Skip to content
The Browns Board
Theme
  • System
  • Light
  • Dark
  • Login
  • Register
  • Forums
  • Recent
  • Popular
  • Users
  • Donate
  1. Home
  2. Political Discussion
  3. Religious freedom and abortion

Religious freedom and abortion

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Political Discussion
43 Posts 8 Posters 426 Views
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • Westside Steve W Dedicated Reacting Well Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Conversation Starter Week One Done One Year In One Month Later Very Popular
    • 39k Posts
    • 9k Reputation
    W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
    #15

    One difference is that Walgreens has a national chain and apparently has no problem selling the birth control pill. The pharmacist is merely an employee so I figure if he can't see his way clear to providing that pill time to look for some place that will support him. Same with the woman in Kentucky. The bakers were sole Proprietors. 

    WSS

    www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons
    1 Reply Last reply
    Quote Reply
    • Westside Steve W Dedicated Reacting Well Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Conversation Starter Week One Done One Year In One Month Later Very Popular
      • 39k Posts
      • 9k Reputation
      W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
      #16

      The baker's could have sidestepped the situation, maybe, by saying sure we will make the cake hope you like it, but no we're not putting two homosexuals on top. You'll have to do that when you get home.

      WSS

      www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons
      C 1 Reply Last reply
      Quote Reply
      • W Westside Steve

        The baker's could have sidestepped the situation, maybe, by saying sure we will make the cake hope you like it, but no we're not putting two homosexuals on top. You'll have to do that when you get home.

        WSS

        Clevfan4life C Banned Very Popular
        • 24k Posts
        • 1k Reputation
        C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
        #17

        @westside-steve said:

        The baker's could have sidestepped the situation, maybe, by saying sure we will make the cake hope you like it, but no we're not putting two homosexuals on top. You'll have to do that when you get home.

        WSS

        what exactly did they want ontop of the cake? frankly if they werent being asked to cater the wedding in person just make the cake.

        W 2 Replies Last reply
        Quote Reply
        • W Westside Steve

          Pharmacist refuses to fill medication for miscarriage

          https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/walgreens-pharmacist-refused-give-woman-medication-help-miscarriage-183652430.html

          Shared from my Google feed

          This one is going to be tricky. We've already decided that doctors cannot be forced to perform abortions and even a wink and a nod saying that tax money shouldn't go to abortion providers.

          I can certainly understand religious people thinking that abortion is evil. Even some of our pro-abortion members are a little bit creeped out by it and might even admit that late-term abortions that have nothing to do with the mother's life should be banned.

          The pharmacist here, in my opinion, is trying to get attention. I say let somebody else fill the prescription.

          WSS

          DieHardBrownsFan DieHardBrownsFanD Conversation Starter Dedicated Reacting Well Very Popular Collaborator Posting Machine First Post One Month Later Week One Done One Year In
          • 28k Posts
          • 6k Reputation
          DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
          #18

          @westside-steve said:

          Pharmacist refuses to fill medication for miscarriage

          https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/walgreens-pharmacist-refused-give-woman-medication-help-miscarriage-183652430.html

          Shared from my Google feed

          This one is going to be tricky. We've already decided that doctors cannot be forced to perform abortions and even a wink and a nod saying that tax money shouldn't go to abortion providers.

          I can certainly understand religious people thinking that abortion is evil. Even some of our pro-abortion members are a little bit creeped out by it and might even admit that late-term abortions that have nothing to do with the mother's life should be banned.

          The pharmacist here, in my opinion, is trying to get attention. I say let somebody else fill the prescription.

          WSS

          Bravo.  Bravo I say.

          "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
          1 Reply Last reply
          Quote Reply
          • mjp28M mjp28

            @oldbrownsfan said:

            I think that is the answer to let someone else fill the prescription. 

            Miscarrage? Are you kidding? He should lose his pharmacy licence.

