bench Bess for LIFE!
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Yes we were happy when we signed him .... But why is it not OK to say he absolutely sucked today?Wow... this has to be the most bipolar forum on the net...
I can still remember the accolades Bess drew when we signed him...
He was our FA steal...
His pass reception rate was the highest in the league...
And on...
And on...
He muffed a friggin' punt... it happens.
The punt was short... he sprinted to get to it and got to it.
And rather than go down after fielding it he looked up to continue the run back...
He tried to make a good play a better play...
And it went wrong...
He is our sure handed return man.
Put in to field all critical punts...
Why?
Because three games ago (IIRC) Benji muffed one deep in our end of the field...
As for his "dropped passes"...
Y'all need to go to the tape...
Cause the three that immediately spring to mind, including the game ending one, were all terrible throws.
He did.
He knows it.
Everybody knows it.
But you.
Making excuses for a fumbled punt because he was trying to "make a good play a better play"?
He fumbled. Not a muff. No one touched him. He fucked up badly. Is what it is.
You can't just give the ball away so easily.
Z
Z.... I think he was only saying calm the fuck down. He had a bad game, it happens. He is not a piece of shit, he does not need to be cut or even benchedZombo said:
Yes we were happy when we signed him .... But why is it not OK to say he absolutely sucked today?
He did.
He knows it.
Everybody knows it.
But you.
Making excuses for a fumbled punt because he was trying to "make a good play a better play"?
He fumbled. Not a muff. No one touched him. He fucked up badly. Is what it is.
You can't just give the ball away so easily.
Z
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Zombo is a traitor.
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Z.... I think he was only saying calm the fuck down. He had a bad game, it happens. He is not a piece of shit, he does not need to be cut or even benchedZombo said:
Yes we were happy when we signed him .... But why is it not OK to say he absolutely sucked today?
He did.
He knows it.
Everybody knows it.
But you.
Making excuses for a fumbled punt because he was trying to "make a good play a better play"?
He fumbled. Not a muff. No one touched him. He fucked up badly. Is what it is.
You can't just give the ball away so easily.
Z
Z.... I think he was only saying calm the fuck down. He had a bad game, it happens. He is not a piece of shit, he does not need to be cut or even benched
Actually, I'm the one that said he had a bad game.
Tour won't admit it.
I am not one of the cut or bench guys.
Just calling out a critically bad performance he had today.
Zombo
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Z.... I think he was only saying calm the fuck down. He had a bad game, it happens. He is not a piece of shit, he does not need to be cut or even benched
Actually, I'm the one that said he had a bad game.
Tour won't admit it.
I am not one of the cut or bench guys.
Just calling out a critically bad performance he had today.
Zombo
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Bess had a bad game...
Better now?
Fumbled punt was a bad, bad, bad, bad play on his part.
The drops really hurt us too.
Deep down, I know you agree ... and NOW I feel better.
Zombo
--He's a standup guy, he'll have a good game next week ... but he's gotta be leading the league in drop percentage ... massive disappointment from what we were expecting from him.
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Odd thing is if you google "Bess punt muff" one vs. the Bengals in 2010 pops up... back then Bess had long hair.
Google "Bess muffed punt" and today's shows up...
If he only muffs one every three years, I can live with that.
And being that Bess is our "precision route/ hands guy", it's just possible that if he has more than two games in a row with the same QB, then his production will improve.
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I'm only calling it what they are calling it on NFL.com...
Moo-fa-ly-ya...
Well, then I am disappointed with NFL.com. He caught it and started to run with it.
Muffed puntFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaIn American football, a muffed punt is defined as "touching of the ball prior to possessing the ball."
A muffed punt occurs when there is an "uncontrolled touch" of the football by a player on the returning team after it is punted. This can occur when:
- The kicking team interferes with the other team's right to catch the punt
- A player on the kicking team is struck unaware by the football running down-field to cover the punt.
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A player attempts toreturnthe ball, makes contact with it but cannot retain the ball in his hands and it comes loose.[1]
A muffed punt is not a fumble. To be a fumble, the receiving team must possess the football, then lose control. In the case of a fumble, the ball is live and can be returned by the team that recovers the ball. In the case of a muffed punt, it is possible for the punting team to recover the ball and continue the drive, but at least in NCAA and NFL rules, they cannot advance the ball on that same play. Rules vary by league about how to handle a muffed punt.
In the NFL, a muffed punt cannot be challenged by a coach for review.
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Wow... this has to be the most bipolar forum on the net...
I can still remember the accolades Bess drew when we signed him...
He was our FA steal...
His pass reception rate was the highest in the league...
And on...
And on...
He muffed a friggin' punt... it happens.
The punt was short... he sprinted to get to it and got to it.
And rather than go down after fielding it he looked up to continue the run back...
He tried to make a good play a better play...
And it went wrong...
He is our sure handed return man.
Put in to field all critical punts...
