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  • ITHIKAI ITHIKA

    @thaak said:

    Oh, if I decided to do some research, I bet you could find at least 20 guys who've made multiple all-pro games from the 5th round and later. Actually, you could probably find 20 guys who are in the hall of fame and were 5th round draft picks.

    And what are our odds of finding one? Give me a break!

    @ithika said:

    And what are our odds of finding one? Give me a break!

    Terrell Davis (6th round) HOF?

    Deacon Jones (14th round) HOF

    Shannon Sharpe (7th round) HOF

    Larry Wilson (7th round)

    Roger Staubach (10th round) HOF

    Zach Thomas (5th round)

    Johnny Unitas (9th round) HOF

    Tom Fears (9th round)

    George Blanda (12th round) HOF

    Steve Largent (4th round) HOF

    Dan Lavelli (12th round by the Browns) HOF

    Earnest Byner (10th round)

    Jessie Armstead (8th round)

    Seth Joyner (8th round)

    Rodney Harrison (5th round)

    Marques Colston (7th round)

    Donald Driver (7th round)

    TJ Whosyourmam (7th round)

    Raymond Berry (20th round) HOF

    Richard Dent (8th round)

    Mark Chmura (6th round)

    Mark Brunell (5th round)

    Dorsey Levens (5th round)

    Matt Hasselbeck (6th round)

    Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila (5th round)

    Matt Birk (5th round)

    Jamal "I like cocaine" Anderson (7th round)

    Larry Centers (5th round)

    Last but not least GOLDBURG (11th round), jk on that one.

    There are many, many more.

    Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12

  • Zombo said:

    Dwight Clark wasn't a Tight End.

    But I will throw in Shannon Sharpe three times

    Zombo

    Neither is K2. LOL, my mistake. Clark did block like one I tell ya.

    Luck is Tim Couch. Big, Dumb Goofy, slow thinking QB - Ghoolie, 2-28-12

  • like I said before...Japer Brinkley and Shonn Greene....I'd forget about winslow if that happens!

  • ? Guest

    @flugel said:

    The ONLY team with more than 8 wins that we've beaten in the last 2 years besides Seattle was the NY Giants on a night Winslow didn't play. Kind of NICE being less predictable.

    - Tom F.

    3 picks of Eli and an extra week to prepare had a big part in that win over the G-men as well. Along with them probably being a little over confident coming into that game, after the preseason beat down.

    Masters said:

    3 picks of Eli and an extra week to prepare had a big part in that win over the G-men as well. Along with them probably being a little over confident coming into that game, after the preseason beat down.

    Good point!

    BUT check this out from our TEs that game:

    S. Heiden 5 rec 59 yds

    D. Dinkins 1 rec 22 yds 1 TD

    That didn't make Edwards have a bad night as he had 5 rec 154 Yds 1 TD

    Now look at how well we ran the ball vrs a playoff team when we had better blockign on the edge:

    Cleveland Rush Yds Avg TD

    J. Lewis 21 88 4.2 1

    J. Harrison 2 41 20.5 0

    J. Cribbs 1 12 12.0 0

    J. Wright 1 3 3.0 0

    L. Vickers 1 2 2.0 0

    There's 146 yards on the Giants and we couldn't do that vrs BAD teams when Winslow played this last season.

    - Tom F.

    I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!"
  • FlugelF Flugel

    Masters said:

    3 picks of Eli and an extra week to prepare had a big part in that win over the G-men as well. Along with them probably being a little over confident coming into that game, after the preseason beat down.

    Good point!

    BUT check this out from our TEs that game:

    S. Heiden 5 rec 59 yds

    D. Dinkins 1 rec 22 yds 1 TD

    That didn't make Edwards have a bad night as he had 5 rec 154 Yds 1 TD

    Now look at how well we ran the ball vrs a playoff team when we had better blockign on the edge:

    Cleveland Rush Yds Avg TD

    J. Lewis 21 88 4.2 1

    J. Harrison 2 41 20.5 0

    J. Cribbs 1 12 12.0 0

    J. Wright 1 3 3.0 0

    L. Vickers 1 2 2.0 0

    There's 146 yards on the Giants and we couldn't do that vrs BAD teams when Winslow played this last season.

    - Tom F.

    @flugel said:

    Good point!

    BUT check this out from our TEs that game:

    S. Heiden 5 rec 59 yds

    D. Dinkins 1 rec 22 yds 1 TD

    That didn't make Edwards have a bad night as he had 5 rec 154 Yds 1 TD

    Now look at how well we ran the ball vrs a playoff team when we had better blockign on the edge:

    Cleveland Rush Yds Avg TD

    J. Lewis 21 88 4.2 1

    J. Harrison 2 41 20.5 0

    J. Cribbs 1 12 12.0 0

    J. Wright 1 3 3.0 0

    L. Vickers 1 2 2.0 0

    There's 146 yards on the Giants and we couldn't do that vrs BAD teams when Winslow played this last season.

    - Tom F.

    Coudln't do it against bad teams w/o Winslon either this past season. I just don't draw a lot from Winslow being out in that game a reason for good play.

    FlugelF 1 Reply

  • I just see it as Winslow wasn't going to fit in the plans and we traded a problem before it became a problem once he started getting 2-3 balls a game.

    If we got a 2nd and something else, I am good with the deal.

    Face it....Mangini wants to put his stamp on the team. That means new blood.

    Before it done, expect to see more players traded....Rogers is probably next.

    If everybody had like minds, we would never learn.
  • ? Guest

    @brownindian said:

    im happy we are getting multiple picks with this trade. He was good but also expensive and better to get rid of him when he has value.

    We have plenty of talent at TE. The picks will def be used to sure up the roster and add depth, I think it's a good move. As long as they atleast got a 2nd / 4th.