            DieHardBrownsFan DieHardBrownsFanD Conversation Starter Dedicated Reacting Well Very Popular Collaborator Posting Machine First Post One Month Later Week One Done One Year In
            • 28k Posts
            • 6k Reputation
            DieHardBrownsFanD DieHardBrownsFan wrote on last edited by
            #19

            @mjp28 said:

            Miscarrage? Are you kidding? He should lose his pharmacy licence.

            No he shouldn't.  It's there policy that they do not have to fill a prescription.  He does have to arrange for some other store to take care of it, which he did.

            "You planning on having a long relationship with that glass or are you going to drink it? Drink up, man. Maybe we can get another.” - Janis Joplin, 1970.
            1 Reply Last reply
            👍
            Quote Reply
            • C Clevfan4life

              @westside-steve said:

              The baker's could have sidestepped the situation, maybe, by saying sure we will make the cake hope you like it, but no we're not putting two homosexuals on top. You'll have to do that when you get home.

              WSS

              what exactly did they want ontop of the cake? frankly if they werent being asked to cater the wedding in person just make the cake.

              Westside Steve W Dedicated Reacting Well Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Conversation Starter Week One Done One Year In One Month Later Very Popular
              • 39k Posts
              • 9k Reputation
              W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by
              #20

              @clevfan4life said:

              what exactly did they want ontop of the cake? frankly if they werent being asked to cater the wedding in person just make the cake.

              Here's your cake kids. You can put your own to queer guys on top of it. 

              WSS

              www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons
              1 Reply Last reply
              👍
              Quote Reply
              • calfoxwc C Dedicated Very Popular Conversation Starter Collaborator First Post Posting Machine Reacting Well Week One Done One Year In One Month Later
                • 64k Posts
                • 8k Reputation
                C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
                #21

                Meanwhile SCOTUS sided with religious freedom, now orders the lower court to revisit their

                decision against the flower shop.

                https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/06/25/scotus-lower-court-must-rehear-flower-shop-case-in-light-of-recent-gay-wedding-cake-ruling

                1 Reply Last reply
                Quote Reply
                • Clevfan4life C Banned Very Popular
                  • 24k Posts
                  • 1k Reputation
                  C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
                  #22

                  just to be clear in cases like wedding photogs,bakers,florists....these are non essential business's that i could care less if they dont want to serve gays. that being said, dont then bitch if a restsurant with gay employees tell conservative people to kick rocks. 

                  1 Reply Last reply
                  Quote Reply
                  • MLD Woody MLD WoodyM Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular First Post Collaborator Posting Machine Reacting Well One Month Later One Year In Week One Done
                    • 33k Posts
                    • 3k Reputation
                    MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
                    #23

                    This was also medication to enduce an abortion/miscarriage on an already dead fetus. Not really the buzzword action of "killing babies". If that makes any difference in this case.

                    Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
                    C 1 Reply Last reply
                    Quote Reply
                    • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                      This was also medication to enduce an abortion/miscarriage on an already dead fetus. Not really the buzzword action of "killing babies". If that makes any difference in this case.

                      Clevfan4life C Banned Very Popular
                      • 24k Posts
                      • 1k Reputation
                      C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
                      #24

                      @mld-woody said:

                      This was also medication to enduce an abortion/miscarriage on an already dead fetus. Not really the buzzword action of "killing babies". If that makes any difference in this case.

                      a dead fetus is still alive u baby killer. 

                      lols, u know it makes no difference to these people. they'd rather see women die if god so chooses but they get cancer and its off to the doctor for chemo,u know, letting nature take its course?

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      Quote Reply
                      • C Clevfan4life

                        @westside-steve said:

                        The baker's could have sidestepped the situation, maybe, by saying sure we will make the cake hope you like it, but no we're not putting two homosexuals on top. You'll have to do that when you get home.

                        WSS

                        what exactly did they want ontop of the cake? frankly if they werent being asked to cater the wedding in person just make the cake.

