@logicisforsquares said:

I think you may have patted yourself on the back hard enough to give yourself brain damage.

The brain isn't in the back.

Oh an PS

If you want to read what I've said over the past several weeks and exactly why Tour and company owe me a "You were right all along" just read this thread

http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=30747#

Pretty much says it all.

At least someone around here was right about Hoyer since Day 1.

Also found it interesting that it was said that Browns have been talking about changing QBs since Week 8. Funny because after the season started I kept my mouth shut about Hoyer until after Week 8.

What a coincidence, huh?

You can all can leave your "Ok Stockton you were right all along" comments below. There are many of you that owe me one of those.

History will be very very kind to me. Has already been very kind to this thread.

I like how someone went through and locked all my other threads right before I come back from suspension. Trust me many of you MANY of you don't want to reread through those now. Things have played out almost exactly as I said they would.

I like this entire thread best. I think even my speech to the team that you guys begged for would be perfect right now. http://thebrownsboard.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=30747#

Tour...you couldn't look dumber at this point. Eat the crow like a man, or bitch and moan and say its not your fault like Hoyer does. Up to you. I have a feeling I already know which way you'll go.


Miller High Life in a Champagne League.

@bbedward said:

There isn't hate for manziel, just repeated frustration of telling manziel fans to stfu after complaining about wins.

No hate for Manziel?

Just look at some avatars around here. LBC Mike at the top of the page, what is his avatar?

I can't tell if you're being stupid or disingenuous when you say there's no Manziel hate around here.

Once again what other fan base would trash their 1st round Rookie QB before he even starts a game? Are most fan bases not excited to see their Rookie QBs?

Brian Hoyer last 6 games

52%
4TDs
7INTs
70 passer rating

Miller High Life in a Champagne League

Of course Z wants me off this board.

Earlier when Hoyer wasn't one of the worst QBs starting in the NFL, nobody had any problem with me coming on and saying "Hoyer isn't the future, Miller High Life in a Champagne League, history will be kind to me" because you could just laugh it off.

But you can't anymore. Now the time is coming where you know I'm right, and you don't want me around when it becomes obvious. You can't stand to swallow the medicine of having me around when I was right all along.

Last 6 games 52% Completions 4TDs 7INTs 31st rated QB.

Miller High Life in a Champagne League.

Ok so we have 11 replies and nobody wants to actually answer.


Should be about all you need to know.

@tiamat63 said:

Is he a Franchise QB? No.

Will he be on roster. I hope so. But that's is a completely different circumstance compared to your first question.

Do you really think those two questions are exclusive? Why would we sign him/he sign here if he's not the Franchise QB?

@browns149 said:

I wonder which question am I signing for?

Either.

Put your name on it.

Zombo said:

Enjoy your last night on the Brownsboard, Stock, because when I hit a computer tomorrow you're gone. You're not a Browns fan. At least the Steeler trolls do not pretend to be Browns fans. You're worse.

Z

Hey if you loved Brian Hoyer as much as you people do, more so than the Browns even, I wouldn't want someone speaking the truth around here either.

I mean keep on all the people with the personal insults and death threats, but the guy quoting stats....he needs gone!

@tiamat63 said:

You pose two separate questions with this thread, dumbass.

Feel free to answer to either.

@texaskevin06 said:

The fact that some people are even thinking about benching Hoyer tells the tale. And like I said before Tebow was money at the end of games and we saw how that turned out. I would rather see 30 good throws versus 4.

Hey Tim Tebow won a playoff game, by the same rules people on this board judge Hoyer, Tebow should've been locked up long term.

Where is that guy now? I mean his record as a starting QB was 7-4 his last year.

I want this list for posterity.

If you think Brian Hoyer is the Browns QB next year, please leave your name on this thread.

Put your name on it.

@tiamat63 said:

Playing against the easiest pass defenses with cast off receivers, UDFA and an Oline that has a limp from time to time.

What's your point in all of this? To convert us 'unpure' fans to the legion of Johnny? Maybe somehow our collective cry will be heard by Pettine to start the rookie?

Your shtick, which don't kid yourself - is just that, is beyond tiresome. How can you have enough time in your life to consistently come up with these threads and posts?

You bitch when the team has a winning record. No, I'm not excited about Hoyer's play of late. But for right now he's the best we have so long Cleveland still has a very real playoff shot.

Go get yourself some vagina, or dick if that's your thing and enjoy the first meaningful ball being played this late in the season in almost 8 years. God damn, son.

Are you sure about that? Hoyer is the 2nd worst QB in the league the past 6 weeks. So theres only 1 spot down and whole bunch up if someone else played. Do you honestly think nobody else could be 52% 4TDs and 7INTS over the last 6 games?

@bbedward said:

But you don't care about the browns, you only care about them if your boy is the QB.

I do care about the Browns, thats why I can't stand them wasting their time flirting with a fat girl at the bar. You're wasting time and delaying the future, which hoyer has no part of.

Hoyer fans don't care about the Browns, they care about Hoyer. They routinely throw Browns players and coaches under the bus over and over to displace blame from Hoyer. They have no desire for the future of this franchise to be built properly, they want their hometown kid in there.

Face it, Hoyer fandom has taken over this message board and its is 10times anything any "Johnny Love" has ever been. The fact you think that "My Boy" is Manziel means you haven't read a word I've ever said about Manziel. Not one. I've said many times I don't know if hes good, but I know Hoyer isn't and he's not the future. We're wasting time. Its Derek Anderson 2007 all over again and remind me how well that worked out of the Browns? Did it propel the Franchise forward? Hmmm?? Abandoning their long term plan to try and chase the playoffs with a castaway QB and then committing to him? Did that work out well?

No the Browns have a plan, they need to get on with that plan. This Hoyer thing has become silly at this point and pointless.

@bbedward said:

Hoyer and coaching is the only reason this game was close IMO.

If it is indeed becoming clearer Hoyer isn't long term, even you can understand why you don't bench him at this point. Stockton doesn't get it, though.

His team is behind him 100%, if nothing else. You don't remove him from a team in this position.

Really? Why? Because we could win the Super Bowl?

The team has a long term plan that doesn't include Brian Hoyer and you think its better that they delay the start of that plan, to not get Manziel his first action until next season (where he'll have to learn on the job just the same) until next year? That helps the Browns long term?

Explain how? How does this help anything? We know who the future QB isn't. We know we are not Super Bowl contenders. So what are we doing here? Whats the benefit of Hoyer and his 31st in the NFL rating over the last 6 weeks? Tell me what we're doing that is helping the future.

Brian Hoyer is the 31st rated QB out of 32 in the NFL over the last 6 weeks, and has played the easiest pass defense schedule in the NFL over that time.


4 TD and 7 INT in the last 6 games. Let that sink in for awhile.

The tide is turning towards the light.