit the market and then matched the offer that was on the table. Both teams relied on the player's willingness to resign with his original team. If Gipson wants to stay with the Browns than all he has to do is sign an offer sheet which he thinks is fair and then hope the Browns match it.
As an organization you have to determine what a player is worth to you and stick to that. That's how teams like the Packers and Patriots stay consistently at the top.
Isn't that basically what the Browns did with Alex Mack last year?
Isn't that basically what the Browns did with Alex Mack last year?
Mack was an unrestricted free agent and had more leverage since the transition tag was around 9 million (if I'm not mistaken). The bottom line is that with Mack they couldn't come to an agreement by the tag deadline and so the Browns opted to let the market determine his value with the option to match any offer.
With Gipson they hold much more leverage since he is a restricted free agent and they could still franchise him next year for a fairly low cost.
The general thinking is the same though.
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Say the Eagles for example part with a 2nd and we match it, and he has another great year.
What in the fuck makes you think he's going to want to stick around in 2016 after being low balled by us?
1. Since Gip is now on the open market, then by definition if we retain him, we did not "low-ball" him.
2. As far as I know, tendering now does not preclude tagging in the future... and that can be done at least two years running. So I assume top-five pay followed by top pay ought to piss him off even more?
1. Since Gip is now on the open market, then by definition if we retain him, we did not "low-ball" him.
2. As far as I know, tendering now does not preclude tagging in the future... and that can be done at least two years running. So I assume top-five pay followed by top pay ought to piss him off even more?
On top of that, what are the chances that a team is willing to part ways with a 2nd round pick for a one year rental of a player? That's the only way he'd be a free agent again in 2016...
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Twitter crap aside, as much as I think Gipson is a great player he is coming off a knee injury. It's hard to tell sometimes how players come back from knee issues, even if they weren't total blow ups. Gipson will be a Brown next year, and there's nothing stopping them from working on a contract throughout the year.
Relax, it's not like they cut him.
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Walter actually taking time to check or know facts?
HA!...Thats a good one.....
It was part of the "conversation" earlier...
To paraphrase Carlin: "My shit is fact and your facts are shit."
On top of that, what are the chances that a team is willing to part ways with a 2nd round pick for a one year rental of a player? That's the only way he'd be a free agent again in 2016...
... or if he gets no offers and does not sign an extension with us. Then we'd get him at the tender for one-year.
Unlikely, but possible...
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Great logic here guys.
"It's not a big deal if we lose one of our top 5 best players as long as we get a 2nd round pick that we'll most likely blow"
Great logic here guys.
"It's not a big deal if we lose one of our top 5 best players as long as we get a 2nd round pick that we'll most likely blow"
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Great logic here guys.
"It's not a big deal if we lose one of our top 5 best players as long as we get a 2nd round pick that we'll most likely blow"
Great logic here guys.
"It's not a big deal if we lose one of our top 5 best players as long as we get a 2nd round pick that we'll most likely blow"
You truely are dumber than a box of rocks. Have you taken your medication today?
What part of what the Brown's did is illogical? They essentially did what they did with Mack without the transition tag and WITH compensation should they decide not to match an offer, something that they would not have received with Mack. And if I remember correctly your stupid, narrow minded, oblivious ass LOVED what they did with Mack last year.
You need help dude. Either that or you are a Zombo/Gipper troll bot!
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One of my the few smart moves by the Browns, just like Robertson. You have to use these contract options to maximize your cap
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Let's let a young pro bowl player walk so we can get a 2nd round rookie who we hope becomes a pro bowler.
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"When you have a shared vision it is a lot easier to make unpopular decisions." - Paul DePodesta "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." - Paul Brown Complete 2017 Browns Board Mock: http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46196
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Nobody is calling you a troll. We're calling you stupid, because that's what you are.
You just think you know what you're talking about, when in reality you're very, very, very stupid.
You can't handle the facts fuck boy
You can't handle the facts fuck boy
Are people really this stupid? I mean we are not going to lose him. Macks deal included option years because that is what the Jaguars (I believe) offered him to make it a tough pill for the Browns. Gipson doesn't have ANY option years as of yet. Let him go out and see what he is worth. What people think he is worth, and what other teams value him at could be very different.
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Let's let a young pro bowl player walk so we can get a 2nd round rookie who we hope becomes a pro bowler.
Let's let a young pro bowl player walk so we can get a 2nd round rookie who we hope becomes a pro bowler.
This is the same post you made on page 2. So i guess you really are just trolling.
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Let's let a young pro bowl player walk so we can get a 2nd round rookie who we hope becomes a pro bowler.
Let's let a young pro bowl player walk so we can get a 2nd round rookie who we hope becomes a pro bowler.
You are literally the dumbest fucking person that has existed. I bet your dads are so proud.
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Let's let a young pro bowl player walk so we can get a 2nd round rookie who we hope becomes a pro bowler.
You are literally the dumbest fucking person that has existed. I bet your dads are so proud.
You are literally the dumbest fucking person that has existed. I bet your dads are so proud.
Still recovering after you got layed the fuck out with facts? I busted your lip and gave you a black eye of facts.
Ouch. Gotta burn fuck boy
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You are literally the dumbest fucking person that has existed. I bet your dads are so proud.
Still recovering after you got layed the fuck out with facts? I busted your lip and gave you a black eye of facts.
Ouch. Gotta burn fuck boy
Still recovering after you got layed the fuck out with facts? I busted your lip and gave you a black eye of facts.
Ouch. Gotta burn fuck boy
I'd love to know what world you live in.
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Still recovering after you got layed the fuck out with facts? I busted your lip and gave you a black eye of facts.
Ouch. Gotta burn fuck boy
I'd love to know what world you live in.
I'd love to know what world you live in.
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Still recovering after you got layed the fuck out with facts? I busted your lip and gave you a black eye of facts.
Ouch. Gotta burn fuck boy
I'd love to know what world you live in.
I'd love to know what world you live in.
As a full page of topics will attest... Twitter-world...
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I'd love to know what world you live in.
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