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  • C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
    #7

    Better take a QB. Cause i want nick b in 2019

  • Saquan Barkley, Penn State!

    hoortaH hoorta wrote on last edited by
    #8

    @brownsdon-tknowwhy said:

    Saquan Barkley, Penn State!

    Nope. Browns HAVE to take best QB available. Now if they somehow land Cousins, Barkley is in play. 

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
    #9

    trouble is, there is no way Kirk lasts til the second round - I like Ridley better - bigger,  outstanding pass catcher,

    a you can't cover me wr.

    simmie cobbs, no thanks. He's a character problem, drops and doesn't catch passes problem, and has

    an injury history.

  • trouble is, there is no way Kirk lasts til the second round - I like Ridley better - bigger,  outstanding pass catcher,

    a you can't cover me wr.

    simmie cobbs, no thanks. He's a character problem, drops and doesn't catch passes problem, and has

    an injury history.

    W wargograw wrote on last edited by
    #10

    @calfoxwc said:

    trouble is, there is no way Kirk lasts til the second round - I like Ridley better - bigger,  outstanding pass catcher,

    a you can't cover me wr.

    simmie cobbs, no thanks. He's a character problem, drops and doesn't catch passes problem, and has

    an injury history.

    I'll take a gentleman's bet that Kirk will be there in the second round. Want it?

  • Saquan Barkley, Penn State!

    W wargograw wrote on last edited by
    #11

    @brownsdon-tknowwhy said:

    Saquan Barkley, Penn State!

    We already have a back that can run for 2.8 yards/carry.

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
    #12

    Sure, I'll bet you a buck. lol. Kirk is said to be edging out Ridley as the top wr in the draft by some.

    I still like Josh Allen with the first overall pick. He is ACCURATE more than Jackson, more character than

    Rosen, which is easy.... has the size, the bigtime arm, the love for the game, and a lot of mobility. and,

    he's very, very smart as a qb.

    And I'll still go with Ridley with the second pick, which is somewhere around 10-15 I suppose.

  • W wargograw wrote on last edited by
    #13

    I've been saying Kirk's overrated since the middle of last season, and no one here has watched him more than me.

    His PFF grade in the last two games is under 42. 

    He's eclipsed 60 yards just once this season.

    He's on pace for 51 catches (and he is usually targeted 8+ times per game), 600 yards, and 7.5 TDs as a THIRD YEAR starter with a bunch of freshman receivers aroudn him.

  • I've been saying Kirk's overrated since the middle of last season, and no one here has watched him more than me.

    His PFF grade in the last two games is under 42. 

    He's eclipsed 60 yards just once this season.

    He's on pace for 51 catches (and he is usually targeted 8+ times per game), 600 yards, and 7.5 TDs as a THIRD YEAR starter with a bunch of freshman receivers aroudn him.

    T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by TexasAg1969
    #14

    @wargograw said:

    I've been saying Kirk's overrated since the middle of last season, and no one here has watched him more than me.

    His PFF grade in the last two games is under 42. 

    He's eclipsed 60 yards just once this season.

    He's on pace for 51 catches (and he is usually targeted 8+ times per game), 600 yards, and 7.5 TDs as a THIRD YEAR starter with a bunch of freshman receivers aroudn him.

    True. However just like Garrett before him, the defenses are geared at stopping him before any other player on the team.

    EDIT: And like the Browns we had not had great QB play and often miss him with overthrows deep.

  • S SD_Tom wrote on last edited by
    #15

    Not the #1 pick..... But for rb,  what about Josh Adams from ND? Looks like an NFL back from the limited clips I've seen.  

  • D BoneD D Bone wrote on last edited by
    #16

    "......... Ryan Watson - Long Snapper - Humboldt State University" 

  • B BaconHound wrote on last edited by
    #17

    ......Someone who won't make much of a difference

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #18

    I have heard a few commentators say that Mason Rudolph of OK State has the best skills of all QBs coming out that could translate to the pro game.

    Would anyone object to bringing in both Rudolph AND his teammate James Washington both in round 1?

  • The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by The Gipper
    #19

    There may be a few drawbacks to Rudolph.:

    Strengths
    - Appears very accurate with touch 
    - Prototypical size
    - Plenty of arm strength
    - Makes smart decisions with the football
    - Should end his career with over 40 starts to his credit
    - Above-average athlete 


    Weaknesses
    - Plays in a spread scheme
    - Pre-snap responsibility is minimal
    - Smaller hands struggled in the rain

    But you know what his biggest drawback is?   He plays in the Big 12.   And what QBs has the Big 12 produced? A few, but most definitely mediocre at best.  Current Big 12 QBs in the NFL

    Brandon Weeden

    Geno Smith

    Sam Bradford

    Landry Jones

    Trevone Boykin

    Andy Dalton

    Colt McCoy

    Patrick Mahomes

    Anyone else?