                        Westside Steve W Dedicated Reacting Well Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Conversation Starter Week One Done One Year In One Month Later Very Popular
                        • 39k Posts
                        • 9k Reputation
                        W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
                        #25

                        @clevfan4life said:

                        what exactly did they want ontop of the cake? frankly if they werent being asked to cater the wedding in person just make the cake.

                        Again same deal as the klan ordering cookies with swastikas from a kosher bakery. Heres the cookies boys put the swastikas on yourselves. And exactly what the couple wanted was to homesexuals standing on the cake. And speaking rationally the baker could have avoided any situation by merely saying we don't carry that particular novelty. If you want queers on top of the cake you can order them from Amazon and put them on when you get home.

                        WSS

                        www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons
                        Canton DawgC MLD WoodyM 2 Replies Last reply
                        Quote Reply
                        • W Westside Steve

                          @clevfan4life said:

                          what exactly did they want ontop of the cake? frankly if they werent being asked to cater the wedding in person just make the cake.

                          Again same deal as the klan ordering cookies with swastikas from a kosher bakery. Heres the cookies boys put the swastikas on yourselves. And exactly what the couple wanted was to homesexuals standing on the cake. And speaking rationally the baker could have avoided any situation by merely saying we don't carry that particular novelty. If you want queers on top of the cake you can order them from Amazon and put them on when you get home.

                          WSS

                          Canton Dawg Canton DawgC Conversation Starter Dedicated Very Popular Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Reacting Well Week One Done One Month Later One Year In
                          • 12k Posts
                          • 7k Reputation
                          Canton DawgC Canton Dawg wrote on last edited by
                          #26

                          @westside-steve said:

                          Again same deal as the klan ordering cookies with swastikas from a kosher bakery. Heres the cookies boys put the swastikas on yourselves. And exactly what the couple wanted was to homesexuals standing on the cake. And speaking rationally the baker could have avoided any situation by merely saying we don't carry that particular novelty. If you want queers on top of the cake you can order them from Amazon and put them on when you get home.

                          WSS

                          But you and I both know they really didn't want a cake...they wanted attention, and a lawsuit.

                          Two things that will define you: Your determination when you have nothing. Your attitude when you have everything. - Mike McCartney
                          1 Reply Last reply
                          👍 ❤
                          Quote Reply
                          • W Westside Steve

                            @clevfan4life said:

                            what exactly did they want ontop of the cake? frankly if they werent being asked to cater the wedding in person just make the cake.

                            Again same deal as the klan ordering cookies with swastikas from a kosher bakery. Heres the cookies boys put the swastikas on yourselves. And exactly what the couple wanted was to homesexuals standing on the cake. And speaking rationally the baker could have avoided any situation by merely saying we don't carry that particular novelty. If you want queers on top of the cake you can order them from Amazon and put them on when you get home.

                            WSS

                            MLD Woody MLD WoodyM Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular First Post Collaborator Posting Machine Reacting Well One Month Later One Year In Week One Done
                            • 33k Posts
                            • 3k Reputation
                            MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
                            #27

                            @westside-steve said:

                            Again same deal as the klan ordering cookies with swastikas from a kosher bakery. Heres the cookies boys put the swastikas on yourselves. And exactly what the couple wanted was to homesexuals standing on the cake. And speaking rationally the baker could have avoided any situation by merely saying we don't carry that particular novelty. If you want queers on top of the cake you can order them from Amazon and put them on when you get home.

                            WSS

                            Not exactly the same deal. Klan members choose to be in a clan. Gays don't choose to be gay. Same level as gender, race, etc. That's the major distinction

                            Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
                            W 1 Reply Last reply
                            Quote Reply
                            • calfoxwc C Dedicated Very Popular Conversation Starter Collaborator First Post Posting Machine Reacting Well Week One Done One Year In One Month Later
                              • 64k Posts
                              • 8k Reputation
                              C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
                              #28

                              Baloney. Advertizing perverse sexual leanings is a deliberate choice. Most all people I've ever worked with,

                              you assume normality - you don't know about their sexuality in either case.

