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Homo Group Demands Christian Churches be SHUT DOWN for opposing same-sex marriage

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  • calfoxwc C Dedicated Very Popular Conversation Starter Collaborator First Post Posting Machine Reacting Well Week One Done One Year In One Month Later
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    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
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    If churches lost their tax exempt status, they could not afford,

    aall too often, to keep their church. The left is uprising with the encouragement

    of these dirtbags in our WH, Buttock and Moochell Obamao.

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      Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by Browns149
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      The church slides around those exempt restrictions by having "Their" candidate do the talking.

      That way the church keeps it's racket of tax free money going.

      "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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        Exemption Requirements - 501©(3) Organizations

        To be tax-exempt under section 501©(3) of the Internal Revenue Code, an organization must be organized and operated exclusively for exempt purposes set forth in section 501©(3), and none of its earnings may inure to any private shareholder or individual. In addition, it may not be an action organization, i.e., it may not attempt to influence legislation as a substantial part of its activities and it may not participate in any campaign activity for or against political candidates.

        Churches that lobby to have freedoms and rights taken away from ANYONE should absolutely have their 501©3 status revoked"

        Seems like he's just saying that the law should be applied?

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        OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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        @gftchris said:

        Exemption Requirements - 501©(3) Organizations

        To be tax-exempt under section 501©(3) of the Internal Revenue Code, an organization must be organized and operated exclusively for exempt purposes set forth in section 501©(3), and none of its earnings may inure to any private shareholder or individual. In addition, it may not be an action organization, i.e., it may not attempt to influence legislation as a substantial part of its activities and it may not participate in any campaign activity for or against political candidates.

        Churches that lobby to have freedoms and rights taken away from ANYONE should absolutely have their 501©3 status revoked"

        Seems like he's just saying that the law should be applied?

        First, churches don’t need 501c3 status to be tax exempt, they are automatically exempt by virtue of being a church.

        Second, churches don’t need 501c3 status in order for their members’ contributions to be tax-deductible.

        Why then is it almost universal practice for churches to incorporate and seek 501c3 status? It’s nothing but an unneeded sense of assurance from the government.

        Marcus Owens is an attorney who was formerly the head of the IRS tax-exempt division in DC. He has since been defending churches against the IRS. He confirms the sentiments above: churches don’t need 501c3. As to why churches so frequently line up to file for what they don’t need, he said, “Mostly it’s just a matter of extra reassurance.”

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          LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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          Shutdown and losing a tax exemption are two different things.

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            W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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            I'm not religious and I have no problem with gay marriage but this should alarm anyone who still pretends that the Constitution and Bill of Rights have any meaning whatsoever. This country, for those who love to sing the praises of the founding fathers, was in part built on religious liberty which is being trumped by the politically correct whims of the left.

            Which of the lefties on this board would support closing down a kosher bakery that refused to make swastika cakes? How about shutting down a soul food restaurant who refused to cater a Klan meeting?

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              I'm not religious and I have no problem with gay marriage but this should alarm anyone who still pretends that the Constitution and Bill of Rights have any meaning whatsoever. This country, for those who love to sing the praises of the founding fathers, was in part built on religious liberty which is being trumped by the politically correct whims of the left.

              Which of the lefties on this board would support closing down a kosher bakery that refused to make swastika cakes? How about shutting down a soul food restaurant who refused to cater a Klan meeting?

              WSS

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              Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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              @westside-steve said:

              I'm not religious and I have no problem with gay marriage but this should alarm anyone who still pretends that the Constitution and Bill of Rights have any meaning whatsoever. This country, for those who love to sing the praises of the founding fathers, was in part built on religious liberty which is being trumped by the politically correct whims of the left.

              Which of the lefties on this board would support closing down a kosher bakery that refused to make swastika cakes? How about shutting down a soul food restaurant who refused to cater a Klan meeting?

              WSS

              I think this whole issue is going to come down to "religious rights" vs. "civil rights"

              EVERYONE has civil rights

              A lot of people don't have religion or want religion.

              "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                htownbrownH htownbrown wrote on last edited by
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                OBF,

                The way the tax exemption is written is very shaky, but I think its saying if you spend too much money (whatever that is) lobbying and what not, the IRS can determine you are a religious organization rather than a church. And if that happens you are subject to taxation.

                “It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.”
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                • htownbrownH htownbrown

                  OBF,

                  The way the tax exemption is written is very shaky, but I think its saying if you spend too much money (whatever that is) lobbying and what not, the IRS can determine you are a religious organization rather than a church. And if that happens you are subject to taxation.

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                  OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                  @htownbrown said:

                  OBF,

                  The way the tax exemption is written is very shaky, but I think its saying if you spend too much money (whatever that is) lobbying and what not, the IRS can determine you are a religious organization rather than a church. And if that happens you are subject to taxation.

                  http://americanvision.org/8389/dear-huckabee-churches-need-not-give-up-tax-exempt-status-to-speak-freely/

                  Mike Huckabee has been lobbying for churches to voluntarily give up tax exempt status to speak freely. I saw this article that states it isn't necessary which is where I got my information from.

