Apparently Browns “not enamored” with any of the top QBs

syd

@logicisforsquares said:

You think these kids don’t know how the game has to be played predraft? Kids are so savvy now that they are skipping bowl games to not risk draft status.

Not quite sure where Manziel fits into your autistic screeching but no I wasn’t a fan at all.

Shmuck draft status what the hell doe's that even mean (except from a paycheck) i'm Shmucking talking about how a franchise views you how you are set up to succeed as a 1st round qb draft pick and you sure as hell do not start off the process saying that you are not enamored with or will be listening to offers for the 1st pick

sorry you do not get it

LogicIsForSquares

@syd said:

Shmuck draft status what the hell doe's that even mean (except from a paycheck) i'm Shmucking talking about how a franchise views you how you are set up to succeed as a 1st round qb draft pick and you sure as hell do not start off the process saying that you are not enamored with or will be listening to offers for the 1st pick

sorry you do not get it

If a kid’s psyche can’t handle predraft talk (that happens every year) and needs to be constantly reassured then playing professional sports may not be for them. Everyone of those kids has an agent who I am sure is giving them the rundown of how it goes. It is a business.

LogicIsForSquares

@syd said:

this is why i said you may be a manziel fan all about the bucks huh ?

I was inferring that the kid taken at one will be cut so deeply by pre-draft banter that they may have to resort to dabbing their watery eyes with 100 dollar bills.

LogicIsForSquares

@lionofbuddha said:

He’s not a unicorn, he just has the discipline to put in his body what humans are supposed to eat. (Plants)

Kyrie went plant-based too, if he sticks with it he’ll be ageless as well

Woofing down animal based protein is what got our brains to where they are today.

jiggins7919

Just had a story pop up on my phone that said Dorsey is open to trading the #1 pick. I will literally throw my own butt into a mental hospital if this happens. I could care LESS about getting more picks. What I DO care about is getting our favorite QB, and if we trade, we give other teams THREE chances to take our guy. Yeah, everyone is talking about Saquon Barkley, but let me remind everyone that when it comes time to making early picks, more teams trade up for QBs than running backs. Nobody is likely to mortgage a bunch of picks to move up to #1 for Saquon. What's that mean? That means a QB is going #1 if we trade down. Then there's the #2 pick, and the Giants already said they'd trade down too. Even if they don't, they could easily take a QB as Eli's replacement. That's two possible QBs. Then you have the Colts. I doubt they take a QB, but does anyone truly know what the hell is going on with Luck's shoulder? They could draft a QB or trade back with someone like the Broncos who want a QB. That's THREE potential chances for the Cleveland Browns to lose out on QBs. And for what? To get more picks? Yeah, because that's worked out SOOOOOOOO good for us!

Maybe John Dorsey is full of crap. Perhaps he's just posturing in the media. But if you have the #1 pick, YOU DON'T HAVE TO. I'm serious, we trade down and I'll need some strong medication. I already know we're going to with one of our early ones, I feel it. The 1 and 4 are simply too much capital for one GM to play with, and we all know how those turds just HAVE to prove how smart they are, right? It's still early, but we're now in March and things are picking up quickly. You know what would make me feel better? That in about a month or so, John Dorsey announces who the Browns are drafting #1. Remember when that used to happen every once in a while? I could be crazy, but I want to say that occasionally a team announced who they were taking #1. I'd love to hear Dorsey say, "We're taking Baker Mayfield #1, and there's nothing you can do about it. Now, if you want to talk about trading for the #4, you can call me any time, but Baker is already being fit for his Cleveland Browns jersey, so read'em and weep."

TexasAg1969

Smoke screen. He's just on a fishing expedition. Now if someone wanted to trade out a starting QB plus their #1 pick or more, then it might be worth listening to if that QB is really what we need.