                              But gays "come out" - that is a choice - which has a lot to do with the culture war against Real America.

                              MLD WoodyM 1 Reply Last reply
                              Quote Reply
                              • C calfoxwc

                                Baloney. Advertizing perverse sexual leanings is a deliberate choice. Most all people I've ever worked with,

                                you assume normality - you don't know about their sexuality in either case.

                                But gays "come out" - that is a choice - which has a lot to do with the culture war against Real America.

                                MLD Woody MLD WoodyM Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular First Post Collaborator Posting Machine Reacting Well One Month Later One Year In Week One Done
                                • 33k Posts
                                • 3k Reputation
                                MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
                                #29

                                @calfoxwc said:

                                Baloney. Advertizing perverse sexual leanings is a deliberate choice. Most all people I've ever worked with,

                                you assume normality - you don't know about their sexuality in either case.

                                But gays "come out" - that is a choice - which has a lot to do with the culture war against Real America.

                                Those damn gay people making the choice to "come out". How dare they. So perverse. Why can't they just not do anything that would indicate they're gay in anyway, and live with that hidden away. Geez

                                Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
                                C 1 Reply Last reply
                                Quote Reply
                                • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                                  @westside-steve said:

                                  Again same deal as the klan ordering cookies with swastikas from a kosher bakery. Heres the cookies boys put the swastikas on yourselves. And exactly what the couple wanted was to homesexuals standing on the cake. And speaking rationally the baker could have avoided any situation by merely saying we don't carry that particular novelty. If you want queers on top of the cake you can order them from Amazon and put them on when you get home.

                                  WSS

                                  Not exactly the same deal. Klan members choose to be in a clan. Gays don't choose to be gay. Same level as gender, race, etc. That's the major distinction

                                  Westside Steve W Dedicated Reacting Well Posting Machine Collaborator First Post Conversation Starter Week One Done One Year In One Month Later Very Popular
                                  • 39k Posts
                                  • 9k Reputation
                                  W Westside Steve wrote on last edited by Westside Steve
                                  #30

                                  @mld-woody said:

                                  Not exactly the same deal. Klan members choose to be in a clan. Gays don't choose to be gay. Same level as gender, race, etc. That's the major distinction

                                  Creed. You forgot that one or sidestepped it.

                                  https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/creed

                                  WSS

                                  www.westsidesteve.com www.myspace.com/westsidestevemusic www.cdbaby.com/artist/westsidestevesimmons
                                  MLD WoodyM 1 Reply Last reply
                                  Quote Reply
                                  • MLD WoodyM MLD Woody

                                    @calfoxwc said:

                                    Baloney. Advertizing perverse sexual leanings is a deliberate choice. Most all people I've ever worked with,

                                    you assume normality - you don't know about their sexuality in either case.

                                    But gays "come out" - that is a choice - which has a lot to do with the culture war against Real America.

                                    Those damn gay people making the choice to "come out". How dare they. So perverse. Why can't they just not do anything that would indicate they're gay in anyway, and live with that hidden away. Geez

                                    calfoxwc C Dedicated Very Popular Conversation Starter Collaborator First Post Posting Machine Reacting Well Week One Done One Year In One Month Later
                                    • 64k Posts
                                    • 8k Reputation
                                    C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
                                    #31

                                    @mld-woody said:

                                    Those damn gay people making the choice to "come out". How dare they. So perverse. Why can't they just not do anything that would indicate they're gay in anyway, and live with that hidden away. Geez

                                    normal people don't shove their sexuality in your beak, woodpecker, hetero or not.

                                    C 1 Reply Last reply
                                    Quote Reply
                                    • C calfoxwc

                                      @mld-woody said:

                                      Those damn gay people making the choice to "come out". How dare they. So perverse. Why can't they just not do anything that would indicate they're gay in anyway, and live with that hidden away. Geez

                                      normal people don't shove their sexuality in your beak, woodpecker, hetero or not.