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                    @westside-steve said:

                    I'm not religious and I have no problem with gay marriage but this should alarm anyone who still pretends that the Constitution and Bill of Rights have any meaning whatsoever. This country, for those who love to sing the praises of the founding fathers, was in part built on religious liberty which is being trumped by the politically correct whims of the left.

                    Which of the lefties on this board would support closing down a kosher bakery that refused to make swastika cakes? How about shutting down a soul food restaurant who refused to cater a Klan meeting?

                    WSS

                    I think this whole issue is going to come down to "religious rights" vs. "civil rights"

                    EVERYONE has civil rights

                    A lot of people don't have religion or want religion.

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                    W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
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                    @browns149 said:

                    I think this whole issue is going to come down to "religious rights" vs. "civil rights"

                    EVERYONE has civil rights

                    A lot of people don't have religion or want religion.

                    Everyone has religious rights according to the constitution. If they don't Obama should just go on TV and say "I'm eliminating certain sections of the Bill of Rights by executive order, fuck you all."

                    WSS

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                      MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                      I don't understand why I am supposed to subsidize religion. It would seem that a separation of church and state would not allow that. Let churches, mosques, whatever, function as corporations on their own more or less. And let them say whatever they want

                      Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                        P Pumpkin Eater wrote on last edited by
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                        You don't subsidize shit fagboy. And religions can't be forced to pay taxes. End of story.

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                        • P Pumpkin Eater

                          You don't subsidize shit fagboy. And religions can't be forced to pay taxes. End of story.

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                          LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                          @pumpkin-eater said:

                          You don't subsidize shit fagboy. And religions can't be forced to pay taxes. End of story.

                          Benny Hinn definitely needs to have the tax breaks.

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                            You don't subsidize shit fagboy. And religions can't be forced to pay taxes. End of story.

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                            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                            @pumpkin-eater said:

                            You don't subsidize shit fagboy. And religions can't be forced to pay taxes. End of story.

                            Religious institutions are the real moochers...

                            How am I not indirectly subsidizing them?

                            Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                              MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                              Can a Christian bakery refuse to bake a cake for a bar mitzvah or for some Islamic holiday?

                              Both of those go against their religion. And those are actually fucking choices too, not genetics.

                              Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
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                                @browns149 said:

                                I think this whole issue is going to come down to "religious rights" vs. "civil rights"

                                EVERYONE has civil rights

                                A lot of people don't have religion or want religion.

                                Everyone has religious rights according to the constitution. If they don't Obama should just go on TV and say "I'm eliminating certain sections of the Bill of Rights by executive order, fuck you all."

                                WSS

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                                Browns149B Browns149 wrote on last edited by
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                                @westside-steve said:

                                Everyone has religious rights according to the constitution. If they don't Obama should just go on TV and say "I'm eliminating certain sections of the Bill of Rights by executive order, fuck you all."

                                WSS

                                So when it comes down to it, what will it be? Civil rights or religious rights?

                                Apparently some people want one more then the other

                                "And they don't really know even what they're talkin' about And I can't imagine what empty heads can achieve."
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                                  Mike Pence should have just waited for the rest of the common sense thinking people

                                  to see the facist version of tolerance by the LGBT and the bully tactics from the likes of the hypocrite Tim Cook....

                                  He and Indiana couldve had a Chic fila moment here. Maybe they still can.

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                                    @pumpkin-eater said:

                                    You don't subsidize shit fagboy. And religions can't be forced to pay taxes. End of story.

                                    Benny Hinn definitely needs to have the tax breaks.

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                                    Legacy FanL Legacy Fan wrote on last edited by
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                                    @logicisforsquares said:

                                    Benny Hinn definitely needs to have the tax breaks.

                                    My favorite YouTube video:

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                                      @westside-steve said:

                                      Everyone has religious rights according to the constitution. If they don't Obama should just go on TV and say "I'm eliminating certain sections of the Bill of Rights by executive order, fuck you all."

                                      WSS

                                      So when it comes down to it, what will it be? Civil rights or religious rights?

                                      Apparently some people want one more then the other

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                                      W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
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                                      @browns149 said:

                                      So when it comes down to it, what will it be? Civil rights or religious rights?

                                      Apparently some people want one more then the other

                                      Well whether we like it or not I think the choice has already been made and the answer is neither.

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                                        OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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                                        Benny Hinn and others like him on television give Christians a bad name. For every Benny Hinn minister there are thousands who are not on television working with needy people and doing a good work in their community. I always thought for a television minister Billy Graham was very good and we need more like him today IMO.

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                                        • OldBrownsFanO OldBrownsFan

                                          Benny Hinn and others like him on television give Christians a bad name. For every Benny Hinn minister there are thousands who are not on television working with needy people and doing a good work in their community. I always thought for a television minister Billy Graham was very good and we need more like him today IMO.

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                                          LogicIsForSquaresL LogicIsForSquares wrote on last edited by
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                                          @oldbrownsfan said:

                                          Benny Hinn and others like him on television give Christians a bad name. For every Benny Hinn minister there are thousands who are not on television working with needy people and doing a good work in their community. I always thought for a television minister Billy Graham was very good and we need more like him today IMO.

                                          I would just question someone becoming absurdly wealthy from preaching. I am sure Hinn and Graham could donate some of their money to worthy causes given how they got the money to begin with.

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