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  • darren15 darren15D Conversation Starter Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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    darren15D darren15 wrote on last edited by
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    http://walterfootball.com/draft2016charlie.php

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      tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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      Football mocks 2 months out from the draft are usually even too far ahead. I enjoy a certain degree of speculation, but good lord... not this.

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        gftChrisG gftChris wrote on last edited by
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        Oh, you stop that. No way we're drafting top without a huge amount of injuries on both sides.

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        • The Gipper The GipperT In Memoriam Very Popular
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          The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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          What these fucking idiots do is to look at just one position on a team....in this case the most important, QB, and think that the entire team is going to be as bad as their worst position.

          So, while the adage, a team is only as strong as its weakest link may be right in many cases, this is a 22 man game.

          The Browns, in my view, could in fact be exceedingly strong at every one of those 22 positions except 1 or 2.

          And QB, yes, is one of them. But if any of these prognosticators, or any of their opponents think the Browns are going to be a weak team because they have a deficiency at that one position, they have another think coming.

          (actually, I hope they do keep thinking that...because when the Browns deliver a Mike Tyson like blow to their head or gut, those other guys are not going to get up off the canvas)

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            T TexasAg1969 wrote on last edited by TexasAg1969
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            Conner Cook? Really? compare those stats with these.

            Cook

            58 percent of his passes in 2014 for 3,214 yards with 24 touchdowns and eight interceptions
            59 percent of his passes2013 for 2,755 yards with 22 touchdowns and six interceptions
            Manziel
            69 percent of his passes in 2013 for 4,114 yds with 37 TDs and 13 ints
            68 percent of his passes in 2012 for 3,706 yds with 26 TDs and 9 ints
            Add in another total of 2100+ yards running for 30 more TD's to JM's stats there.
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              W wargograw wrote on last edited by
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              Worthless comparison, Ag. It's a spread offense. I could find Tech quarterbacks that are better than Johnny then, by that standard.

              Also, thanks for all your help in the SEC debate.

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                Conner Cook? Really? compare those stats with these.

                Cook

                58 percent of his passes in 2014 for 3,214 yards with 24 touchdowns and eight interceptions
                59 percent of his passes2013 for 2,755 yards with 22 touchdowns and six interceptions
                Manziel
                69 percent of his passes in 2013 for 4,114 yds with 37 TDs and 13 ints
                68 percent of his passes in 2012 for 3,706 yds with 26 TDs and 9 ints
                Add in another total of 2100+ yards running for 30 more TD's to JM's stats there.
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                tiamat63T tiamat63 wrote on last edited by
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                @texasag1969 said:

                Conner Cook? Really? compare those stats with these.

                Cook

                58 percent of his passes in 2014 for 3,214 yards with 24 touchdowns and eight interceptions
                59 percent of his passes2013 for 2,755 yards with 22 touchdowns and six interceptions
                Manziel
                69 percent of his passes in 2013 for 4,114 yds with 37 TDs and 13 ints
                68 percent of his passes in 2012 for 3,706 yds with 26 TDs and 9 ints
                Add in another total of 2100+ yards running for 30 more TD's to JM's stats there.

                This, boys and girls - is why you don't look at stats as your ONLY base to an argument in certain scenarios.

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                  R RoyceRolls wrote on last edited by
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                  Does this mouth breathing mongoloid seriously think this is the worst Browns team since 2000 (the last time the Browns selected #1 overall)?

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                  • PoeticG PoeticGP Dedicated Reacting Well Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post One Year In One Month Later Week One Done
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                    PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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                    The Patriots will tank the season after the first four losses and then realize come the draft they don't have their first rounder! HA!

                    The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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                      Opal312O Opal312 wrote on last edited by
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                      Speculation

                      If we were to pick #1 why not Cardale?

                      Is Manziel and or McCown worse than:

                      An aging Carson Palmer

                      Geno or Bryce Petty

                      Matt Cassel or EJ Manuel

                      Sam Bradford after two knee surgeries

                      Nick Foles

                      Mariota on a bad team

                      Winston with a bad Oline and even worse run game

                      DAMN THE TORPEDOES! FULL SPEED AHEAD!
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                        PoeticGP PoeticG wrote on last edited by
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                        Manziel will be the league MVP this year. Unstoppable, unsolvable and unpredictable lighting up defenses league wide on a march to the Superbowl! Woof!

                        The secret of getting ahead is getting started. The secret of getting started is breaking your complex overwhelming tasks into small manageable tasks, and then starting on the first one. -Mark Twain- "It's not the size of the dog in the fight, it's the size of the fight in the dog." -Mark Twain-
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                        • PoeticGP PoeticG

                          Manziel will be the league MVP this year. Unstoppable, unsolvable and unpredictable lighting up defenses league wide on a march to the Superbowl! Woof!