                                      Clevfan4life C Banned Very Popular
                                      • 24k Posts
                                      • 1k Reputation
                                      C Clevfan4life wrote on last edited by
                                      #32

                                      @calfoxwc said:

                                      normal people don't shove their sexuality in your beak, woodpecker, hetero or not.

                                      i tacitly agree with this however two men or two women holding hands or giving each other a peck in public is not offensive nor shoving their sexuality in ur face. parading down the streets like they do in san fran now thats a diff story, but that only happens in very select places and its not normal behavior for 90% of gay people. 

                                      if i owned a restaurant and two people took the "get a room" challenge, it woyldnt matter to me if they were a straight or gay couple. on this issue tho i can find some common ground with u. i too intensely dislike public displays of affection/sexuality that deliberately go too far. 

                                      MLD WoodyM 1 Reply Last reply
                                      Quote Reply
                                      • calfoxwc C Dedicated Very Popular Conversation Starter Collaborator First Post Posting Machine Reacting Well Week One Done One Year In One Month Later
                                        • 64k Posts
                                        • 8k Reputation
                                        C calfoxwc wrote on last edited by
                                        #33

                                        well, it isn't heteros who are going to a bakery, on purpose of instigating a confrontation, that they KNOW won't want to serve them ...

                                        it's gay "couples".

                                        every time.

                                        1 Reply Last reply
                                        Quote Reply
                                        • W Westside Steve

                                          @mld-woody said:

                                          Not exactly the same deal. Klan members choose to be in a clan. Gays don't choose to be gay. Same level as gender, race, etc. That's the major distinction

                                          Creed. You forgot that one or sidestepped it.

                                          https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/creed

                                          WSS

                                          MLD Woody MLD WoodyM Dedicated Conversation Starter Very Popular First Post Collaborator Posting Machine Reacting Well One Month Later One Year In Week One Done
                                          • 33k Posts
                                          • 3k Reputation
                                          MLD WoodyM MLD Woody wrote on last edited by
                                          #34

                                          @westside-steve said:

                                          Creed. You forgot that one or sidestepped it.

                                          https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/creed

                                          WSS

                                          Oh, then I disagree with that. I'd prefer to keep it to genetics and religion. 

                                          Refusing KKK members, refusing liberals, refusing Steelers fans... Go for it. 

                                          Refusing women, blacks, gays, Christians. No go.

                                          At least that's where I fall

                                          Ja.brill Peppers - Cleveland Brown OldBrownsFan, on 02 Jun 2017 - 5:09PM said: "No you are not the work of the devil but you are deceived by the devil." Who's got it better than us? Nooooobody!
                                          1 Reply Last reply
                                          Quote Reply

                                          Hello! It looks like you're interested in this conversation, but you don't have an account yet.

                                          Getting fed up of having to scroll through the same posts each visit? When you register for an account, you'll always come back to exactly where you were before, and choose to be notified of new replies (either via email, or push notification). You'll also be able to save bookmarks and upvote posts to show your appreciation to other community members.

                                          With your input, this post could be even better 💗

                                          Register Login
                                          Reply
                                          • Reply as topic
                                          Log in to reply
                                          • Oldest to Newest
                                          • Newest to Oldest
                                          • Most Votes


                                          Theme
                                          • System
                                          • Light
                                          • Dark
                                          The Browns Board Terms Privacy

                                          The Browns Board is an independent fan community. It is not affiliated with, endorsed by, or sponsored by the Cleveland Browns, Cleveland Cavaliers, Cleveland Guardians, the NFL, NBA, MLB, or any of their affiliates. Team names, logos, and other marks are the property of their respective owners.

                                          • First post
                                            Last post
                                          0
                                          • Forums
                                          • Recent
                                          • Popular
                                          • Users
                                          • Donate