Who is the best in the AFCN

[BaconHound]

Probably going to between Ravens and Stoolers

[StinkHole]

@the-gipper said:

Here I am listing each of the projected starters at each position from all 4 teams in the AFC North.

I am listing them in alphabetical order of Baltimore, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Pittsburgh.

State whom you think is the best at each slot...and perhaps why:

Baltimore...........Cincinnati..........Cleveland..........Pittsburgh

Offense:

LWR: Kamar Aiken...AJGreen...Andrew Hawkins...Antonio Brown

RWR: Steve Smith...Muhammed Sanu...Brian Hartline...Markus Wheaton

LOT: Eugene Moore...Andrew Whitworth...Joe Thomas...Kelvin Beachum

LG: Kelechi Osemele...Clint Boling...Joel Bitonio...Ramon Foster

OC: Jeremy Zuttah...TJ Johnson...Alex Mack...Maurkice Pouncey... Tie

RG: Marshall Yanda...Dan France...John Greco...David DeCastro

RT: Ricky Wagner...Eric Winston...Mitchell Schwartz...Marcus Gilbert

TE: Crockett Gilmore...Tyler Eifert...Gary Barnidge...Heath Miller

QB: Joe Flacco...Andy Dalton...Josh McCown...Ben Roethlisberger

FB: Kyle Juszcyk...Mark Weisman...Malcom Johnson...Will Johnson

RB: Justin Forsett...Jeremy Hill...Isaiah Crowell...Leveon Bell

Defense:

DE: Tim Jernigan...Geno Atkins...Randy Starks...Cam Heyward

NT: Brandon Williams...Domata Peko...Phil Taylor...Steve McClendon

DE: Chris Canty...Michael Johnson...Des. Bryant...Stephon Tuitt

OLB: Terrell Suggs...Carlos Dunlap...Scott Solomon...Arthur Moats

ILB: CJ Mosley...Emanual Lemur...Karlos Dansby...Ryan Shazier

ILB: Daryl Smith...Rey Maualuga...Christian Kirksey...Lawrence Timmons

OLB: Courtney Upshaw...Vontaze Burfict...Paul Kruger...Jarvis Jones

LCB: Ladarius Webb...Dre Kirkpatrick...Joe Haden...William Gay

SS: Will Hill...George Iloka...Donte Whitner...Shamarko Thomas

FS: Kendrick Lewis...Reggie Nelson...Tashaun Gipson...Mike Mitchell

RCB: Jimmy Smith...Leon Hall...Tramon Williams...Allen Cortez

Special Teams:

Punter: Sam Koch...Kevin Huber...Andy Lee...Brad Wing

Kicker: Justin Tucker...Mike Nugent...Travis Coons...Garret Hartley

Punt Returner: Michael Campanaro...Adam Jones...Travis Benjamin...Antonio Brown

Kick Returner: Asa Jackson...Brandon Tate...Marlon Moore...Markus Wheaton

I realize there may be some changes coming in these depth charts....Feel free to point out where you think people will be shuffled around or replaced.

Choose who is tops....or to place in order.

Its crystal clear that the Steelers are the best team in the div...the browns second.

[tiamat63]

@stinkhole said:

Its crystal clear that the Steelers are the best team in the div...the browns second.

You can tell there's some steeler bias when you take RDS over Mosley, don't select Yanda and pick Gilbert as the best RT in the conference. Likewise for Tuitt and his small sample size compared to proven production over the course multiple seasons.

[wargograw]

Yeah I was about to say no Yanda? Get outta here. Best Guard in the league by far. Fortunately Bito was probably in the top 3 by far.

[MLD Woody]

@the-gipper said:

Here I am listing each of the projected starters at each position from all 4 teams in the AFC North.

I am listing them in alphabetical order of Baltimore, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Pittsburgh.

