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All I am saying is that there is no justification to eliminate any potential candidate simply because of some arbitrary status he may hold, be that former HC, college HC, age, whether he coach offense, or defense, etc. etc.
Unless he's already won a super bowl somewhere else because it doesn't happen again with a different franchise.
Unless he's already won a super bowl somewhere else because it doesn't happen again with a different franchise.
It could have, easily. If not for referree intervention, Holmgren could have had a title in Seattle as well as Green Bay.
Six coaches have taken two teams to Super Bowls with 2 different teams:
Don Shula, lost 1 with Colts, won 2 lost 3 with the Dolphins
Dan Reeves, lost 3 with Broncos and lost 1 with Falcons
Bill Parcells, won 2 with Giants, lost 1 with Pats
Holmgren, won 1 lost 1 with Packers, lost 1 with Seattle
finger Vermeil, lost 1 with Eagles, won 1 with Rams
John Fox, lost 1 with Panthers and lost 1 with Denver
What you may be saying actually is.....if you hire a coach that has appeared in a Super Bowl.....make sure he lost it .....as coaches that lost have had more success the second time around, where no one who has won has ever come back to win again: Shula and Vermeil came back to win with a new team, having lost and not won with a previous team.
So, that could mean we could consider these......who have lost SBs but not won: Fox, Jim Caldwell, Ken Whisenhunt, Lovie Smith, Bill Callahan, Mike Martz, Jim Fassell, Jeff Fisher, Bobby Ross, Sam Wyche, etc.
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Unless he's already won a super bowl somewhere else because it doesn't happen again with a different franchise.
It could have, easily. If not for referree intervention, Holmgren could have had a title in Seattle as well as Green Bay.
Six coaches have taken two teams to Super Bowls with 2 different teams:
Don Shula, lost 1 with Colts, won 2 lost 3 with the Dolphins
Dan Reeves, lost 3 with Broncos and lost 1 with Falcons
Bill Parcells, won 2 with Giants, lost 1 with Pats
Holmgren, won 1 lost 1 with Packers, lost 1 with Seattle
finger Vermeil, lost 1 with Eagles, won 1 with Rams
John Fox, lost 1 with Panthers and lost 1 with Denver
What you may be saying actually is.....if you hire a coach that has appeared in a Super Bowl.....make sure he lost it .....as coaches that lost have had more success the second time around, where no one who has won has ever come back to win again: Shula and Vermeil came back to win with a new team, having lost and not won with a previous team.
So, that could mean we could consider these......who have lost SBs but not won: Fox, Jim Caldwell, Ken Whisenhunt, Lovie Smith, Bill Callahan, Mike Martz, Jim Fassell, Jeff Fisher, Bobby Ross, Sam Wyche, etc.
So, that could mean we could consider these......who have lost SBs but not won: Fox, Jim Caldwell, Ken Whisenhunt, Lovie Smith, Bill Callahan, Mike Martz, Jim Fassell, Jeff Fisher, Bobby Ross, Sam Wyche, etc.
That list completely and totally depresses me.
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lmao....Riley makes over 5 million a year now and is likely to bump up to 6.5-7 shortly if they make the playoff.....he proably wouldnt even take the Browns HC ob if offered. The idea that he is going to go from a perfect HC situation at OU to a coordinator job anywhere in the nfl is absurd.
And tell me how or when I remotely said he would? I swear to God, some of you mofos just love posting dramatic crap because you love how panties feel bunched up in your butt.
Yes wise guy I understand he wouldn't take an OC job. I was simply stating that ideally I'd want to see Riley succeed offensively in the NFL like McVay did before taking the plunge. We've seen too many wonder coaches from the NCAA ranks (Chip Kelly anyone?) fall flat on their faces. I don't think the Browns can afford to take that risk.
And tell me how or when I remotely said he would? I swear to God, some of you mofos just love posting dramatic crap because you love how panties feel bunched up in your butt.
Yes wise guy I understand he wouldn't take an OC job. I was simply stating that ideally I'd want to see Riley succeed offensively in the NFL like McVay did before taking the plunge. We've seen too many wonder coaches from the NCAA ranks (Chip Kelly anyone?) fall flat on their faces. I don't think the Browns can afford to take that risk.
ummm...so whats the point of posting that then? Since there is no chance in hell he would ever go that path now....at least you should have phrased it "I WOULD HAVE wanted....."
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And a possibility to come back to Cleveland?
