USC may still be forced to forfeit past victories in the still on going investigation of Reggie Bush. If it is found he took monay and rented a house for free he will lose his Heisman as well.Carroll to the Seahags is a done deal according to ESPN's Adam Shefter, I think it is 5 yrs for $35 million. Awaiting minority candidate interview for the Rooney rule to make it official.
Fail
the Heisman committee can revoke his trophy neither can the NCAA
New ManagementPresident of football operations - Mike Holmgren
GM - Tom Heckert
Retained Coaches
HC: Eric Mangini
DC: Rob Ryan
OC: Brian Dabol (Unfortunately I think he stays)
already been announced he stays
Risigned/Renegotiated
Josh Cribbs
Lawrence Vickers
D. Jackson
Brodney Pool
Phil Dawson
Jerome Harrison
A. Elam
Matt Roth
Fail
Trade: QB: Derek Anderson & Pick 5-3 (From TB, K2 trade) For RB: Michael Bush Raiders ( The raiders need a QB and while Derek Anderson really isnβt that good neither is Charlie Frye or Bruce Gradkowski and atleast DA has a big arm which Al Davis will like.)
nobody not even the raiders want Anderson
Free Agents:
QB: Kellen Clemens, New York Jets The Browns decide to part ways with Anderson and they need a backup QB. So why not sign another Jet?
fail
TE: Tony Scheffler, Denver Broncos While Matt More came in and did a good job during the end of the year Schefller is an elite tight end who can block and would immediately upgrade our passing offense which is drastically needed.
fail
RT: Alex Barron, Rams I think we will all agree that the browns need a new right tackle because well St. Clair sucks. Considering a lot of quality tackles are available in free agency the Browns decide to sign Barron instead of spending a pick on a right tackle.
RFA
ILB/OLB: Derrick Johnson, Kansas City Chiefs Was benched this year and has had a bad relationship with new coach Tod Haley. Johnson was up for trade during the beginning of the year and should be available in free agency. It would be interesting to see what Rob Ryan could do with his talent.
overrated fail
1-7 Joe Haden, Florida CB
Height: 5-11. Weight: 185.
Projected 40 Time: 4.43.
Projected Round (2010): Top 10 Pick.
2-7 Cameron Heyward*, Ohio State
Height: 6-6. Weight: 287.
Projected 40 Time: 4.93.
Projected Round (2010): 1-2. DE
not in the draft epic fail
3-7 Mike Johnson, Alabama Guard
Height: 6-6. Weight: 305.
Projected 40 Time: 5.20.
Projected Round (2009): 2-3.
wont be around in the 3rd fail
3-20 (From the Jets BE trade) Marshawn Gilyard, Cincinnati WR
Height: 6-1. Weight: 180.
Projected 40 Time: 4.45.
Projected Round (2010): 3-4.
4-7 Kyle Calloway, Iowa Tackle
Height: 6-7. Weight: 315.
Projected 40 Time: 5.22.
Projected Round (2010): 3-4.
5-7 Colin Peek, Alabama TE
Height: 6-6. Weight: 255.
Projected 40 Time: 4.79.
Projected Round (2010): 4-5.
Fail
5-20 (From the Jets, BE trade) Jordan Lake, Baylor FS
Height: 6-2. Weight: 205.
Projected 40 Time: 4.56.
Projected Round (2010): 4-5.
fail
6-7 Dan LeFevour, Central Michigan QB
Height: 6-3. Weight: 226.
Projected 40 Time: 4.80.
Projected Round (2010): 6-7.
will be long gone another epic fail
7-7 Jerome Murphy, South Florida CB
Height: 6-1. Weight: 185.
Projected 40 Time: 4.39.
Projected Round (2010): 6-7.
wont even be drafted 3rd epic fail
7-14 (From Carolina, Louis Leonard trade) Barry Church, Toledo SS
Height: 6-2. Weight: 219.
Projected 40 Time: 4.58.
