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On this, indigenous day, let us take a moment to remember....

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  • W Westside Steve

    Natives were savages. Sorry.

    WSS

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    C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
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    @westside-steve said:

    Natives were savages. Sorry.

    WSS

    Yes they were so savage that ben franklin had to write back home that they were losing settlers by the thousands who willfully fled to join bative americans. A fascinating fact is that early settlers high walls and fortifications had ZERO to do with native aggression, they were built to keep settlers IN. Ive posted franklins letter here before, he was puzzled that native americans couldnt wait to get back to their  own kind and way of life yet if settlers were allowed to visit native americans they never came back. Literally they fled from white people if they tried to find them. They never wanted to go back to thst euro trash fgt way of life. Especially women, who were treated like decent human beings instead of baby chattle.

    i have no doubt once the native american nations became aware of the white mans true goals, and endured the atrocities o

    from soldiers sent to kick then off their land, that they did some heinous sht in return

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      Only natural

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        MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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        So the argument is it's ok to honor Columbus, even though we know he did s bunch of awful Sheet, because some portion of the native Americans did bad things?

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        • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

          So the argument is it's ok to honor Columbus, even though we know he did s bunch of awful Sheet, because some portion of the native Americans did bad things?

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          @mld-woody said:

          So the argument is it's ok to honor Columbus, even though we know he did s bunch of awful Sheet, because some portion of the native Americans did bad things?

          Right, because a guy who landed in south america and promptly boiled people alive who wouldnt mine gold for spain....is the ewuivalent of a group of people who were slowly exterminated and pushed off their land

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          • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

            So the argument is it's ok to honor Columbus, even though we know he did s bunch of awful Sheet, because some portion of the native Americans did bad things?

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            @mld-woody said:

            So the argument is it's ok to honor Columbus, even though we know he did s bunch of awful Sheet, because some portion of the native Americans did bad things?

            The argument is, and it is pretty obvious, that if you need to be morally pure and cleanse the history books of Christopher Columbus you should not have monuments all across the United States to barbaric and savage Indian tribes that enslaved and raped each other and participated in torture and cannjbalism. That's the argument.

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              DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
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              In honor of the Indians, I am changing my avatar.  Go Tribe!  MAGA!

              "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
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              • W Westside Steve

                @mld-woody said:

                So the argument is it's ok to honor Columbus, even though we know he did s bunch of awful Sheet, because some portion of the native Americans did bad things?

                The argument is, and it is pretty obvious, that if you need to be morally pure and cleanse the history books of Christopher Columbus you should not have monuments all across the United States to barbaric and savage Indian tribes that enslaved and raped each other and participated in torture and cannjbalism. That's the argument.

                WSS

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                @westside-steve said:

                and participated in torture and catabolism.

                WSS

                Inb4 edit. 

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                  [kuh-tab-uh-liz-uh m]

                  noun  Biology, Physiology.

                  1. destructive metabolism; the breaking down in living organisms of more complex substances into simpler ones, with the release of energy (opposed to anabolism).

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                    As we keep talking about freedoms, Cleve you are perfectly free to pack your shjt and leave whatever godforsaken wilderness you live on and give it back to the natives.

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                    • W Westside Steve

                      As we keep talking about freedoms, Cleve you are perfectly free to pack your shjt and leave whatever godforsaken wilderness you live on and give it back to the natives.

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                      @westside-steve said:

                      As we keep talking about freedoms, Cleve you are perfectly free to pack your shjt and leave whatever godforsaken wilderness you live on and give it back to the natives.

                      WSS

                      I wish i lived in the wilderness. Could have a couple big dogs then. I live in a condo...ur the one that livesout in the stix in norton, which is some drcent land. Consider urself lucky if u can have coffee on ur back porch in the morning and see nithin but trees and hear sht but the wind blowing

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                      • W Westside Steve

                        @mld-woody said:

                        So the argument is it's ok to honor Columbus, even though we know he did s bunch of awful Sheet, because some portion of the native Americans did bad things?

                        The argument is, and it is pretty obvious, that if you need to be morally pure and cleanse the history books of Christopher Columbus you should not have monuments all across the United States to barbaric and savage Indian tribes that enslaved and raped each other and participated in torture and cannjbalism. That's the argument.

                        WSS

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                        @westside-steve said:

                        The argument is, and it is pretty obvious, that if you need to be morally pure and cleanse the history books of Christopher Columbus you should not have monuments all across the United States to barbaric and savage Indian tribes that enslaved and raped each other and participated in torture and cannjbalism. That's the argument.

                        WSS

                        By the way that was another speech to text glitch that should have read cannibalism of course.

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                        • W Westside Steve

                          @westside-steve said:

                          The argument is, and it is pretty obvious, that if you need to be morally pure and cleanse the history books of Christopher Columbus you should not have monuments all across the United States to barbaric and savage Indian tribes that enslaved and raped each other and participated in torture and cannjbalism. That's the argument.