Why?
Because three games ago (IIRC) Benji muffed one deep in our end of the field...
As for his "dropped passes"...
Y'all need to go to the tape...
Cause the three that immediately spring to mind, including the game ending one, were all terrible throws.
Wow... this has to be the most bipolar forum on the net...
I can still remember the accolades Bess drew when we signed him...
He was our FA steal...
His pass reception rate was the highest in the league...
And on...
And on...
He muffed a friggin' punt... it happens.
The punt was short... he sprinted to get to it and got to it.
And rather than go down after fielding it he looked up to continue the run back...
He tried to make a good play a better play...
And it went wrong...
He is our sure handed return man.
Put in to field all critical punts...
Why?
Because three games ago (IIRC) Benji muffed one deep in our end of the field...
As for his "dropped passes"...
Y'all need to go to the tape...
Cause the three that immediately spring to mind, including the game ending one, were all terrible throws.
Amen, he will bounce back and be fine.
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Extremely disappointed in Bess
Here site that does advanced stats on WRs.
http://wp.advancednflstats.com/playerstats.php?pos=WR
Out of 80 receivers
In the category "win probability added"
8. Gordon
74. Little
78. Bess
"expected points added"
14. Gordon
74. Bess
80. Little (dead last)
"yards per target"
10. Gordon
78. Bess
80. Little (dead last)
"catch rate"
56. Gordon
71. Bess
80 Little (dead last)
Summary: Bess is having a really bad season and Greg Little sucks balls.
If they traded Gordon I think I would take a bullet to the noggin as opposed to watching this offense without him the rest of the year.
Zombo
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I don't get how Bess goes from one of the most trusted 3rd down sure handed guys to what we've seen this year. There's nothing more frustrating than a NFL WR not catching the football.
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Last year he ranked 12th in win probabilty.
He was a smart free agent acquisition.
He just happens to suck this year
Maybe it's the gloves.
Cause it ain't the QBs ... he drops all of their passes.
Hoping he gets sync now with Camps, we need a good second half from him.
Zombo
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If bess can't catch that last ball on sunday, i really don't know what he can catch. A soft lazy spiral over the middle that you are literally sliding for and it lands right in your basket....what can you catch if you can't catch that? What? A weeden shovel? Maybe weeds can teach campbell how shovel flick and Bess can be that guy....otherwise wtf?
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If Chud doesn't bench Bess he might lose the locker room a bit. He has sat Little for less and I still hate coaches, even though I didn't want Shurmur fired, who back a player who stinks. I love Bob Stoops in the fact he says, "yeah he played terrible".
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He won't lose the lockerroom over that. If you ever played sports you'd know a lockerrrom tends to pull around a player who has a bad game. They know what he can do and as players who have played, they also know that next week they can be the guy to have a bad game.
Trust me.....players support teammates. They aren't going to revolt if Bess is in the game, just like they won't laugh if Weedend sees more action.
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If Chud doesn't bench Bess he might lose the locker room a bit. He has sat Little for less and I still hate coaches, even though I didn't want Shurmur fired, who back a player who stinks. I love Bob Stoops in the fact he says, "yeah he played terrible".
even though I didn't want Shurmur fired
Read: my opinion is awful
I'm awesome, and I fuck dolphins. Ghoolie 12/2/2012: I have absolutely no skills, training or pride -
I'm only calling it what they are calling it on NFL.com...
Moo-fa-ly-ya...
Well, then I am disappointed with NFL.com. He caught it and started to run with it.
Muffed puntFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaIn American football, a muffed punt is defined as "touching of the ball prior to possessing the ball."
A muffed punt occurs when there is an "uncontrolled touch" of the football by a player on the returning team after it is punted. This can occur when:
- The kicking team interferes with the other team's right to catch the punt
- A player on the kicking team is struck unaware by the football running down-field to cover the punt.
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A player attempts toreturnthe ball, makes contact with it but cannot retain the ball in his hands and it comes loose.[1]
A muffed punt is not a fumble. To be a fumble, the receiving team must possess the football, then lose control. In the case of a fumble, the ball is live and can be returned by the team that recovers the ball. In the case of a muffed punt, it is possible for the punting team to recover the ball and continue the drive, but at least in NCAA and NFL rules, they cannot advance the ball on that same play. Rules vary by league about how to handle a muffed punt.
In the NFL, a muffed punt cannot be challenged by a coach for review.
Zombo said:
Sounds a lot like what I saw happen...
And, yes, I have been known to beat a dead horse or seven...
Zombo said:
If they traded Gordon I think I would take a bullet to the noggin as opposed to watching this offense without him the rest of the year.
I think I still have a flare gun we passed around an audio site I frequent... much more colorful way to go...
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even though I didn't want Shurmur fired
Read: my opinion is awful
Read: my opinion is awful
Yeah wtf? Shurmer? You want Holmgren back too?
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