Projected Round (2010): 5-6
Depth Chart:
QB: Brady Quinn/Kellen Clemens/ Dan LeFevour
FB: Lawrence Vickers
RB: Jerome Harrison/ Michael Bush /James Davis
TE: Tony Scheffler /Evan Moore/ Colin Peek
LT: Joe Thomas/ Floyd Womack
LG: Eric Steinback/ Mike Johnson
Alex Mack/Hank Fraley
RG: Rex Hadnot/ Mike Johnson
RT: Alex Barron/ Kyle Calloway
WR: MoMass/Josh Cribbs
WR: Brian Robiskie/ Marshawn Gilyard /Mike Furrey
DE: Cameron Heyward /Robaire Smith/C.J. Mosely
NT: Shaun Rogers/ Atyha Rubin
DE: Corey Williams/Kenyon Coleman
OLB: Kamerion Wimbley/Alex Hall
ILB: Derrick Johnson /David Bowens/David Veikune
ILB: D'Qwell Jackson/Eric Barton/Kaluka Maivia
OLB: Matt Roth/Jason Trusnik
CB: Eric Wright/Brandon McDonald/ Mike Adams
CB: Joe Haden /Coy Francies/ Jerome Murphy
S: Brodney Pool/ Barry Church
S: Abe Elam/ Jordan Lake
KR: Josh Cribbs / Marshawn Gilyard
PR: Josh Cribbs / Marshawn Gilyard
K: Phil Dawson
P: Dave Zastudil
New Offensive Players 9
New Defensive Players 6
New ST Players 1 (Cribbs insurance)
Roster=Fail
Steeler SChuck said:
Cribbs realizes he has a conflict of interest.He's likely the only stains player with a future, and he's still a stains player - hence the conflict.
Regards
....an'at
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you forgot about joe thomas you know the guy that owns Harrison every time they play
Alex Mack is probably already a top 10 C in the NFL, Thomas is easilly the best LT in the NFL
Do you even watch the games? Or do you just ignore the all aspects of the game other than kick returns? Cribbs added a whole new element to the offense this year. He also has either led or been among the leaders in special teams tackles for the last 3 seasons now! He is only going to get better as a receiver and running back and whatever else his future team has him do!not likley. Fail
He loves Cleveland, loves playing for the Browns, and loves the fans! And the fans love him! He IS the face of the team! Outside of Joe Thomas, he is the best player on the team!
cool hes not better then Shaun Rogers and that wont put points on the scoreboard or W in the schedule. Fail
And he is ALREADY the all-time leader in KR TD's. How many catches did our receivers have this year?
MoMass 34 catches 624 Yds 3 TD
Harrison 34 220 2
Furrey 23 170 0
CRIBBS 20 135 1
Stuckey 19 198 1
Cribbs held his own there. It was spread out quite nicely for what we had. Our QB's didn't exactly light it up to ANY receiver. Braylon had more catches AFTER being traded than any of our receivers had.
yawn 1 TD nuff said i never said any of our other WR played well so i dont see your point. Fail
As far as rushing the ball goes.
Harrison 194 carries 862 Yds 5 TD 4.4 YPC
Lewis 143 500 0 3.5
Jennings 63 220 1 3.5
CRIBBS 55 381 1 6.9
I like Cribbs' numbers there too!
wow what a tool you know absolutley nothing about football
Again, our offense was stale for the first half or more of the season. Cribbs and Harrison combined to ignite it late. Imagine the numbers if we had a real OC for a full season!
And your argument about DA? 10 carries 8 yds 2 TD .8 YPC....No, he's NOT a RB too! Quinn was better than him there too...20 carries 98 yds 1 TD 4.9 YPC.
