@kosar_for_president said: Gay. I would rather have 5 BMW's and 7 Honda Civics. Right now we have 2 BMW's and 10 Civics. Even gay'er that you cant add...

I knew that most Browns are Retarded!!!!! HELLO....GIVE THE GUY SOME ROIDS AND WE HAVE A ALL-PRO LINEBACKER FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS UNTIL HE GETS CAUGHT DAAAAAAA.... How hard is that to figure out!!!!! juice him up lets go!!!!!

@sisky-fringo said:there might be a mismatch against a LB or average safety, but put a good corner on him and he's probably neutralized. the coaches aren't dumb. Say that about Austin Collie, Wes Welker.. Anyone remember Brian Brennan.. Guy was our clutch 3rd down receiver... Never wore gloves, even on the coldest day, and never dropped a ball... (well almost never) A very well run route and a well timed pass will be a DB. I've said it before, our QB's have got to throw the ball... You have to throw the ball and you have to catch it.. if you don't throw it.. you can't catch it. Not every thrown ball is going to be perfect and a WR isn't always going to leave his DB in the dust... You sometimes have to throw it up and let the WR make a play.. and right now.. I think our passing game is not taking enough chances and letting the WR's make plays...

I am sure that personnel departments haven't given up on this guy for no reason but it sure would be nice to at least take him for a test drive....put him in the game run him deep and see how he affects the defense. He'll probably demand single coverage until he can demonstrate that he can get open and catch. We have nothing to lose. He has an ability that we lack. Anything he provides in a 3 or 4 wide set is gravy. As far as Robo goes, anybody with that kind of lineage (athletically and parentally) who can't be a legit #2 has "doesn't want to" written all over him. I can't prove that obviously but it just seems that he passes many eyeball tests but never makes the grade. I wonder how much is from the neck up.

More Defense ..... Linebacker Scott Fujita. In back-to-back games, Fujita has registered a sack and forced fumble on the same play. First, it was a sack of Carson Palmer and fumble recovery by Kenyon Coleman that set up a Dawson field goal in the Browns’ 23-20 win over the Cincinnati Bengals two weeks ago. Then, in this past week’s game against the Falcons, Fujita brought down Matt Ryan early in the second half and forced another fumble. Coleman again recovered the ball and it resulted in another Dawson field goal. Fujita is second on the team with 27 total tackles. He has 2.5 sacks for 24 lost yards and forced a team-high two fumbles. Defensive lineman Kenyon Coleman. In the last two weeks, Coleman has recovered a team-leading three fumbles. He has registered one sack and 17 total tackles, including 14 solo stops this season. Linebacker Marcus Benard. The Browns’ leader in sacks with 3.5 through five games this season, Benard had a nice introduction to the Steelers rivalry last December. He registered two sacks of Roethlisberger in the Browns’ 13-6 win on a bitterly cold night at Cleveland Browns Stadium in front of a national television audience. Defensive lineman Brian Schaefering. When the Browns and Steelers met last December, Schaefering was playing in just his second career game. However, he made quite an impact with five total tackles and 1.5 sacks on Roethlisberger. (Hey Zippy & Roachmstr, ya gotta love the Defense talk on here this season ... beats those pansy ass QB fags we dragged through the streets last year).

nmills said:We dont kick field goals, we score touchdowns This is news to me... btw, they have him last because statistically he was since he was injured most of last season.

@silverback said:Here is a much funnier recent video of a Cleveland fan.... That's not a Cleveland fan.......that's Rothlesberger after he found out he's suspended for the first 6 games!

Well, let's ask this question: How good is he? I am not that familiar with him.

Sivlerback DPOY said:Ben's not being punished for a claim. Ben is also not being punished for potentially engaging in sexual activity with an of aged woman. Ben is being punished for getting drunk and causing problems at a bar. (problems completely unrelated to the rape charge and that woman in general) Allen got drunk and caused trouble at a bar. It has brought bad publicity to the league. Goodell wants players to be held to a "higher standard" - I think that would include threating to injury/kill other people. Him using the word "homeboy" should be an automaticle $5,000 fine.... But in all seriousness, why shouldn't he face similiar punishment to Ben? oh bullshit The only reason BR is not getting prosectured is that he got the victim black out drunk and can play the he said, she sai.d A District Attorney does not call someone a reprehensible turd if its a case of gold digger. That is why BR is not fighting this. In fact, every morning he wakes up and is suprised that he's not in some pound me in the ass prison. (other than pittsburg, that is)

