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  • No dr or pharmacist, baker or priest can be forced to violate their

    religious beliefs.

      Freedom of RELIGION, not freedom of bigotry.

    @calfoxwc said:

    No dr or pharmacist, baker or priest can be forced to violate their

    religious beliefs.

      Freedom of RELIGION, not freedom of bigotry.

    Making an accommodation for religious beliefs can usually be worked out. In this case the pharmacy should just have another pharmacist handle these cases. Simple fix,

  • @calfoxwc said:

    No dr or pharmacist, baker or priest can be forced to violate their

    religious beliefs.

      Freedom of RELIGION, not freedom of bigotry.

    Making an accommodation for religious beliefs can usually be worked out. In this case the pharmacy should just have another pharmacist handle these cases. Simple fix,

    @oldbrownsfan said:

    Making an accommodation for religious beliefs can usually be worked out. In this case the pharmacy should just have another pharmacist handle these cases. Simple fix,

    u mean like kim davis should have allowed one of her deputy magistrates dole out the liscenses? anyway, pharmacies usually dont have multiple pharmacists on duty at the same time. and newsflash dead fetus's could seriously damage women so there is a time factor here. there are places in this country where there is one pharmacist within 50-100 sq miles or more. 

    thos is just one of those professions thays not for religious folk. 

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    Making an accommodation for religious beliefs can usually be worked out. In this case the pharmacy should just have another pharmacist handle these cases. Simple fix,

    u mean like kim davis should have allowed one of her deputy magistrates dole out the liscenses? anyway, pharmacies usually dont have multiple pharmacists on duty at the same time. and newsflash dead fetus's could seriously damage women so there is a time factor here. there are places in this country where there is one pharmacist within 50-100 sq miles or more. 

    thos is just one of those professions thays not for religious folk. 

    @clevfan4life said:

    u mean like kim davis should have allowed one of her deputy magistrates dole out the liscenses? anyway, pharmacies usually dont have multiple pharmacists on duty at the same time. and newsflash dead fetus's could seriously damage women so there is a time factor here. there are places in this country where there is one pharmacist within 50-100 sq miles or more. 

    thos is just one of those professions thays not for religious folk. 

    The problem Kim Davis had was her name was signed to the marriage certificates to gay couples and even if another clerk handled the case her name would still be on it. They took her name off the license and it was a simple fix. Also Kim Davis went to jail for not following the law and when are the leaders of sanctuary cities going to go to jail  for not following the law? 

  • One difference is that Walgreens has a national chain and apparently has no problem selling the birth control pill. The pharmacist is merely an employee so I figure if he can't see his way clear to providing that pill time to look for some place that will support him. Same with the woman in Kentucky. The bakers were sole Proprietors. 

    WSS

  • The baker's could have sidestepped the situation, maybe, by saying sure we will make the cake hope you like it, but no we're not putting two homosexuals on top. You'll have to do that when you get home.

    WSS

  • The baker's could have sidestepped the situation, maybe, by saying sure we will make the cake hope you like it, but no we're not putting two homosexuals on top. You'll have to do that when you get home.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    The baker's could have sidestepped the situation, maybe, by saying sure we will make the cake hope you like it, but no we're not putting two homosexuals on top. You'll have to do that when you get home.

    WSS

    what exactly did they want ontop of the cake? frankly if they werent being asked to cater the wedding in person just make the cake.

  • Pharmacist refuses to fill medication for miscarriage

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/walgreens-pharmacist-refused-give-woman-medication-help-miscarriage-183652430.html

    Shared from my Google feed

    This one is going to be tricky. We've already decided that doctors cannot be forced to perform abortions and even a wink and a nod saying that tax money shouldn't go to abortion providers.

    I can certainly understand religious people thinking that abortion is evil. Even some of our pro-abortion members are a little bit creeped out by it and might even admit that late-term abortions that have nothing to do with the mother's life should be banned.

    The pharmacist here, in my opinion, is trying to get attention. I say let somebody else fill the prescription.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Pharmacist refuses to fill medication for miscarriage

    https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/walgreens-pharmacist-refused-give-woman-medication-help-miscarriage-183652430.html

    Shared from my Google feed

    This one is going to be tricky. We've already decided that doctors cannot be forced to perform abortions and even a wink and a nod saying that tax money shouldn't go to abortion providers.

    I can certainly understand religious people thinking that abortion is evil. Even some of our pro-abortion members are a little bit creeped out by it and might even admit that late-term abortions that have nothing to do with the mother's life should be banned.

    The pharmacist here, in my opinion, is trying to get attention. I say let somebody else fill the prescription.

    WSS

    Bravo.  Bravo I say.

  • @oldbrownsfan said:

    I think that is the answer to let someone else fill the prescription. 

    Miscarrage? Are you kidding? He should lose his pharmacy licence.

    @mjp28 said:

    Miscarrage? Are you kidding? He should lose his pharmacy licence.

    No he shouldn't.  It's there policy that they do not have to fill a prescription.  He does have to arrange for some other store to take care of it, which he did.

  • @westside-steve said:

    The baker's could have sidestepped the situation, maybe, by saying sure we will make the cake hope you like it, but no we're not putting two homosexuals on top. You'll have to do that when you get home.

    WSS

    what exactly did they want ontop of the cake? frankly if they werent being asked to cater the wedding in person just make the cake.

    @clevfan4life said:

    what exactly did they want ontop of the cake? frankly if they werent being asked to cater the wedding in person just make the cake.

    Here's your cake kids. You can put your own to queer guys on top of it. 

    WSS

  • Meanwhile SCOTUS sided with religious freedom, now orders the lower court to revisit their

    decision against the flower shop.

