Cardinals release WR DeAndre Hopkins
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So you are going to go back 30 years to talk about tony jones? You are forgetting a lot of guys before and since.
Playing is how guys develop...and some guys don't develop because they aren't all that good..
Heck, in some ways Wills has gone back in his play. So much for the OL coach making him better.
Now for your 2nd points above. Have you ever participated in an Okie Drill or even seen one? You play when you practice and you'd know that if you ever played. On all levels, you prove yourself worthy of starting or situational reps in practice first before you can be trusted in a game. Then you have scrimmages and preseason games.
Are you really blaming the Oline Coach for the lack of passion Wills plays with? Seems to me guys like Pocic, Teller, Bitonio and Conklin (who's played through injuries) all play with enough passion to make coaches, teammates and fans confident in them. @tiamat63 and me looked at some film of Wills a couple months ago. We looked at a 3rd year guy that couldn't even get in a good stance on a consistent basis. ANY Offensive Lineman that wants to succeed gets this down first or he's going to run into a lot of trouble with his base and footwork. This impacts his positioning, balance and if he's vulnerable to over extension. When I played and then later coached at the high school level, we spent a lot of time on stances and starts. Football is all about getting there 1st especially on the OL. Having said that, you also have to do this with an ideal pad height and good base.
We agree experience is important for however long that'll last...
Now for your 2nd points above. Have you ever participated in an Okie Drill or even seen one? You play when you practice and you'd know that if you ever played. On all levels, you prove yourself worthy of starting or situational reps in practice first before you can be trusted in a game. Then you have scrimmages and preseason games.
Are you really blaming the Oline Coach for the lack of passion Wills plays with? Seems to me guys like Pocic, Teller, Bitonio and Conklin (who's played through injuries) all play with enough passion to make coaches, teammates and fans confident in them. @tiamat63 and me looked at some film of Wills a couple months ago. We looked at a 3rd year guy that couldn't even get in a good stance on a consistent basis. ANY Offensive Lineman that wants to succeed gets this down first or he's going to run into a lot of trouble with his base and footwork. This impacts his positioning, balance and if he's vulnerable to over extension. When I played and then later coached at the high school level, we spent a lot of time on stances and starts. Football is all about getting there 1st especially on the OL. Having said that, you also have to do this with an ideal pad height and good base.
We agree experience is important for however long that'll last...
Yes,I have.
You make my point. Those guys don't get to play. Running in an Okie, hamburger, or what ever name you want to use isn't playing. Practice isn't playing. That is why I say the NFL doesn't develop players. They plug and play players.
Some may not play year one...but the benefit of that year is mostly going through the NFL routine. So in that respect it is development.
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Now for your 2nd points above. Have you ever participated in an Okie Drill or even seen one? You play when you practice and you'd know that if you ever played. On all levels, you prove yourself worthy of starting or situational reps in practice first before you can be trusted in a game. Then you have scrimmages and preseason games.
Are you really blaming the Oline Coach for the lack of passion Wills plays with? Seems to me guys like Pocic, Teller, Bitonio and Conklin (who's played through injuries) all play with enough passion to make coaches, teammates and fans confident in them. @tiamat63 and me looked at some film of Wills a couple months ago. We looked at a 3rd year guy that couldn't even get in a good stance on a consistent basis. ANY Offensive Lineman that wants to succeed gets this down first or he's going to run into a lot of trouble with his base and footwork. This impacts his positioning, balance and if he's vulnerable to over extension. When I played and then later coached at the high school level, we spent a lot of time on stances and starts. Football is all about getting there 1st especially on the OL. Having said that, you also have to do this with an ideal pad height and good base.
We agree experience is important for however long that'll last...
Yes,I have.
You make my point. Those guys don't get to play. Running in an Okie, hamburger, or what ever name you want to use isn't playing. Practice isn't playing. That is why I say the NFL doesn't develop players. They plug and play players.
Some may not play year one...but the benefit of that year is mostly going through the NFL routine. So in that respect it is development.
Yes,I have.