LionOfBuddha

@syd said:

just got a new cook book called How Not To Die and there are some damn good plant based recipes in there so as of now I'm cooking 2-3 times a week outta that book

edit this is a edit I have also lost a few pounds since using that cook book

Yes sir! Michael Gregor knows his stuff.

Check our Super Immunity by Dr. Joel Fuhrman, changed my life

The less meat and dairy one eats, replaced with plants, the more alive one becomes.

LionOfBuddha

@logicisforsquares said:

Woofing down animal based protein is what got our brains to where they are today.

Common misconception (funded by the meat and dairy industry)

Studies have shown through teeth analysis and fecal analysis that our ancestors at mostly starches and plants. Glucose is what fueled our brains to perform efficiently.

Yes, cavemen ate meat once in a very while (out of necessity) but hunting was not very energy efficient, and it’s not good for you. Just because it doesn’t kill you right away, doesn’t mean your arteries aren’t clogging and your IGF growth factor is spiking setting you up for cancer. (Heart attacks and cancer are higher that they have ever been in human history.)

TexasAg1969

@lionofbuddha said:

(Heart attacks and cancer are higher that they have ever been in human history.)

Thank you Mickey Ds and pesticides.

LogicIsForSquares

@lionofbuddha said:

Common misconception (funded by the meat and dairy industry)

Studies have shown through teeth analysis and fecal analysis that our ancestors at mostly starches and plants. Glucose is what fueled our brains to perform efficiently.

Yes, cavemen ate meat once in a very while (out of necessity) but hunting was not very energy efficient, and it’s not good for you. Just because it doesn’t kill you right away, doesn’t mean your arteries aren’t clogging and your IGF growth factor is spiking setting you up for cancer. (Heart attacks and cancer are higher that they have ever been in human history.)

Yes scientists, pediatricians, and nutritionists are totally all bought by the meat industry. Animal based protein fueled our brain development. Glucose fuels the brain but it would not have caused a change in the size and development. Coal makes a steam engine function but it requires other materials to build the engine.

time.com/4252373/meat-eating-veganism-evolution/

LogicIsForSquares

@texasag1969 said:

Thank you Mickey Ds and pesticides.

Yeah the cancer and heart attacks are from garbage processed food, not meat itself.

Bigalow80

@jiggins7919 said:

Just had a story pop up on my phone that said Dorsey is open to trading the #1 pick. I will literally throw my own butt into a mental hospital if this happens. I could care LESS about getting more picks. What I DO care about is getting our favorite QB, and if we trade, we give other teams THREE chances to take our guy. Yeah, everyone is talking about Saquon Barkley, but let me remind everyone that when it comes time to making early picks, more teams trade up for QBs than running backs. Nobody is likely to mortgage a bunch of picks to move up to #1 for Saquon. What's that mean? That means a QB is going #1 if we trade down. Then there's the #2 pick, and the Giants already said they'd trade down too. Even if they don't, they could easily take a QB as Eli's replacement. That's two possible QBs. Then you have the Colts. I doubt they take a QB, but does anyone truly know what the hell is going on with Luck's shoulder? They could draft a QB or trade back with someone like the Broncos who want a QB. That's THREE potential chances for the Cleveland Browns to lose out on QBs. And for what? To get more picks? Yeah, because that's worked out SOOOOOOOO good for us!

Maybe John Dorsey is full of crap. Perhaps he's just posturing in the media. But if you have the #1 pick, YOU DON'T HAVE TO. I'm serious, we trade down and I'll need some strong medication. I already know we're going to with one of our early ones, I feel it. The 1 and 4 are simply too much capital for one GM to play with, and we all know how those turds just HAVE to prove how smart they are, right? It's still early, but we're now in March and things are picking up quickly. You know what would make me feel better? That in about a month or so, John Dorsey announces who the Browns are drafting #1. Remember when that used to happen every once in a while? I could be crazy, but I want to say that occasionally a team announced who they were taking #1. I'd love to hear Dorsey say, "We're taking Baker Mayfield #1, and there's nothing you can do about it. Now, if you want to talk about trading for the #4, you can call me any time, but Baker is already being fit for his Cleveland Browns jersey, so read'em and weep."

