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You're right. They should go after every big name on the market. The skins have it correct. Hell, I think they should sign em all before the actual FA starts tomorrow at 6pm too. Screw the rules and screw building through the draft. Who needs a team built the right way when you can have a one hit wonder team and maybe make the playoffs only to be knocked out by the third loss to Pitt! Right on OP!
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I am currently looking at a Kimber and a Colt. Both around the same price. Just going off of what you know about the two, which would you go with and why? I am afraid that I would end up paying for the Colt name over the Kimber quality. Just curious your opinion.
I don't agree with the black QB thing. Moon was unreal.......and all ben does, hate to admit this, is win. Mcnabb brought it on himself with the stupid comments after choking, again. Vince is a headcase.
Win and bring home a trophy or two, no problems. Be one of the best and no problems. Quinn was made fun of too. Leaf? LOL!
He is afraid Mr Rooney is going to tell the refs.......
Why is it that everytime I turn on the television I can see or hear a black guy calling a white guy cracker, honkey, white trash, white boy, and its ok? Hell, most of the time they even add a laugh track to it so the small minded people watching think it's funny.Gotta love America. It's the only place on earth where blacks can be racist towards whites and whites are forced to accept it.
I wonder what would happen if I wrote an article and refered to a group of black football players as a batch of brownies? Would I be labeled a racist even though they call us crackers and such? I mean if it's ok for them to pick a derogatory word that describes the white race then why isnt it ok for whites to do the same?
Does anyone know where the term cracker came from? At first I thought it was because of the color but they have dark crackers to so that doesn't work. Ive also heard that in the old days the slaves would call the man who stood in the field holding a whip "the cracker" becuase of the cracking sound it made when he used it but I dont know if thats true either. If it is then they are only degrading themselves everytime they say it so that doesn't make sense.
Although this is a VERY touchy subject, I have half black children. Ex was black, obviously, and I try to teach them from what Martin Luther said, not what the world presents now. Dont judge by color, but from character.
Either way, you are spot on with how you feel, and again, I am teaching my children the same. Racism is still alive because people wont LET it die, and mostly from the people YELLING racism every day. People no longer live in fear of racism, they hide behind their color and say thats why bad things happen to them. I get so sick of it.
Anywho, before anyone goes off, everyone is created equal, whether you believe in creation or not, it is what it is.
BWAAA HA HA HA HA H AH AHA HA HA HA HA HA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAA! Owned....
Oh, and who is ccdbrowns by the way?
Shurmur said "process" a WHOLE lot today in his presser. LOL! Here it goes again. "its a process" was the BIGGEST thing everyone held against Mangini. I cant wait for the first legit "FIRE SHURMUR" post. 
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Hillis-iz-Boss said:
All I am going to say on this is I guarantee the same people who called for Mangini's head will be calling for the new guys head after one season if he doesn't take this team to the playoffs and that's not fair. A coach should get more than 2 years except for cases like McDaniels where he did everything he could to get fired.Can can spout all you want about improvement is in the record, but you are a moron if couldn't see that this team was far improved over last season and that we didn't start playing bad until after alot of our play makers were injured. Hell our whole right side of the o line and most of our defensive leaders went on IR. I don't blame coaches for injuries. I hope this new coach can do great things with our current team with a solid draft and good FA pick ups, and he will have my support for at least 3 years to show us what he can do because this whole 1-2 year bullshit needs to stop.
I wish you could push the Thanks button more than once......
If W-L is the end all be all, then answer the questions. Could a lesser team have a better W-L record if more healthy and in an easier schedule than a better team with a worse record in a much harder schedule with more injuries? That's isn't possible huh?
Second part, really? Heart surgery compared to building a football team? LOL! Immediate results compared to the time it takes to build a football team. But then, that's the problem isn't it? Browns fans expect immediate results, it will NEVER happen until the roster is fixed.
This constant crying is exhausting, how did you guys do it for 2 whole years?
In the end, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE FREAKIN WIN ALREADY!
I didnt like the mangini hire from the start...Am I glad hes gone?...yes...Do I hate the guy?...No!..I just hate his style of coaching...hes a gameday moron. And no dufus I didnt say Holmgren didnt hire his guy...would you expect him to hire someone that did not agree with his philosphy on the game?...Dont be naive...If your hoping for losses for the new HC you dont deserve to be anymore a fan than I am...Fandom of a team isnt something you wear like clothes and you decide to take it off cuz you decided you dont like the color.
100% agree with the bold, hence my problem with this whole thing.