State whom you think is the best at each slot...and perhaps why:

Baltimore...........Cincinnati..........Cleveland..........Pittsburgh

Offense:

LWR: Kamar Aiken...AJGreen...Andrew Hawkins...Antonio Brown

RWR: Steve Smith...Muhammed Sanu...Brian Hartline...Markus Wheaton

LOT: Eugene Moore...Andrew Whitworth...Joe Thomas...Kelvin Beachum

LG: Kelechi Osemele...Clint Boling...Joel Bitonio...Ramon Foster

OC: Jeremy Zuttah...TJ Johnson...Alex Mack...Maurkice Pouncey

RG: Marshall Yanda...Dan France...John Greco...David DeCastro

RT: Ricky Wagner...Eric Winston...Mitchell Schwartz...Marcus Gilbert

TE: Crockett Gilmore...Tyler Eifert...Gary Barnidge...Heath Miller

QB: Joe Flacco...Andy Dalton...Josh McCown...Ben Roethlisberger

FB: Kyle Juszcyk...Mark Weisman...Malcom Johnson...Will Johnson

RB: Justin Forsett...Jeremy Hill...Isaiah Crowell...Leveon Bell

Defense:

DE: Tim Jernigan...Geno Atkins...Randy Starks...Cam Heyward

NT: Brandon Williams...Domata Peko...Phil Taylor...Steve McClendon

DE: Chris Canty...Michael Johnson...Des. Bryant...Stephon Tuitt

OLB: Terrell Suggs...Carlos Dunlap...Scott Solomon...Arthur Moats

ILB: CJ Mosley...Emanual Lemur...Karlos Dansby...Ryan Shazier

ILB: Daryl Smith...Rey Maualuga...Christian Kirksey...Lawrence Timmons

OLB: Courtney Upshaw...Vontaze Burfict...Paul Kruger...Jarvis Jones

LCB: Ladarius Webb...Dre Kirkpatrick...Joe Haden...William Gay

SS: Will Hill...George Iloka...Donte Whitner...Shamarko Thomas

FS: Kendrick Lewis...Reggie Nelson...Tashaun Gipson...Mike Mitchell

RCB: Jimmy Smith...Leon Hall...Tramon Williams...Allen Cortez

Special Teams:

Punter: Sam Koch...Kevin Huber...Andy Lee...Brad Wing

Kicker: Justin Tucker...Mike Nugent...Travis Coons...Garret Hartley

Punt Returner: Michael Campanaro...Adam Jones...Travis Benjamin...Antonio Brown

Kick Returner: Asa Jackson...Brandon Tate...Marlon Moore...Markus Wheaton

I realize there may be some changes coming in these depth charts....Feel free to point out where you think people will be shuffled around or replaced.

Choose who is tops....or to place in order.

[Vagitron]

@tiamat63 said:

You can tell there's some steeler bias when you take RDS over Mosley, don't select Yanda and pick Gilbert as the best RT in the conference. Likewise for Tuitt and his small sample size compared to proven production over the course multiple seasons.

Shazier when the dust settles will be better.

[miktoxic]

@vagitron said:

Shazier when the dust settles will be better.

no.

[Mudfly]

@vagitron said:

Shazier when the dust settles will be better.

......if we're doing that, might as well just pencil Shelton and Cooper in for the next 10 years......

Based upon stats and proven play, Dansby is the best MLB out of that group.....

[tiamat63]

@vagitron said:

Shazier when the dust settles will be better.

As much as I love RDS, there is no evidence to support this other then pure bias.

[Mike H]

@the-gipper said:

Here I am listing each of the projected starters at each position from all 4 teams in the AFC North.

I am listing them in alphabetical order of Baltimore, Cincinnati, Cleveland, Pittsburgh.

State whom you think is the best at each slot...and perhaps why:

Baltimore...........Cincinnati..........Cleveland..........Pittsburgh

Offense:

LWR: Kamar Aiken...AJGreen...Andrew Hawkins...Antonio Brown

RWR: Steve Smith...Muhammed Sanu...Brian Hartline...Markus Wheaton

LOT: Eugene Moore...Andrew Whitworth...Joe Thomas...Kelvin Beachum

LG: Kelechi Osemele...Clint Boling...Joel Bitonio...Ramon Foster

OC: Jeremy Zuttah...TJ Johnson...Alex Mack...Maurkice Pouncey

RG: Marshall Yanda...Dan France...John Greco...David DeCastro

RT: Ricky Wagner...Eric Winston...Mitchell Schwartz...Marcus Gilbert

TE: Crockett Gilmore...Tyler Eifert...Gary Barnidge...Heath Miller

QB: Joe Flacco...Andy Dalton...Josh McCown...Ben Roethlisberger

FB: Kyle Juszcyk...Mark Weisman...Malcom Johnson...Will Johnson

RB: Justin Forsett...Jeremy Hill...Isaiah Crowell...Leveon Bell

Defense:

