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  • nickersN nickers

    @syd said:

    you really are mental 

    LOL says the town drunk...

    @nickers said:

    LOL says the town drunk...

    haahah you so funny. maybe some day you will come up with something new 

  • sydS syd

    @nickers said:

    LOL says the town drunk...

    haahah you so funny. maybe some day you will come up with something new 

    @syd said:

    haahah you so funny. maybe some day you will come up with something new 

    And maybe one day you'll find courage and quit drinking... But somehow.. I doubt it

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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  • FlugelF Flugel

    @ballpeen said:

    Yes,I have.

    You make my point.  Those guys don't get to play.  Running in an Okie, hamburger, or what ever name you want to use isn't playing. Practice isn't playing.  That is why I say the NFL doesn't develop players.  They plug and play players.

    Some may not play year one...but the benefit of that year is mostly going through the NFL routine.  So in that respect it is development.

    Okay.  Here's a video that sums up our time together in this conversation:

    @flugel said:

    Okay.  Here's a video that sums up our time together in this conversation:

    Apparently "spare time" is quite the thing around here. LOL!?

    😂

  • Back to the topic at hand.  

    Outkick posted some odds courtesy of Draftkings Sportsbook?:

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  • I'm thinking D Hop is looking for a payday, not a contender, or he'd be signed by now. 

    Karlis Missed
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  • Bob806B Bob806

    I'm thinking D Hop is looking for a payday, not a contender, or he'd be signed by now. 

    @bob806 said:

    I'm thinking D Hop is looking for a payday, not a contender, or he'd be signed by now. 

    And we don't need to be giving some dude in his twilight a payday...

    Nickers...."There are no old running QB's in the NFL "~Sam Rutigliano~
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  • nickersN nickers

    @bob806 said:

    I'm thinking D Hop is looking for a payday, not a contender, or he'd be signed by now. 

    And we don't need to be giving some dude in his twilight a payday...

    @nickers said:

    And we don't need to be giving some dude in his twilight a payday...

    I don't think he's a Dwayne Bowe, but unless DW is lobbying hard for him, I don't see the benefit. Great hands, yes but the salary cap stuff worries me.

    Karlis Missed
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  • Bob806B Bob806

    I'm thinking D Hop is looking for a payday, not a contender, or he'd be signed by now. 

    @bob806 said:

    I'm thinking D Hop is looking for a payday, not a contender, or he'd be signed by now. 

    I bet he doesn't want to contend with TC.....and waits a while.  ( IOW, he's gonna sign with someone tomorrow )  

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  • OrionO Orion

    @bob806 said:

    I'm thinking D Hop is looking for a payday, not a contender, or he'd be signed by now. 

    I bet he doesn't want to contend with TC.....and waits a while.  ( IOW, he's gonna sign with someone tomorrow )  

    @orion said:

    I bet he doesn't want to contend with TC.....and waits a while.  ( IOW, he's gonna sign with someone tomorrow )  

    TC? I'm drawing a blank...

    Karlis Missed
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  • Bob806B Bob806

    @orion said:

    I bet he doesn't want to contend with TC.....and waits a while.  ( IOW, he's gonna sign with someone tomorrow )  

    TC? I'm drawing a blank...

    @bob806 said:

    TC? I'm drawing a blank...

    Training Camp

    BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE
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  • OrionO Orion

    @bob806 said:

    TC? I'm drawing a blank...

    Training Camp

    @orion said:

    Training Camp

    Lol, well that went way over my head. I was trying to think of a player with those initials...

    Karlis Missed
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  • OrionO Orion

    @bob806 said:

    I'm thinking D Hop is looking for a payday, not a contender, or he'd be signed by now. 

    I bet he doesn't want to contend with TC.....and waits a while.  ( IOW, he's gonna sign with someone tomorrow )  

    @orion said:

    I bet he doesn't want to contend with TC.....and waits a while.  ( IOW, he's gonna sign with someone tomorrow )  

    I can see this... ^^ but,

    the sun will rise on a Friday where the Nfl likes to steal the weekend headlines..