Seems like I just heard the talking heads on the radio say they loved him in Minnesota.
WSS
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And tell me how or when I remotely said he would? I swear to God, some of you mofos just love posting dramatic crap because you love how panties feel bunched up in your butt.
Yes wise guy I understand he wouldn't take an OC job. I was simply stating that ideally I'd want to see Riley succeed offensively in the NFL like McVay did before taking the plunge. We've seen too many wonder coaches from the NCAA ranks (Chip Kelly anyone?) fall flat on their faces. I don't think the Browns can afford to take that risk.
ummm...so whats the point of posting that then? Since there is no chance in hell he would ever go that path now....at least you should have phrased it "I WOULD HAVE wanted....."
ummm...so whats the point of posting that then? Since there is no chance in hell he would ever go that path now....at least you should have phrased it "I WOULD HAVE wanted....."
My exact quote is " I'd want to see Riley start as an OC in the NFL at least a year before jumping head first into that situation. " Perhaps you never learned about contractions in school, but "I'd" in that sentence means "I would". Grammar is fun!
The point is provide a counterargument to a popular opinion on a head coach as conversation on a football forum. Hey bud, nice try though.
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Isn’t he teamed up with Pet there?
Isn’t he teamed up with Pet there?
Pet is in Green Bay isnt he ?
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Isn’t he teamed up with Pet there?
Pet is in Green Bay isnt he ?
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Isn’t he teamed up with Pet there?
Pet is in Green Bay isnt he ?
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Why would you trade for someone you can talk to at the end of the season for free .... I would want to have someone who wanted to be here not made to be here via a trade
ESPN Cleveland @ESPNCleveland 4m4 minutes ago
ESPN Cleveland@ESPNClevelandFlorio says not to discount the possibility that the Browns could trade for their next head coach. Who is the favorite? Mike says Josh McDaniels.MoreFlorio says not to discount the possibility that the Browns could trade for their next head coach. Who is the favorite? Mike says Josh McDaniels.
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Why would you trade for someone you can talk to at the end of the season for free .... I would want to have someone who wanted to be here not made to be here via a trade
ESPN Cleveland @ESPNCleveland 4m4 minutes agoESPN Cleveland@ESPNClevelandFlorio says not to discount the possibility that the Browns could trade for their next head coach. Who is the favorite? Mike says Josh McDaniels.MoreFlorio says not to discount the possibility that the Browns could trade for their next head coach. Who is the favorite? Mike says Josh McDaniels.
Why would you trade for someone you can talk to at the end of the season for free .... I would want to have someone who wanted to be here not made to be here via a trade
Florio says not to discount the possibility that the Browns could trade for their next head coach. Who is the favorite? Mike says Josh McDaniels.
McDaniels is the HC in waiting of the Patriots. When BB and TB are done, he takes over. He is only just now 42.
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Why would you trade for someone you can talk to at the end of the season for free .... I would want to have someone who wanted to be here not made to be here via a trade
Florio says not to discount the possibility that the Browns could trade for their next head coach. Who is the favorite? Mike says Josh McDaniels.
McDaniels is the HC in waiting of the Patriots. When BB and TB are done, he takes over. He is only just now 42.
McDaniels is the HC in waiting of the Patriots. When BB and TB are done, he takes over. He is only just now 42.
I agree. I really don't see him leaving New England. I would also think that teams will be a bit gun shy with him after last year.
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McDaniels is the HC in waiting of the Patriots. When BB and TB are done, he takes over. He is only just now 42.
I agree. I really don't see him leaving New England. I would also think that teams will be a bit gun shy with him after last year.
I agree. I really don't see him leaving New England. I would also think that teams will be a bit gun shy with him after last year.
I certainly would be VERY gun shy regarding Josh. As far as his staying in New England? Not so sure about that given Brady's age & a lack of a successor to him.
Mike
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You would think if the local boy Josh McDaniels was ever interested in being the HC of the Browns, he would have spoken up the three times the job was available in the last five+ years.
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You would think if the local boy Josh McDaniels was ever interested in being the HC of the Browns, he would have spoken up the three times the job was available in the last five+ years.
You would think if the local boy Josh McDaniels was ever interested in being the HC of the Browns, he would have spoken up the three times the job was available in the last five+ years.
Yep...I don't think he's going anywhere. One NFL insider on the radio said DiFillipo is definitely going to get a look at the end of the season.
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