@kvoethe said: He can be our shooter like in the movie Hoosiers Or Happy Gilmore.

@texasag1969 said: Old man Mike in his rocking chair. Damned right boy!!!     Mike

@flyingfooldoug said: Ok, so what is it? Pick bad talent intentional? I just don't think they have very good evaluation at all. I haven't seen a glimmer that sez playmaker out all of them. Draft 4, no playmakers. Or am I missing the Paul Warfield's in the current batch of receivers? All I have seen is suckage on a grand scale. You are focused on the WR to the exclusion of all the non-WR picks. There's no doubt our WR picks have not panned out. I'll even supply you some new evidence... evidence even PFF haters will embrace because if supports their WR position. John Kosko‏ @PFF_JohnKosko The #Browns are catching 74.4% of all catchable passes: Last in the NFL. Arizona is 31st at 80.3% and is closer to 14th team than Cleveland I want to point out... again... that besides Coleman, who arguably was developing this year, we basically spent loose change on WRs in 2016... two 4ths and a 5th. Our FO cast a net... they took a shot even though they were not fully set for the Draft. They spent 13 picks on Days 2 and 3 and netted six 2017 starters and a backup... and that's going what appears to be 0 fer 3 on WRs. This FO did not "punt" as our incoming regime did in 2014. In 2017 we arguably went 10 fer 10 in the draft including 4 current starters plus what looks to be a very good Kicker and a solid, rotational DT. and Then there's a DT who may still be rising, a promising, injured CB, a RB some of us want to see a lot more of and a raw, but physically gifted OT. That's 10 for 10. Didn't take a WR, so collectively there had to be a belief that one or more of the 2016 "busts" would develop. I have no doubt that was a collective judgement of FO and staff, and I am not convinced it was the wrong conclusion based upon their talent alone, but rather it was not considered in light of going with a raw, rookie QB... something few, if any, here saw as "the plan".

I say tell Indy they can have Brock for their ball boys or whatever we can get and LET HIM GO.

@nickers said:Is Nacua this years "Scooby Wright"?.. Just because they have cool names doesnt guarantee a spot on the roster Not gonna bitch or say Scooby woulda been great....cause he is limited.....BUT, he should have been retained and was definitely better than some of the 53 we kept.....time will prove that out and he WILL have a career in the NFL, whilst many that we kept ahead of him wont......

It sure was!

@tour2ma said:... and trade for Garoppolo and we can be the Cleveland Patriots... Or...can they now be considered the New England Browns. So many former Browns are associated with them.

Zombo said: Oh I'll be looking for a Cody Kessler jersey by Friday. I am allowed my Monday Mourning. Z maybe you can give it to the field crew to wrap him up and keep him warm while the light fades and he turns blue. "next!"

since we're on the topic of alcohol and football did anyone go to the Buckeye game last week and how did the beer sales go ?

@the-gipper said: Oh, OK, then you do have to root for him, absolutely. He was considered perhaps the best golfer not to win a major. Now who holds that title? Probably Sergio. Rickie at a close second, in my book.

@stinkhole said: It's not sucking their balls, it's telling it like it is without letting his hate for them get in the way. The concept of "respecting talent" is lost on a lot of these people. I hate the Steelers with a passion, but I respect the fact that they've been able to be consistently successful for a majority of this millennium so far. And I also wish we had drafted Roethlisberger, so there's that.

Zombo said: Actually, he assholed himself into 15 Million bucks. Times 5. I am getting a distinct feeling a window closed for the Panthers and we won't see them in the Super Bowl again in the Cam Newton era. Z Well fuck, time for me to move.

@calfoxwc said: might help. these kind of analyses are only as legit as the amount of relevant information put into them. a wr playing vs solid db's, with a weak armed, so-so qb, inadequate oline... won't have as good of stats as a wr playing against so-so dbs with an excellent qb with a solid oline.... natural grass vs artificial turf.... good weather vs bad weather.... seems more of an exercise in futility.... With a sufficiently large dataset you can correct for those factors.

@secondwave said: Of all of the bizarre political twists and turns this country has taken, the strangest one is this: the fetishizing, and elevating, of symbolic gestures, while actual words and actions have become almost irrelevant. You can start a war based on phony intelligence, resulting in millions of deaths and casualties, and you can explain your way out of it (ie. Syria, Palestine, Afghanistan). But God forbid you forget to put your flag pin on in the morning. I just keep thinking of Tom Cruise in Born on the Fourth of July in the wheelchair yelling, "love it or leave it"

Lions release leading tackling LB Stephen Tullock. 107 tackles with 16 starts 2015. He's 31 where Dansby was 34. Dansby had 108 tackles in 2015. Tullock 10 year Vet. at LB. Our Vet LB Kruger . Jim Schwartz DC in Philly says hello..

@tour2ma said:I did not know that... sweet... Me neither Tour, but now Chris has made us dangerous with this new weapon.

@gumby73 said:thanks chris, that proves Heckert could draft & Banner can way over evaluate players worth. hope not in Schwartz case but franchise tag maybe in Sashi's & Depo's analytics tablets.. Can't lose Mack & Mitch.. Get a 3 year deal done on Mitch imo. Um, regarding the franchise tag in The Schwartz's case- no. All offensive linemen get lumped into one class- and franchising Mitchell would put him in Joe Thomas' pay range. The tag was $12 million last year. He'll probably get offered a significant raise, but not that kind of money for a RT.

TCPO, I have no idea what happened to my PMs. Probably still nonexistent as a vestige of my recent ban. I don't know. But do me a favor and email me. Address is my username @yahoo.com.

"make it a triple barkeep."

Not really. It's just that the Browns will draft a qb with their first pick. And either trade JM, or make him third string. As for draft day trade value, I figure they could trade him to entice a small trade up from the third round to the second round. Surely the Browns are done with JM. Never was a fit, never should have been drafted. "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me....." fool me a third, fourth and try it a fifth time, you're toast, you sombeech, boozer loser.