If you still think Cribbs is just a returner, despite the FACTS, then you are ignorant!
the only FACT that matters is touchdown sorry buddy but im 100% correct he is one of the worst players on the team if you take away what he did on ST 100% proven fact
absoltuley horrible post. you should just never post again
Word is he broke his collarbone. Yeah, he's a puss.Moron.
right thats why he's comming in?
he didnt break anything
he's just soft
Dawgfanforever88 said:
Friend of mine in the real estate says that Josh Cribbs just sold his house in Strongsville.
chances are your freind is wrong or just messing with you
HOLMGREM- think a great hire FINALLY the browns did something rightMANGINI- why i can live with it im not sure another yr was deserved,he mismanaged the qb situation,played lewis who skills were oviously gone over harrison among some other things.
DABOLL- I cant believe he is returning his playcalling stinks they should went after weiss hard
CRIBBS SITUATION- why i can understand hes underpaid SO WHAT so are many other people in life fact is he signed a contract!!! I think browns if gonna redo contract should offer 2 million a season if josh his agent refuse it DONT GIVE IN TO HIS TRADE DEMANDS instead tell him FINE honor the contract you signed or retire. PERSONALLY my opinion differs from many im starting to see josh as a CRYBABY . WHY he whines how bad browns have done him has he forgotten THE BROWNS are who gave him a chance when nobody else did! YES hes a great returner but lets be honest he stinks at wr yet trys compare himself to hester. BOTTOM LINE STOP YOUR CRYING JOSH if your so upset retire go out in real world get a job and then youll realize JUST HOW LUCKY YOU ARE!!!!
another year was definatley deserved
Wiess already accepted a OC spot in KC so it wasnt possible
if we trade him (which we wont) but if we do where would you like to see him traded?
id like to send him to Detroit
reasons:
Bad team probably not going to win a championship in his career
NFC team
Detroit is a horrible place to live
they are barley over the cap and wouldnt be able to give him the contract money we offered
suns said:
Cody plays like Shaun rogers.
thanks for the laugh
maybe the overweight lazy shaun rogers from detroit
but he wont have the success in the NFL he does in college
i dont see the fasination in Cody
he's way too big and wont kep staying under weight, way to slow and not agile at all
this isnt a story
every player cleans out his locker
every player says goodbye to the med staff after the year since they change every year or 2
same with Equipment guys
Cribbs said the Browns' $1.4 million a year offer feels "like I've been betrayed and stabbed in the back. I'm not just insulted by the number, but by the fact they consider me just a kick returner. I'm so much more than that.''
Cribbs said based on the "take it or leave it offer'' he's not at all optimistic about being back and that he'll most likely demand a trade in the near future.
"There's no way I'll play another down for the Browns without the new contract,'' he said. "They won't let me sit, because I have value. They'd be forced to trade me.''
also this part just shows how much of a jackass he really is
he is just a KR he had 20 catches for 185 yards and 1 TD and had 350 Rush yards for 1 TD
Derek Anderson had more Rushing TDs does that mean we should consider him more then a QB?
lawrence Vickers had 1 reciving TD does that mean we should consider him more then a FB?
he has done nothing in his career ever outside of being a KR
c-dawg said:
The only thing closed is your mind brother.Cuz Peyton throws to himself, Fred Taylor blocks for himself and Javon Kearse outmaneuvers the Oline all by himself. Oh yeah, and they coached themselves too and called all their own plays. Right.
"Individual on their own" is generally an impossibility in football, except for things like yards after a catch. It's a team sport there sport.
I notice you love to try to curtail discussions when you think you have a trump card. I don't think you are playing with a full deck, however.
Also, you said: "exept that logic has a huge flaw, by your logic Dan Marino never made an impact in the NFL"
Again, Dan Marino hasn't played in the last decade which was the point to JoeSixPat's challenge. Can you even focus or do you not know what decade means?
Rings=team
impact=individual
fact
discussion over
deal with it
in your opinion=Dan Marino=not a good QB since he doesnt have any rings
thats says it allabout what little you know about football
c-dawg said:
The only thing closed is your mind brother.Cuz Peyton throws to himself, Fred Taylor blocks for himself and Javon Kearse outmaneuvers the Oline all by himself. Oh yeah, and they coached themselves too and called all their own plays. Right.
"Individual on their own" is generally an impossibility in football, except for things like yards after a catch. It's a team sport there sport.