You make my point. Those guys don't get to play. Running in an Okie, hamburger, or what ever name you want to use isn't playing. Practice isn't playing. That is why I say the NFL doesn't develop players. They plug and play players.
Some may not play year one...but the benefit of that year is mostly going through the NFL routine. So in that respect it is development.
Okay. Here's a video that sums up our time together in this conversation:
I welcome the only Defensive Coordinator to earn a Superbowl Ring in New Orleans while understanding Revenge of the Nerds is a sequel. "Come get some!" -
haahah you so funny. maybe some day you will come up with something new
And maybe one day you'll find courage and quit drinking... But somehow.. I doubt it
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
Yes,I have.
You make my point. Those guys don't get to play. Running in an Okie, hamburger, or what ever name you want to use isn't playing. Practice isn't playing. That is why I say the NFL doesn't develop players. They plug and play players.
Some may not play year one...but the benefit of that year is mostly going through the NFL routine. So in that respect it is development.
Okay. Here's a video that sums up our time together in this conversation:
Okay. Here's a video that sums up our time together in this conversation:
Apparently "spare time" is quite the thing around here. LOL!?
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Back to the topic at hand.
Outkick posted some odds courtesy of Draftkings Sportsbook?:
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I'm thinking D Hop is looking for a payday, not a contender, or he'd be signed by now.
Karlis Missed -
I'm thinking D Hop is looking for a payday, not a contender, or he'd be signed by now.
And we don't need to be giving some dude in his twilight a payday...
Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~ -
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I'm thinking D Hop is looking for a payday, not a contender, or he'd be signed by now.
I bet he doesn't want to contend with TC.....and waits a while. ( IOW, he's gonna sign with someone tomorrow )
BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE -
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I bet he doesn't want to contend with TC.....and waits a while. ( IOW, he's gonna sign with someone tomorrow )
I can see this... ^^ but,
the sun will rise on a Friday where the Nfl likes to steal the weekend headlines..
The Browns will also wake-up with over 13M in cap space.. I'd still like to fill 2 bigger needs...
a) The Chargers told veteran LB/DE Kyle Van Noy to stop the run as a FA with a new team..
b) Jim Schwartz knows FA DT N. Suh or* Panthers DT FA Matt Ioannidis is age 29
I'm thinking Suh & Van Noy improves 2 bigger needs getting both under 13M.. have at it..here's a FA list
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
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I bet he doesn't want to contend with TC.....and waits a while. ( IOW, he's gonna sign with someone tomorrow )
I can see this... ^^ but,
the sun will rise on a Friday where the Nfl likes to steal the weekend headlines..
The Browns will also wake-up with over 13M in cap space.. I'd still like to fill 2 bigger needs...
a) The Chargers told veteran LB/DE Kyle Van Noy to stop the run as a FA with a new team..
b) Jim Schwartz knows FA DT N. Suh or* Panthers DT FA Matt Ioannidis is age 29
I'm thinking Suh & Van Noy improves 2 bigger needs getting both under 13M.. have at it..here's a FA list
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I was kinda' thinking that we're done with big player signings....but we'll see if the money is burning a hole in someone's pocket.
I've seen projections that the Browns will start over the cap, by over -61 million $ in 2024.. 31st of 32 teams
Deal Andrew Berry ?
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click 2024 FA's https://overthecap.com/free-agency/cleveland-brown
click 2024 team cap https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space
Browns & Buffett: Got to go fishin, Down to rock bottom again, with just a few Friends -
I was kinda' thinking that we're done with big player signings....but we'll see if the money is burning a hole in someone's pocket.
I've seen projections that the Browns will start over the cap, by over -61 million $ in 2024.. 31st of 32 teams
Deal Andrew Berry ?
edit----
click 2024 FA's https://overthecap.com/free-agency/cleveland-brown
click 2024 team cap https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space
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I was kinda' thinking that we're done with big player signings....but we'll see if the money is burning a hole in someone's pocket.
I've seen projections that the Browns will start over the cap, by over -61 million $ in 2024.. 31st of 32 teams
Deal Andrew Berry ?
edit----
click 2024 FA's https://overthecap.com/free-agency/cleveland-brown
click 2024 team cap https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space
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