I didnt put that much thought to picks outside of the top ten, but my reasoning for each pick is as follows: 1. rams - i dont kno how they can afford to not draft bradford when they just cut bulger and it is an absolute need. A o lineman is a strong possibility too but i have a gut feeling its bradford unless someone trades up for him 2. lions - with the additions of kvb and corey williams, d line isnt a huge need, stafford got beat up and they absolutely need someone to protect him. im not saying suh or mccoy isnt a possibility but if they had any common sense they need a o lineman 3. tb - DT, its a lock, it just depends which they prefer 4. was - mcnabb to me means clausen isnt the guy they want, i think they go o line and prepare for a jake locker or ryan mallett next year, they wont spend the money on a dt when haynesworth is the highest paid one in the nfl. 5. kc - it all comes down to this pick for the browns, with the chiefs drafting tamba hali, glenn dorsey, and tyson jackson the past few years, i dont kno how they spend the money on yet another d lineman. so it comes down to 2 possibilities, cassel gets paid alot so i dont think they r going qb, which means its a LT or berry, i want them to take a lineman but i dont kno what they will do, from a logical stand point, cassel got hit alot, fix the line, cassel gets hit less; but do they love berry enough to find a lineman later, that i dont kno. 6. sea - whichever dt doesnt get picked by tb will get picked here, they need a dt, again berry is a possibility but i dont kno how they would let mccoy or suh slip past. 7. CLE - if berry is there i think its a lock, if not then i doubt clausen is an option, i think fujita knocked out the chances of mcclain being a possibity, haden i severely doubt, so that leaves dez bryant or trade down, i wish i could say i knew but i have no idea what they would do

@ballpeen said:With no west coast teams visiting, I agree, it will be a series of 1 pm kickoffs more than likely. The best bet is one of the division games gets kicked to 4pm(small chance) or one of the games gets designated for a Sunday night kick-off....maybe a fair chance of that, but that could just as easily be a road game. Maybe if we have a bash weekend, we all chip in to rent a van to lug us around and take us back to the hotel, no matter which hotel or where we live for the local guys. You guys have seen the downtown lights a few times. Maybe stay out near where Stan and crew live and do it that way That might well be a good idea Ballpeen, I'll talk it through with the G Man.

code for neither will be here next yr.....and as much as I want to say how bad Brady Quinn is I cant because I need to trade him.

1 -CJ Spiller RB Clemson ,2-Brandon Ghee CB Wake Forest,3-Kyle Calloway OT Iowa;Major Wright S Florida,4-Marcus Easley WR Connecticut

@hoorta said:Well Manning looks pretty good when he just sits in the pocket and tears defenses apart, no? One thing in didn't pay attention to is how quick is LeFevour's release? IMHO there's damn few qbs in the league that have good accuracy when they're running for their lives. Rothlisberger, and who else? It's kind of hard to compare LeFevour and Manning, they have two different styles of play. Manning is an offensive wizard. He can read a defense completely before he even takes the snap, and call audibles to suit. Manning progresses through his reads quickly, and when things go to shit, he still maintains a calm demeanor and keeps his poise. Manning is the picture of poise in the pocket, just like Johnny U. A lot of that comes with experience, but for the most part, he was doing these things since his rookie year. LeFevour, on the other hand, seems to have trouble progressing through his reads. In the Senior Bowl, as with all season, he seemed to rely on his feet when his primary receiver was covered. When things go to shit for LeFevour, he's looking on how to get out of the pocket, not at his receivers downfield. Don't get me wrong, he still is an amazing QB, his numbers scream that. He made 4.3 ass-billion plays on his feet, and that's an exact number. But, in the NFL, defensive tackles are as fast as linebackers, defensive ends/linebackers are as fast as cornerbacks and safeties, and cornerbacks and safeties are as fast as cheetahs. His speed isn't going to help him near as much on the pro-level. Manning will sit in the pocket until the very last second, and then deliver a strike to his target, sacrificing his body in the process. To me, that's what makes a great quarterback. I'm not saying LeFevour doesn't do that, I'm just stating my opinion. LeFevour was a running QB in college, you can't deny that. If he can't throw on the run, that severly handcuffs him on the next level. Can he make the transition to the pros? Can he make all the pro-level throws? I don't know, we'll all have to find out. I think he'll do pretty good, personally. But not in the traditional QB sense, I would imagine.