    AdaM said:

    We have plenty of talent at TE. The picks will def be used to sure up the roster and add depth, I think it's a good move. As long as they atleast got a 2nd / 4th.

    Great move Browns dumping the slug of uselessness Kellen Winslow JR..........GREAT DAY IN BROWNS HISTORY ridding ourselves from that slug

    and if Mangini is worth a shit...........Rogers needs to go as well..........overhyped average performer in a team that cannot play the scheme

    Offense Wins.......Franchise QB's are the key.............Defense keeps you in the game.........Go Buckeyes
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  • as a devil's advocate...Winslow has a bad knee, Bad ankle and very bad shoulder....and wants a new huge contract. I hope the pick is conditional up to 3rd next year! second this year and third next year would be a good trade!

  • R Riceloft

    I like it, if we get an early 3rd rounder or better its a good deal.

    K2 is on borrowed time with his knee issues. Might as well get something for him while we could.

    @riceloft said:

    I like it, if we get an early 3rd rounder or better its a good deal.

    K2 is on borrowed time with his knee issues. Might as well get something for him while we could.

    To me, that's what it all comes down to and is exactly why I'm perfectly fine with this trade.

    "I like to quote myself." -Me
    P 1 Reply

  • The useless overhyped dumb wasted slug is finally gone...........glad this time Tampa went brain dead instead of us as usual

    Offense Wins.......Franchise QB's are the key.............Defense keeps you in the game.........Go Buckeyes
    listercatL 1 Reply
  • T Timugen

    @riceloft said:

    I like it, if we get an early 3rd rounder or better its a good deal.

    K2 is on borrowed time with his knee issues. Might as well get something for him while we could.

    To me, that's what it all comes down to and is exactly why I'm perfectly fine with this trade.

    @timugen said:

    To me, that's what it all comes down to and is exactly why I'm perfectly fine with this trade.

    Me too!

  • rich4eagleR rich4eagle

    The useless overhyped dumb wasted slug is finally gone...........glad this time Tampa went brain dead instead of us as usual

    @rich4eagle said:

    The useless overhyped dumb wasted slug is finally gone...........glad this time Tampa went brain dead instead of us as usual

    I agree with you here Rich; dude is one injury away from retirement...another Browns draft failure

  • listercatL listercat

    @rich4eagle said:

    The useless overhyped dumb wasted slug is finally gone...........glad this time Tampa went brain dead instead of us as usual

    I agree with you here Rich; dude is one injury away from retirement...another Browns draft failure

    @listercat said:

    I agree with you here Rich; dude is one injury away from retirement...another Browns draft failure

    All players are one injury away from retirement.

    And Winslow is not a draft failure. He's put up top 5 TE numbers for 3 years now.

    listercatL 1 Reply

  • when do we know what we got for him?

  • P PlayoffsIN09

    when do we know what we got for him?

    @playoffsin09 said:

    when do we know what we got for him?

    Probably tonight or tomorrow.

    They will likely reveal that the pick is indeed this years 2nd rounder, and next years is a conditional pick that has the potential to be a 2nd or 3rd if winslow produces.

    listercatL 1 Reply
  • ThaakT Thaak

    @listercat said:

    I agree with you here Rich; dude is one injury away from retirement...another Browns draft failure

    All players are one injury away from retirement.

    And Winslow is not a draft failure. He's put up top 5 TE numbers for 3 years now.

    @thaak said:

    All players are one injury away from retirement.

    And Winslow is not a draft failure. He's put up top 5 TE numbers for 3 years now.

    True; that was not my best take...or my intent. My point is that he has been very injury prone; it is obvious that we are in rebuild mode and I am fine with someone who claimed to be a soldier (I actually WAS one; 'visitor' in Iraq) with a complete attitude problem is gone

  • ? Guest

    @playoffsin09 said:

    when do we know what we got for him?

    Probably tonight or tomorrow.

    They will likely reveal that the pick is indeed this years 2nd rounder, and next years is a conditional pick that has the potential to be a 2nd or 3rd if winslow produces.

    AdaM said:

    Probably tonight or tomorrow.

    They will likely reveal that the pick is indeed this years 2nd rounder, and next years is a conditional pick that has the potential to be a 2nd or 3rd if winslow produces.

    According to Sirius NFL; WTAM we receive a second this year and a fifth next

  • Zombo said:

    Bucs 2nd rounder is pick #50

    Good spot for a lineman

    Zombo

    The Brinkley scenario is intriguing, but Jennings or Greene to go along with a Center (Eric Wood) wouldn't be bad, neither.

    OG Duke Robinson wouldn't be bad, but he'll likely be gone by #50. Besides, I think our weakest link on the OL is at Center. We can get by with Tucker and Shaffer on the right side for another year or two. Fraley starting in 2009 is hard to justify.

    -Al

  • I am quite pleased with this....ESPECIALLY if we did get a 2nd this year & another pick in '09 or '10.

    Kellen has (had) great talent, BUT he.....

    Is NOT a good TEAM player

    Does NOT "choose" to block

    IS injury prone & looking at a short productive career....AND

    I feel he would be gone soon as he becomes a FA, so....

    Why NOT get something for him while value is still there for him. There is a LOT that will be available in the 2nd round this year & I have been worried that Winslow would end up being a very costly mistake for the Browns in the long run.

    The new guys are NOT sitting on their hands & that is a good thing....IMHO, they are off to a fine start.

    Mike

    IN DORSEY I TRUST

  • Get rid of Braylon while you can....or sign him to long term....either or is necessary. In my opinion no way in hell can we sign BE to a long term...he wants OUT of Ohio....trade him to the Giants now , while we can!

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