Dorsey is just doing what every good GM has to do. That is Listen. There is so much that still needs to be determined before the browns are on the clock and so many factors could change their draft strategy. What if they sign Kirk Cousins? They are not going to be selecting a qb #1 at that point. What if the Giants offer the #2 and OBJ for the #1 pick? or the Jets offer Leonard Williams, Robby Anderson, their #6 pick, plus a 2019 mid-rounder for the #1 pick? What if it's not the #1 pick, but the #4 pick and AZ offers Peterson and the #15 pick? Trading down does not always mean draft picks. SO much still needs to be determined before the Browns make a decision that, it is in the Browns best interest to weigh ALL of their options, not just a qb at #1. Honestly, I like most of the qb's in this draft and would be perfectly fine with any of them. They all have their flaws but they all have strong points. What happens if the Browns determine there is no difference between Allen and White or Lauletta? Why take Allen at #1 or #4 when you know you are going to get either of those guys in the second or third AND you can add players to the mix. I'm not saying this is the direction they should go, but this could very well be a possibility.

Let's not forget, Kizer is still on this roster. He had a bad year last year, but he is only 21 years old and everyone knew he needed time to develop when he came out. He could make a big jump in-between his first and second year (see Goff) and really open the browns eyes. Especially if they bring on a veteran such as McCarron or Bradford or Keenum where the browns then feel good about the qb position for a few years. You don't have to take a qb at #1 then. You could take one of the later round guys and develop them along with Kizer.

boo fagley

@hoorta said:

Heard on ESPN yesterday- "Brady is a unicorn".

As I was saying Trade down out of #2 to #5 or #6, and get three starters for the price of two. Barkley + their second round pick isn't turning them into a "win now" team. 9-7 at best and eke into the playoffs if it all goes perfect? OK. Super Bowl contender? LOL!!!

Staying put lands 3 players too, Barkley if the Browns pass on him, # 34 which is basically a low 1st, # 68 which is 2 selections down from the 2nd round.

Most these teams trading up give you their 1st and low round picks and picks next draft. With Eli in his late 30s I doubt that they are waiting around to win.

PS- take a look at the Giants 2018 opponents and tell me you see a winning record playing the Saints, Jags, Eagles twice, Falcons and Panthers. Split with the Cowboys and Redskins- that's 8 losses right there.

The Giants won the Super Bowl with 9 - 7 and 10 - 6 records. Every season a team that looks like a lock on paper falls short. Super Bowl hangover for the Eagles. The Panthers dont impress me. Both the Cowboys and Saints have to leave the dome and play in NY. Hopefully for them its warm outside.

LionOfBuddha

@logicisforsquares said:

Yes scientists, pediatricians, and nutritionists are totally all bought by the meat industry. Animal based protein fueled our brain development. Glucose fuels the brain but it would not have caused a change in the size and development. Coal makes a steam engine function but it requires other materials to build the engine.

time.com/4252373/meat-eating-veganism-evolution/

Haha don’t get me started man. That Time article is such cowpoop. Time magazine also told us to eat butter, despite the hundreds of controlled studies that eating butter clogs arteries and contributes to heart disease. Cooked starches made our brains what they are.

And yes, scientists and many nutritionists are bought by the meat industry. Go take a look at all the “meat is healthy” “carbs are bad” “eggs are good” studies, and you’ll see a common link. Funding by the meat and dairy industries across the globe. It’s a sad joke man.

A physician knows nothing about nutrition. Doctors are required 19.6 hours of nutrition education and no continuing education. It’s a joke.

If we ate plant-based, the billion dollar pharmaceutical industry would collapse, and billion dollar meat and dairy industry would collapse. There’s a lot at stake for these people.

Look at the places in the world where people live the longest.

Okinawa, Japan? 80% of their diet is yams. Little to no animals products.