The way the Cowboys were playing under Wade Phillips, they were losing, losing, losing. The way they were playing under Jason Garrett they won more than they lost. So you tell me who will win in a 10 game series and I will say, it depends, but in the end the score is the only factor in determining the winner. What did Garrett REALLY change? Was it his shirt, his shorts, his hair, the play calling, the defense.......?????? Something, in the firing of Wade Phillips, caused that team to change from one week to another.Why were the Browns able to beat the Pats and Saints, but yet lost to lesser teams right after that?
The undefeated Pats didn't win because they lost the SB, hence they didn't go undefeated. A 1-0 team is undefeated and will remain so until they lose their first game.
Undefeated doesn't mean the best since the Super Bowl is used to determine the best (aka Champion) for that year. A fighter can win every round and get knocked out in the final round and still lose.
Seattle won, because on that day for that playoff game, they had a higher score.
Colt, like Mangini, doesn't personally win or lose any given game because it is not a one person sport. The team has a record and you can associate that team record to when the person was playing or coaching but it isn't HIS personal win or loss despite how the media and statistics people try to spin it. Can Colt have a loss in a game while other Brown players win that same game?
Get this right, I think Colt is the future QB. But to say that the W-L record is all anyone should go on with Mangini is like saying Colt sucks because his W-L record sucks. Why doesnt the NFL make the team with the best W-L record the champs then, instead of a team with a lesser W-L record that happens to beat the other team with the better W-L record? What do you think could be the cause of that? Injuries maybe? Strength of schedule maybe? Maybe the Pats had an easier schedule?
Why did AZ go completely down the drain with the same coaches? Losing their starting QB? Hmmm....the backups and depth wasnt that good? (DA, nuff said) You think that MAYBE that played into the entire season with the Browns? You think the Browns in the NFC would have had a better record? Hmmmm, so many things that need to go into the end result here. IF the Browns would have just plain gotten blown out of the water every loss, I would see your point and agree, they didnt, they improved on virtually every statistic WITH A MUCH HARDER SCHEDULE! What does that tell you? Try it, overlooking the W-L record, what does that tell you?
Mike Holmgren is not that type of guy first of all..secondly...the underacheiving bonehead gameday coach Mangini is gone...just accept it and quit your whinning...Holgren wanted guys that runs what he believes in...get over it...the sooner you do that...you'll feel much better...now take a stool softner and relax!
Again I ask, why should I? All the "anti-Mangini" hoping for losses so he would be finally gone out of the NFL guys wouldnt. Now that you guys got what you want you want people to be quiet and accept it? LOL! No chance bro, I SHOULD hope for losses so Shurmur is finally fired and we can find a good HC, just like the haters did. I love the Browns too much for that though unfortunately. Year after year, same old crap, same old loud Browns "fans" getting everything they want with their impatience, thinking the high ups dont listen to them. LOL! Yeah, ok. Lerner is the biggest knee jerk owner moron in the NFL, its sickening.
And youre saying that Holmgren DIDNT hire "his guy" who is signed by "his agent" just like the REST OF THE FO? LOL! Ok then.
Exactly, u made my point perfect. I pimped hard for gruden and wanted him to come here. I am here now saying I was dead wrong on him. I, unlike you have moved past the firing of mangina and hiring of pat shurmur..Tell me this hot shot.. if mangina is such a good coach why didn't he even interview for another coaching job?
I feel sorry for you man..
How many interviews has Shurmur EVER had there big boy?
I feel really good.. mangini is gone... I have ben singing for the last ten days "ding dong the witch is dead"Its crazy that you know so much about football... yet mangini was fired, like I said he would. I'm pretty sure heckert and holmgren know more about football than me.. so ipso fact I know more about football than u
LOL! THATS where you are taking it? HAHAHA! Tell me big boy, what HAS worked in Cleveland? You KNEW Gruden was going to sign with the Browns, you KNEW his son. Oh, Im sure you know so much, but youre on a board talking about a W-L record not taking anything into consideration. ONLY REASON Holmgren fired Mangini was because he wasnt "his boy." Signed by "his agent." Give me a break bro.........thinking ALL those people that have you on ignore have the right idea. Good luck numbnuts, hope your W-L record is better this year, would HATE for you to start crying again. HAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA!
New HC, wants HIS guys, install HIS playbook, all new coordinators wanting to do things THEIR way. This isnt even a real HC, he is a puppet, what a joke. Expect BELOW .500 this year bud, even with the MUCH EASIER SCHEDULE! LOL!