                          WSS

                          By the way that was another speech to text glitch that should have read cannibalism of course.

                          WSS

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                          @westside-steve said:

                          By the way that was another speech to text glitch that should have read cannibalism of course.

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                          Ofc. Unless u were talking about the infamous metabolic tribe? 

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                            @mld-woody said:

                            So the argument is it's ok to honor Columbus, even though we know he did s bunch of awful Sheet, because some portion of the native Americans did bad things?

                            The argument is, and it is pretty obvious, that if you need to be morally pure and cleanse the history books of Christopher Columbus you should not have monuments all across the United States to barbaric and savage Indian tribes that enslaved and raped each other and participated in torture and cannjbalism. That's the argument.

                            WSS

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                            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
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                            @westside-steve said:

                            The argument is, and it is pretty obvious, that if you need to be morally pure and cleanse the history books of Christopher Columbus you should not have monuments all across the United States to barbaric and savage Indian tribes that enslaved and raped each other and participated in torture and cannjbalism. That's the argument.

                            WSS

                            Every native American?

                            Cuz we know what Columbus did. It's not that you need to be morally pure. But throwing babies at rocks is probably too much. 

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                              Hey Woody I understand. Situational morality for you guys.

                              I bet very few members of the Nazi party ever actually killed anybody.

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                                @westside-steve said:

                                The argument is, and it is pretty obvious, that if you need to be morally pure and cleanse the history books of Christopher Columbus you should not have monuments all across the United States to barbaric and savage Indian tribes that enslaved and raped each other and participated in torture and cannjbalism. That's the argument.

                                WSS

                                Every native American?

                                Cuz we know what Columbus did. It's not that you need to be morally pure. But throwing babies at rocks is probably too much. 

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                                @mld-woody said:

                                Every native American?

                                Cuz we know what Columbus did. It's not that you need to be morally pure. But throwing babies at rocks is probably too much. 

                                But they were brown babies so its cool with west side

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                                • W Westside Steve

                                  Hey Woody I understand. Situational morality for you guys.

                                  I bet very few members of the Nazi party ever actually killed anybody.

                                  WSS

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                                  @westside-steve said:

                                  Hey Woody I understand. Situational morality for you guys.

                                  I bet very few members of the Nazi party ever actually killed anybody.

                                  WSS

                                  It's.,. It's not though. 

                                  In your attempts to be alt right Steve you're missing it. 

                                  We have you claiming every native American was as bas as Columbus vs what we actually know about Columbus....

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                                    The Injuns were savages, who the modern goody two shoe fags like to put on a pedestal. 

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                                      Columbus was objectively as pooper. 

                                      If you're right wing, you perceive those that want to remove things that honor him as liberal. And since your Political ideology boils down to "against the other side", you need to find a way to do that 

                                      But you can't actually do that. You can't defend Columbus. So you have to Huey start shitting on native Americans. Based on your thoughts. Based on broad strokes. Does it actually have anything to do with Columbus and the topic ay hand? No. But you think it "pisses off the liberals" which is  how you interpret winning. And if all goes well, you'll have successfully changed the subject

                                      Same Sheet every time

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                                        Columbus was objectively as pooper. 

                                        If you're right wing, you perceive those that want to remove things that honor him as liberal. And since your Political ideology boils down to "against the other side", you need to find a way to do that 

                                        But you can't actually do that. You can't defend Columbus. So you have to Huey start shitting on native Americans. Based on your thoughts. Based on broad strokes. Does it actually have anything to do with Columbus and the topic ay hand? No. But you think it "pisses off the liberals" which is  how you interpret winning. And if all goes well, you'll have successfully changed the subject

                                        Same Sheet every time

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                                        @mld-woody said:

                                        Columbus was objectively as pooper. 

                                        If you're right wing, you perceive those that want to remove things that honor him as liberal. And since your Political ideology boils down to "against the other side", you need to find a way to do that 

                                        But you can't actually do that. You can't defend Columbus. So you have to Huey start shitting on native Americans. Based on your thoughts. Based on broad strokes. Does it actually have anything to do with Columbus and the topic ay hand? No. But you think it "pisses off the liberals" which is  how you interpret winning. And if all goes well, you'll have successfully changed the subject

                                        Same Sheet every time

                                        And you can't defend Native Americans. Brutal Savages like so many other humans on the Earth throughout history. But you've written a complete false history of them because of your animosity toward the establishment or white people or whatever. There has been torture murder had brutality bye every group you might consider heroic through the ages. We make up a complete fake narrative.

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                                          What false history had woody written about the native americans? What they did once war was declared on them is of zero consequence. White people clearly documented the kind of people they encountered when they came here. They werent no savages. Ive furnished letters from both franklin and columbus about the people they encountered. Case closef

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