Loma Linda, California? Vegan and Vegetarian Seventh-Day Adventists.

The science and anecdotal evidence is there. The less meat and dairy the better. The more plants and starches the better.

LogicIsForSquares

@lionofbuddha said:

Haha don’t get me started man. That Time article is such cowpoop. Time magazine also told us to eat butter, despite the hundreds of controlled studies that eating butter clogs arteries and contributes to heart disease. Cooked starches made our brains what they are.

And yes, scientists and many nutritionists are bought by the meat industry. Go take a look at all the “meat is healthy” “carbs are bad” “eggs are good” studies, and you’ll see a common link. Funding by the meat and dairy industries across the globe. It’s a sad joke man.

A pediatrician or physician knows nothing about nutrition. Doctors are required 19.6 hours of nutrition education and no continuing education. It’s a joke.

If we ate plant-based, the billion dollar pharmaceutical industry would collapse, and billion dollar meat and dairy industry would collapse. There’s a lot at stake for these people.

Look at the places in the world where people live the longest.

Okinawa, Japan? 80% of their diet is yams. Little to no animals products.

Loma Linda, California? Vegan and Vegetarian Seventh-Day Adventists.

The science and anecdotal evidence is there. The less meat and dairy the better. The more plants and starches the better.

Yes I am sure if we all went plant based that everything would be great and all that ails humanity would end. I imagine you read a lot of articles about weed curing every disease that has ever existed.

This is way off course for football. If you want, go start a thread about this in Barbershop or Politics forums.

LionOfBuddha

@logicisforsquares said:

Yes I am sure if we all went plant based that everything would be great and all that ails humanity would end. I imagine you read a lot of articles about weed curing every disease that has ever existed.

This is way off course for football. If you want, go start a thread about this in Barbershop or Politics forums.

I don’t smoke weed. But alas, you can’t beat the argument so you attack the person. It’s ok man haha.

I don’t think the ails of the world would end, but I think people would be a lot healthier and a lot less miserable. And there’s be a lot less needless sickness and suffering.

It is off course, I wasn’t even talking to you and you decided to enter the conversation.

Eat whatever you want, but if you get cancer or a heart attack, make a change

The Gipper

@syd said:

and what does that say along with the quote that they are not enamored with any of the QB'S When we do draft one #1 I'm sure he is not really gonna feel the love coming from are team and if you think that doe's not matter you better think again

The fact is, honestly......if we take a QB #1......we...the fans who have been through Pavlovian training on this....are going to say:
Did we really get the right one? And have that knot ...or cancerous tumor...in the back of our brain that will tell us: no, you didn't".

Fair to say?

The Gipper

@hoorta said:

Our caveman ancestors would disagree with that notion.

Check your toes.

(See reference in Barber Shop talk)

hoorta

@lionofbuddha said:

I don’t smoke weed. But alas, you can’t beat the argument so you attack the person. It’s ok man haha.

I don’t think the ails of the world would end, but I think people would be a lot healthier and a lot less miserable. And there’s be a lot less needless sickness and suffering.

It is off course, I wasn’t even talking to you and you decided to enter the conversation.

Eat whatever you want, but if you get cancer or a heart attack, make a change

Cancer has been around since the dinosaurs, 90% of heart attacks are caused by lack of exercise. If you want to believe vegan is healthier, be my guest.

The Gipper

@logicisforsquares said:

Yeah the cancer and heart attacks are from garbage processed food, not meat itself.

Cancer and heart attacks are at an all time high because the human life span is much longer. We no longer have plague and small pox and tuberculosis and a hundred other diseases that killed off humanity at a younger age. So, since those massive causes of human deaths have been obliterated....something else comes along to put an end to us.....so cancer and heart attacks are it.

If the average human life span were like 45 years....like it was in the past....then the incidents of cancer and heart disease would be vastly decreased...because some other pandemic would have killed us off long before we could develop those.