I notice you love to try to curtail discussions when you think you have a trump card. I don't think you are playing with a full deck, however.
Also, you said: "exept that logic has a huge flaw, by your logic Dan Marino never made an impact in the NFL"
Again, Dan Marino hasn't played in the last decade which was the point to JoeSixPat's challenge. Can you even focus or do you not know what decade means?
Rings=team
impact=individual
fact
discussion over
deal with it
in your opinion=Dan Marino=not a good QB since he doesnt have any rings
thats says it allabout what little you know about football
Yes Cribbs made a mistake by signing that contract which did not seem like a mistake at the time. Right now though Cribbs has proven to us and everyone that he deserves to be making more money. You can't be serious with the doubling of his salary 1.4 millions in the NFL thats chump change and everyone knows it. Free agent or not Holmgren would be better served by paying this man what he deserves immediately.
or what? Cribbs cant do anything but ruin his career he pretty much has to take what the browns offer him or chances are his career is done because just because he demands a trade doesnt mean it will happen
We have the cap space and the guy is a true football player.2.5 is reasonable and affordable for a guy that can be a game breaker and makes as many big plays as he does and did all season..if he is not a WR then go get one..Having Josh Cribbs on our team is an asset period.
PAY HIM by giving negociating a larger signing bonus ..a little more on the salary and move on... we've certainly paid more for less talent in the past
if he's just going to be a STer then he should get paid STer money which is about 1-1.5 mil max
Cribbs is also asking for more then the 2,5 you mentioned
c-dawg said:
Thaak. I defined impact for my reply. What's your definition? Stick your neck out too. Naysaying is too easy and I thought you were above that from your other posts. I have been wrong before though.You haven't listed three players from the last ten years (or even from the same conference) either. Play JoeSixPat's game right.
And, yes, by my criteria Ward outranks Moss, doesn't he? Count the rings, that's why people play the game, not individual stats. The Steelers definitely agree Ward had more impact. Oh, yeah, you picked a SB MVP for your example, talk about impact.
In fairness to Moss he did put the Pats up with 2:50 to go in LXII before Eli got lucky.
So, to compare apples and apples, I think you should go find three guys from the same college conference who excelled at their positions with more rings for the last decade. No fair listing long snappers.
Otherwise define what you mean by impact so that I might have access to where you are coming from.
Also, ridiculous? Up your ass with ridiculous. Or maybe you could just shove that fish in your avatar up there.
Rings=TEAM accomplishment with FO, Coaching and great players all around
Impact=Individual on their own
argument over case closed
c-dawg said:
Thaak. I defined impact for my reply. What's your definition? Stick your neck out too. Naysaying is too easy and I thought you were above that from your other posts. I have been wrong before though.You haven't listed three players from the last ten years (or even from the same conference) either. Play JoeSixPat's game right.
And, yes, by my criteria Ward outranks Moss, doesn't he? Count the rings, that's why people play the game, not individual stats. The Steelers definitely agree Ward had more impact. Oh, yeah, you picked a SB MVP for your example, talk about impact.
In fairness to Moss he did put the Pats up with 2:50 to go in LXII before Eli got lucky.
So, to compare apples and apples, I think you should go find three guys from the same college conference who excelled at their positions with more rings for the last decade. No fair listing long snappers.
Otherwise define what you mean by impact so that I might have access to where you are coming from.
Also, ridiculous? Up your ass with ridiculous. Or maybe you could just shove that fish in your avatar up there.
Rings=TEAM accomplishment with FO, Coaching and great players all around
Impact=Individual on their own
argument over case closed
c-dawg said:
Impact for me ultimately means championships. The list BuckeyeBest2 gave has far less rings than JoeSixPat's list. Joe's list has had more impact.
exept that logic has a huge flaw
by your logic Dan Marino never made an impact in the NFL
Read the 4th paragraph that is quoting Weiss
cool
per yesterday its already done
NFLNetwork also confirmed it yesterday and today