    Dalton probably the best.

  • There may be a few drawbacks to Rudolph.:

    Strengths
    - Appears very accurate with touch 
    - Prototypical size
    - Plenty of arm strength
    - Makes smart decisions with the football
    - Should end his career with over 40 starts to his credit
    - Above-average athlete 


    Weaknesses
    - Plays in a spread scheme
    - Pre-snap responsibility is minimal
    - Smaller hands struggled in the rain

    But you know what his biggest drawback is?   He plays in the Big 12.   And what QBs has the Big 12 produced? A few, but most definitely mediocre at best.  Current Big 12 QBs in the NFL

    Brandon Weeden

    Geno Smith

    Sam Bradford

    Landry Jones

    Trevone Boykin

    Andy Dalton

    Colt McCoy

    Patrick Mahomes

    Anyone else?

    Dalton probably the best.

    darren15D darren15 wrote on last edited by
    #20

    @the-gipper said:

    There may be a few drawbacks to Rudolph.:

    Strengths
    - Appears very accurate with touch 
    - Prototypical size
    - Plenty of arm strength
    - Makes smart decisions with the football
    - Should end his career with over 40 starts to his credit
    - Above-average athlete 


    Weaknesses
    - Plays in a spread scheme
    - Pre-snap responsibility is minimal
    - Smaller hands struggled in the rain

    But you know what his biggest drawback is?   He plays in the Big 12.   And what QBs has the Big 12 produced? A few, but most definitely mediocre at best.  Current Big 12 QBs in the NFL

    Brandon Weeden

    Geno Smith

    Sam Bradford

    Landry Jones

    Trevone Boykin

    Andy Dalton

    Colt McCoy

    Patrick Mahomes

    Anyone else?

    Dalton probably the best.

    Another weakness is the red nose....couldn't possibly disguise a handoff

  • @the-gipper said:

    There may be a few drawbacks to Rudolph.:

    Strengths
    - Appears very accurate with touch 
    - Prototypical size
    - Plenty of arm strength
    - Makes smart decisions with the football
    - Should end his career with over 40 starts to his credit
    - Above-average athlete 


    Weaknesses
    - Plays in a spread scheme
    - Pre-snap responsibility is minimal
    - Smaller hands struggled in the rain

    But you know what his biggest drawback is?   He plays in the Big 12.   And what QBs has the Big 12 produced? A few, but most definitely mediocre at best.  Current Big 12 QBs in the NFL

    Brandon Weeden

    Geno Smith

    Sam Bradford

    Landry Jones

    Trevone Boykin

    Andy Dalton

    Colt McCoy

    Patrick Mahomes

    Anyone else?

    Dalton probably the best.

    Another weakness is the red nose....couldn't possibly disguise a handoff

    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
    #21

    @darren15 said:

    Another weakness is the red nose....couldn't possibly disguise a handoff

    But....if it gets foggy on the shores of Lake Erie, that could be a major plus.

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
    #22

    nope. the new qb for the Browns will be Josh Allen. Hogan and Kizer can back him up.

    We passed on Wentz, big colossal mistake - Allen is the Wentz type - just draft him - he's the

    real deal.

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
    #23

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
    #24

    I don't care about the hype over Rosen, Darnold, etc. really dont' care. When I look at film of all the top qb's...

    Allen is my qb if I was going to draft one. He has the Carson Wentz factors - strong arm, touch on the ball, very

    mobile, has that fire, that competitiveness, the leadership, the high football IQ, the instincts, the timing,

    rough tough outstanding kid - multi-sport athletic ...maybe the strongest arm, but the most accurate arm, he extends

    plays naturally - looks off the safeties instinctively - often, he can be looking left, and immediately turn and look

    right, and throw a pass. He throws passes like guided missiles. JOSH ALLEN. Browns first round pick.

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
    #25

    Amazing - Allen even got advice from Carson Wentz ! No wonder I see them being so similar ~

    they BOTH played for the same coach  ...Craig Bohl ! The new Browns qb - JOSH ALLEN

    I watch Allen play, and he does a lot of small things that Kizer never can do. Allen is my

    Carson Wentz can't miss pick.

  • C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
    #26