Border Wall

VaporTrail

@jrb12711 said:

He's not presenting the news in a factual manner though. He's not Scott Pelley recounting the days events in a monotone, neutral regard. He's injecting humor (because he's a comedian) into current events in a comedy show. I really, really don't get how that's hard to understand. Do you consider late night talk show hosts news personalities too? They talk about current events with comedy.

I realize people listen to him and take his stuff at face value, but welcome to the world. People listen to non-authorities on issues all the time.

I would consider Jon Stewart a news personality. I would consider Colbert a news personality.

Browns149

I don't consider Stewert or Colbert news persons.

They make fun of the news.

Sure there are facts in what they do, but it is more about the jokes then it is about the story IMO

The Cysko Kid

They know full well that they are the liberal answer to o'Reilly and beck. They just try and cover their asses by saying "well its just a comedy show"

calfoxwc

Okay, I have a better idea for the wall. Build it, and then coat it with that

glue that they use on fly sticking tape. Let em get stuck on it, and regret

trying to invade our country.

Browns149

@calfoxwc said:

Okay, I have a better idea for the wall. Build it, and then coat it with that

blue that they use on fly sticking tape. Let em get stuck on it, and regret

trying to invade our country.

I like the laser idea better

jrb12711

@vaportrail said:

I would consider Jon Stewart a news personality. I would consider Colbert a news personality.

I'll make you deal. The day Wolf Blitzer or any other mainstream news personality starts injecting hardcore comedy into their line of work, I'll make a video professing how wrong I was. Until then, John Oliver and all those guys you mentioned are comedians (and still not even addressing the late night guys like Fallon, Conan, etc who make comedy out of current events).

Westside Steve

@jrb12711 said:

I'll make you deal. The day Wolf Blitzer or any other mainstream news personality starts injecting hardcore comedy into their line of work, I'll make a video professing how wrong I was. Until then, John Oliver and all those guys you mentioned are comedians (and still not even addressing the late night guys like Fallon, Conan, etc who make comedy out of current events).

C'Mon you've never laughed out loud at Wolf Blitzer kissing the Clinton's asses?

WSS

VaporTrail

@jrb12711 said:

I'll make you deal. The day Wolf Blitzer or any other mainstream news personality starts injecting hardcore comedy into their line of work, I'll make a video professing how wrong I was. Until then, John Oliver and all those guys you mentioned are comedians (and still not even addressing the late night guys like Fallon, Conan, etc who make comedy out of current events).

Here's another deal for you. How about you pull your head out of your ass and admit that one can be both a comedian AND a news personality? Did you see Stewart's interview with the Mad Money guy. He absolutely thrashed him. That certainly wasn't Jon being a comedian.

Browns149

@westside-steve said:

C'Mon you've never laughed out loud at Wolf Blitzer kissing the Clinton's asses?

WSS

I laugh every time I read or here the name Wolf Blitzer

He should be hosting a comedy hour

VaporTrail

@the-cysko-kid said:
They know full well that they are the liberal answer to o'Reilly and beck. They just try and cover their asses by saying "well its just a comedy show"

This is exactly it. Watching Stewart and O'Reilly go toe-to-toe was always an amazing conversation.

jrb12711

@vaportrail said:

Here's another deal for you. How about you pull your head out of your ass and admit that one can be both a comedian AND a news personality? Did you see Stewart's interview with the Mad Money guy. He absolutely thrashed him. That certainly wasn't Jon being a comedian.

I literally saw John Oliver preform a stand-up routine last year. No, I'm not going to admit a touring comedian who calls himself a comedian and hosts a comedy show is a news personality just because he talks about current events.

The Cysko Kid

O'Reilly and Beck aren't "news" personalities either. Their shows are pure opinion shows

The Cysko Kid

That being said people listen to all of them and use their opinions as a base for their (the viewers') own.

VaporTrail

@jrb12711 said:

I literally saw John Oliver preform a stand-up routine last year. No, I'm not going to admit a touring comedian who calls himself a comedian and hosts a comedy show is a news personality just because he talks about current events.

lol

"IT'S NOT A NEWS SHOW! ONLY 30%-50% OF IT IS COMEDY NOT ABOUT CURRENT EVENTS!"

VaporTrail

@the-cysko-kid said:
O'Reilly and Beck aren't "news" personalities either. Their shows are pure opinion shows

If you're gonna argue that, then where do you draw the line? Rachel Maddow has pretty liberal opinions. Is she a news personality or an opinion personality. In this day and age, the margins that separate a news personality from everything else are pretty blurry.

jrb12711

@the-cysko-kid said:
O'Reilly and Beck aren't "news" personalities either. Their shows are pure opinion shows

I don't disagree with you on that.

@vaportrail said:

lol

"IT'S NOT A NEWS SHOW! ONLY 30%-50% OF IT IS COMEDY NOT ABOUT CURRENT EVENTS!"

That's never what I said, and putting it in all caps doesn't change that. I've said 30-50% of his show has nothing to do with current events, and the other half is comedy is about said events. That still makes him a comedian-his official website is John Oliver l The comedian. I get you don't like the guy and if you don't find his humor funny I've never had issues with that, but he's a comedian. The day Scott Pelley creates a fake church and receives giant penis staues in the mail as part of his gag I'll shut the hell right up.

VaporTrail

@jrb12711 said:

I don't disagree with you on that.

That's never what I said, and putting it in all caps doesn't change that. I've said 30-50% of his show has nothing to do with current events, and the other half is comedy is about said events. That still makes him a comedian-his official website is John Oliver l The comedian. I get you don't like the guy and if you don't find his humor funny I've never had issues with that, but he's a comedian. The day Scott Pelley creates a fake church and receives giant penis staues in the mail as part of his gag I'll shut the hell right up.

I have never argued that he wasn't a comedian.

Here's an image that should help you. This is called a Venn diagram. The left circle represents comedians. The right circle represents news personalities. Where they overlap is where you'll find the likes of Oliver, Stewart, Colbert.

bbedward

John Stewart was the best at it, Colbert was good at it. Oliver just sucks at it*

*In my opinion.

bbedward

I guess it loses some charm when you have a British guy and a South African guy talking about US politics.

jrb12711

@vaportrail said:

I have never argued that he wasn't a comedian.

Here's an image that should help you. This is called a Venn diagram. The left circle represents comedians. The right circle represents news personalities. Where they overlap is where you'll find the likes of Oliver, Stewart, Colbert.

You can say the same shit 1000 times and it doesn't change the facts. He's called a comedian, and hosts a comedy show. Your opinion is outweighed by official, objective realities of what people call him and consider him. Political humor is a type of comedy, does that register for you at all? Or are you going to try to fail again to not comment on the objective by attempting a bad stab at questioning intelligence?

Unless of course his own marketing brand, HBO, biography and materials are ALL misinformed and ALL don't see this amazing breakthrough you've had. Unless his own quote from his mouth, "It’s not journalism, it’s comedy—it’s comedy first, and it’s comedy second" is some bold-faced lie to cover up his REAL plan, you're wrong. But I can't wait for you to show me an obtuse triangle with some droll attempt to say I'm wrong again.