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                          miktoxicM miktoxic wrote on last edited by
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                          @poeticg said:

                          Manziel will be the league MVP this year. Unstoppable, unsolvable and unpredictable lighting up defenses league wide on a march to the Superbowl! Woof!

                          manziel won't see the field this year unless it's a let's see what he can do NOW at game 14 when we hit the wall.

                          i don't see the tampa bay mccown showing up with our OL. i see the chicago 2013 showing up which means manziel might be irrelevant unless injury.

                          but you can dream on, just like you do with TR and mccoy.

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                          • PoeticGP PoeticG

                            Manziel will be the league MVP this year. Unstoppable, unsolvable and unpredictable lighting up defenses league wide on a march to the Superbowl! Woof!

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                            SuomiS Suomi wrote on last edited by Suomi
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                            @poeticg said:

                            Manziel will be the league MVP this year. Unstoppable, unsolvable and unpredictable lighting up defenses league wide on a march to the Superbowl! Woof!

                            Goddamn PoG - after reading your post I seriously felt it move. Keep on keepin' on my friend!

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                              WalterWhiteW WalterWhite wrote on last edited by
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                              My top 5 QB prospects in no order:

                              1. Cardale Jones

                              2. Connor Cook

                              3. Jared Goff

                              4. Gunner Kiel

                              5. Christian Hackenberg

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                              • WalterWhiteW WalterWhite

                                My top 5 QB prospects in no order:

                                1. Cardale Jones

                                2. Connor Cook

                                3. Jared Goff

                                4. Gunner Kiel

                                5. Christian Hackenberg

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                                SuomiS Suomi wrote on last edited by
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                                @walterwhite said:

                                My top 5 QB prospects in no order:

                                1. Cardale Jones

                                2. Connor Cook

                                3. Jared Goff

                                4. Gunner Kiel

                                5. Christian Hackenberg

                                At this point in time, ranking Cardale Jones #1 on this list is a bit premature. If I was GM for the Browns there's no way I'd draft him after only seeing him play three games.

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                                  Worthless comparison, Ag. It's a spread offense. I could find Tech quarterbacks that are better than Johnny then, by that standard.

                                  Also, thanks for all your help in the SEC debate.

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                                  The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                  @wargograw said:

                                  Worthless comparison, Ag. It's a spread offense. I could find Tech quarterbacks that are better than Johnny then, by that standard.

                                  Also, thanks for all your help in the SEC debate.

                                  Right, useless. The most prolific QBs ever were like Timmy Chang and Colt Brennan.....who did diddley in the pros.

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                                  • Opal312O Opal312

                                    Speculation

                                    If we were to pick #1 why not Cardale?

                                    Is Manziel and or McCown worse than:

                                    An aging Carson Palmer

                                    Geno or Bryce Petty

                                    Matt Cassel or EJ Manuel

                                    Sam Bradford after two knee surgeries

                                    Nick Foles

                                    Mariota on a bad team

                                    Winston with a bad Oline and even worse run game

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                                    The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                    @opal312 said:

                                    Speculation

                                    If we were to pick #1 why not Cardale?

                                    Is Manziel and or McCown worse than:

                                    An aging Carson Palmer

                                    Geno or Bryce Petty

                                    Matt Cassel or EJ Manuel

                                    Sam Bradford after two knee surgeries

                                    Nick Foles

                                    Mariota on a bad team

                                    Winston with a bad Oline and even worse run game

                                    Nick Foles is a good QB imo. But I understand what you are saying: While the Browns may not have a good QB situation, there may in fact be teams that are no better or worse.

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                                    • PoeticGP PoeticG

                                      Manziel will be the league MVP this year. Unstoppable, unsolvable and unpredictable lighting up defenses league wide on a march to the Superbowl! Woof!

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                                      The GipperT The Gipper wrote on last edited by
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                                      @poeticg said:

                                      Manziel will be the league MVP this year. Unstoppable, unsolvable and unpredictable lighting up defenses league wide on a march to the Superbowl! Woof!

                                      How was your trip to Guyana......because clearly you have been drinking the Kool-Aid.

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                                        htownbrownH htownbrown wrote on last edited by
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                                        I love how walterfootball based it's analysis on the premise that TB sucked because of McCown exclusively. Yet with the "best" qb in the draft to replace McCown, they have the bucs picking 6th and immediately mentions they need help at Oline. Brilliant stuff.

                                        “It is impossible to get a man to understand something if his livelihood depends on him not understanding.”
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                                          jrb12711J jrb12711 wrote on last edited by
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                                          I'll be interested to see how Conner Cook progresses this year-the guy has all the tools you want and looked pretty good overall but wasn't quite there last year.

                                          I'm hoping that's a moot point though when Manziel tears up this league-right, anyone?...

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