    The Browns will also wake-up with over 13M in cap space.. I'd still like to fill 2 bigger needs...

    a) The Chargers told veteran LB/DE Kyle Van Noy to stop the run as a FA with a new team..

    b) Jim Schwartz knows  FA DT N. Suh or* Panthers DT FA Matt Ioannidis is age 29

    I'm thinking Suh & Van Noy improves 2 bigger needs getting both under 13M..  have at it..here's a FA list

    https://overthecap.com/free-agency

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  • nickersN nickers

    @syd said:

    haahah you so funny. maybe some day you will come up with something new 

    And maybe one day you'll find courage and quit drinking... But somehow.. I doubt it

    @nickers said:

    And maybe one day you'll find courage and quit drinking... But somehow.. I doubt it

    😂
  • gumby73G gumby73

    @orion said:

    I bet he doesn't want to contend with TC.....and waits a while.  ( IOW, he's gonna sign with someone tomorrow )  

    I can see this... ^^ but,

    the sun will rise on a Friday where the Nfl likes to steal the weekend headlines..

    The Browns will also wake-up with over 13M in cap space.. I'd still like to fill 2 bigger needs...

    a) The Chargers told veteran LB/DE Kyle Van Noy to stop the run as a FA with a new team..

    b) Jim Schwartz knows  FA DT N. Suh or* Panthers DT FA Matt Ioannidis is age 29

    I'm thinking Suh & Van Noy improves 2 bigger needs getting both under 13M..  have at it..here's a FA list

    https://overthecap.com/free-agency

    @gumby73 said:

    The Browns will also wake-up with over 13M in cap space.

    I was kinda' thinking that we're done with big player signings....but we'll see if the money is burning a hole in someone's pocket.

    BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE
  • OrionO Orion

    @gumby73 said:

    The Browns will also wake-up with over 13M in cap space.

    I was kinda' thinking that we're done with big player signings....but we'll see if the money is burning a hole in someone's pocket.

    @orion said:

    I was kinda' thinking that we're done with big player signings....but we'll see if the money is burning a hole in someone's pocket.

    I've seen projections that the Browns will start over the cap, by over -61 million $ in 2024.. 31st of 32 teams

    Deal Andrew Berry ?

    f8bi39QaEsJBOyVOFB.gif   

    edit---- 

     click 2024 FA's https://overthecap.com/free-agency/cleveland-brown

     click 2024 team cap https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space

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  • gumby73G gumby73

    @orion said:

    I was kinda' thinking that we're done with big player signings....but we'll see if the money is burning a hole in someone's pocket.

    I've seen projections that the Browns will start over the cap, by over -61 million $ in 2024.. 31st of 32 teams

    Deal Andrew Berry ?

    f8bi39QaEsJBOyVOFB.gif   

    edit---- 

     click 2024 FA's https://overthecap.com/free-agency/cleveland-brown

     click 2024 team cap https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space

    @gumby73 said:

    I've seen projections that the Browns will start over the cap, by over -61 million $ in 2024.. 31st of 32 teams

    Deal Andrew Berry ?

    f8bi39QaEsJBOyVOFB.gif                    

    ALL IN ...... baby !

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  • Bob806B Bob806

    @nickers said:

    And we don't need to be giving some dude in his twilight a payday...

    I don't think he's a Dwayne Bowe, but unless DW is lobbying hard for him, I don't see the benefit. Great hands, yes but the salary cap stuff worries me.

    @bob806 said:

    but the salary cap stuff worries me.

    i believe the money would be well spent on defensive line depth

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  • gumby73G gumby73

    @orion said:

    I was kinda' thinking that we're done with big player signings....but we'll see if the money is burning a hole in someone's pocket.

    I've seen projections that the Browns will start over the cap, by over -61 million $ in 2024.. 31st of 32 teams

    Deal Andrew Berry ?

    f8bi39QaEsJBOyVOFB.gif   

    edit---- 

     click 2024 FA's https://overthecap.com/free-agency/cleveland-brown

     click 2024 team cap https://overthecap.com/salary-cap-space

    @gumby73 said:

    I've seen projections that the Browns will start over the cap, by over -61 million $ in 2024.. 31st of 32 teams                    

    Is that bad? ?

  • hmm....might need to get that superbowl victory this year then.

    BEING A BROWNS FAN IS A TEST TO SEE HOW MUCH YOU CAN TAKE
    mjp28M 1 Reply

  • Each of those FA's is a different contract.

    Look at the dead values for ZDS for a post-June 1 cut vs the pre-June 1 cut.

    In short, if ZDS isn't resigned, he'll be listed as a post June1 cut next season.. resulting in a total of 1.8 dead in each of 2024, 2025, 2026, and 2027 because why not.  Big upfront value leading to scare quotes, sprinkles in reality.

    Same analysis for the rest of the list, just different values for each player

    The more labels you have for yourself, the dumber they make you. "When you win, say nothing. When you lose, say less." Paul Brown
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