DE: Tim Jernigan...Geno Atkins...Randy Starks...Cam Heyward

NT: Brandon Williams...Domata Peko...Phil Taylor...Steve McClendon

DE: Chris Canty...Michael Johnson...Des. Bryant...Stephon Tuitt

OLB: Terrell Suggs...Carlos Dunlap...Scott Solomon...Arthur Moats

ILB: CJ Mosley...Emanual Lemur...Karlos Dansby...Ryan Shazier

ILB: Daryl Smith...Rey Maualuga...Christian Kirksey...Lawrence Timmons

OLB: Courtney Upshaw...Vontaze Burfict...Paul Kruger...Jarvis Jones

LCB: Ladarius Webb...Dre Kirkpatrick...Joe Haden...William Gay

SS: Will Hill...George Iloka...Donte Whitner...Shamarko Thomas

FS: Kendrick Lewis...Reggie Nelson...Tashaun Gipson...Mike Mitchell

RCB: Jimmy Smith...Leon Hall...Tramon Williams...Allen Cortez

Special Teams:

Punter: Sam Koch...Kevin Huber...Andy Lee...Brad Wing

Kicker: Justin Tucker...Mike Nugent...Travis Coons...Garret Hartley

Punt Returner: Michael Campanaro...Adam Jones...Travis Benjamin...Antonio Brown

Kick Returner: Asa Jackson...Brandon Tate...Marlon Moore...Markus Wheaton

I realize there may be some changes coming in these depth charts....Feel free to point out where you think people will be shuffled around or replaced.

Choose who is tops....or to place in order.

I like Cincy to win the division again and choke in the playoffs.

[Vagitron]

@mudfly said:

......if we're doing that, might as well just pencil Shelton and Cooper in for the next 10 years......

Based upon stats and proven play, Dansby is the best MLB out of that group.....

I was only comparing shazier to mosely. Follow along.

[Vagitron]

@tiamat63 said:

As much as I love RDS, there is no evidence to support this other then pure bias.

Mosely had a nice season no doubt. Shazier before his injury was a tackling machine and very disruptive. He's already picking up where he left off and he's a better athlete than mosely. I wouldn't be surprised if Shazier leads the NFL in tackles. His speed is unreal he just needs to stay healthy.

[Mudfly]

Dont know if anyone else watched the Eagles slay the Ravens last night......but WOW.....Ravens looked terrible.....

really really bad......

really bad.....

just bad....

baaad...

bad.

.

[Tour2ma]

Recorded it for viewing this week... thanks for the spoiler...

@mike-h said:

I like Cincy to win the division again and choke in the playoffs.

We've got to quit agreeing...

Cinci is shaping up to be the most complete team in the AFCN.

[Mudfly]

@tour2ma said:

Recorded it for viewing this week... thanks for the spoiler...

Happy to help...

[Vagitron]

@tour2ma said:

Recorded it for viewing this week... thanks for the spoiler...

We've got to quit agreeing...

Cinci is shaping up to be the most complete team in the AFCN.

And then you realize Andy Dalton is the qb. Steelers, Bengals, Ravens, Browns. Bank it.

[Mike H]

@vagitron said:

And then you realize Andy Dalton is the qb. Steelers, Bengals, Ravens, Browns. Bank it.

Your defense is really bad, I'm not sure how you can say that. At least we're realistic here, you're still in the clouds.

Bengals, Browns, Steelers, Ravens

Bank it.

You hillbillies should fix your field too, it just claimed Jordy Nelson.

[wargograw]

Steelers, Bengals, Browns, Ravens. All within 3 games of each other. Capiche?

[MLD Woody]

It's like two extremes going back and forth. Either the side that has the Steelers unrealistically good and browns unrealistically bad... Or the classic brown and orange tinted glasses view. Both are usually pretty biased.

[DieHardBrownsFan]

Browns, Bengals, Ravens, Steelers.