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/2018/06/25/scotus-lower-court-must-rehear-flower-shop-case-in-light-of-recent-gay-wedding-cake-ruling

  • just to be clear in cases like wedding photogs,bakers,florists....these are non essential business's that i could care less if they dont want to serve gays. that being said, dont then bitch if a restsurant with gay employees tell conservative people to kick rocks. 

  • This was also medication to enduce an abortion/miscarriage on an already dead fetus. Not really the buzzword action of "killing babies". If that makes any difference in this case.

  • This was also medication to enduce an abortion/miscarriage on an already dead fetus. Not really the buzzword action of "killing babies". If that makes any difference in this case.

    @mld-woody said:

    This was also medication to enduce an abortion/miscarriage on an already dead fetus. Not really the buzzword action of "killing babies". If that makes any difference in this case.

    a dead fetus is still alive u baby killer. 

    lols, u know it makes no difference to these people. they'd rather see women die if god so chooses but they get cancer and its off to the doctor for chemo,u know, letting nature take its course?

  • @westside-steve said:

    The baker's could have sidestepped the situation, maybe, by saying sure we will make the cake hope you like it, but no we're not putting two homosexuals on top. You'll have to do that when you get home.

    WSS

    what exactly did they want ontop of the cake? frankly if they werent being asked to cater the wedding in person just make the cake.

    @clevfan4life said:

    what exactly did they want ontop of the cake? frankly if they werent being asked to cater the wedding in person just make the cake.

    Again same deal as the klan ordering cookies with swastikas from a kosher bakery. Heres the cookies boys put the swastikas on yourselves. And exactly what the couple wanted was to homesexuals standing on the cake. And speaking rationally the baker could have avoided any situation by merely saying we don't carry that particular novelty. If you want queers on top of the cake you can order them from Amazon and put them on when you get home.

    WSS

  • @clevfan4life said:

    what exactly did they want ontop of the cake? frankly if they werent being asked to cater the wedding in person just make the cake.

    Again same deal as the klan ordering cookies with swastikas from a kosher bakery. Heres the cookies boys put the swastikas on yourselves. And exactly what the couple wanted was to homesexuals standing on the cake. And speaking rationally the baker could have avoided any situation by merely saying we don't carry that particular novelty. If you want queers on top of the cake you can order them from Amazon and put them on when you get home.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Again same deal as the klan ordering cookies with swastikas from a kosher bakery. Heres the cookies boys put the swastikas on yourselves. And exactly what the couple wanted was to homesexuals standing on the cake. And speaking rationally the baker could have avoided any situation by merely saying we don't carry that particular novelty. If you want queers on top of the cake you can order them from Amazon and put them on when you get home.

    WSS

    But you and I both know they really didn't want a cake...they wanted attention, and a lawsuit.

  • @clevfan4life said:

    what exactly did they want ontop of the cake? frankly if they werent being asked to cater the wedding in person just make the cake.

    Again same deal as the klan ordering cookies with swastikas from a kosher bakery. Heres the cookies boys put the swastikas on yourselves. And exactly what the couple wanted was to homesexuals standing on the cake. And speaking rationally the baker could have avoided any situation by merely saying we don't carry that particular novelty. If you want queers on top of the cake you can order them from Amazon and put them on when you get home.

    WSS

    @westside-steve said:

    Again same deal as the klan ordering cookies with swastikas from a kosher bakery. Heres the cookies boys put the swastikas on yourselves. And exactly what the couple wanted was to homesexuals standing on the cake. And speaking rationally the baker could have avoided any situation by merely saying we don't carry that particular novelty. If you want queers on top of the cake you can order them from Amazon and put them on when you get home.

    WSS

    Not exactly the same deal. Klan members choose to be in a clan. Gays don't choose to be gay. Same level as gender, race, etc. That's the major distinction

  • Baloney. Advertizing perverse sexual leanings is a deliberate choice. Most all people I've ever worked with,

    you assume normality - you don't know about their sexuality in either case.

    But gays "come out" - that is a choice - which has a lot to do with the culture war against Real America.

  • Baloney. Advertizing perverse sexual leanings is a deliberate choice. Most all people I've ever worked with,

    you assume normality - you don't know about their sexuality in either case.

    But gays "come out" - that is a choice - which has a lot to do with the culture war against Real America.

    @calfoxwc said:

    Baloney. Advertizing perverse sexual leanings is a deliberate choice. Most all people I've ever worked with,

    you assume normality - you don't know about their sexuality in either case.

    But gays "come out" - that is a choice - which has a lot to do with the culture war against Real America.

    Those damn gay people making the choice to "come out". How dare they. So perverse. Why can't they just not do anything that would indicate they're gay in anyway, and live with that hidden away. Geez

  • @westside-steve said:

    Again same deal as the klan ordering cookies with swastikas from a kosher bakery. Heres the cookies boys put the swastikas on yourselves. And exactly what the couple wanted was to homesexuals standing on the cake. And speaking rationally the baker could have avoided any situation by merely saying we don't carry that particular novelty. If you want queers on top of the cake you can order them from Amazon and put them on when you get home.

    WSS

    Not exactly the same deal. Klan members choose to be in a clan. Gays don't choose to be gay. Same level as gender, race, etc. That's the major distinction

    @mld-woody said:

    Not exactly the same deal. Klan members choose to be in a clan. Gays don't choose to be gay. Same level as gender, race, etc. That's the major distinction

    Creed. You forgot that one or sidestepped it.

    https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/creed

    WSS

  • @calfoxwc said:

    Baloney. Advertizing perverse sexual leanings is a deliberate choice. Most all people I've ever worked with,

    you assume normality - you don't know about their sexuality in either case.

    But gays "come out" - that is a choice - which has a lot to do with the culture war against Real America.

    Those damn gay people making the choice to "come out". How dare they. So perverse. Why can't they just not do anything that would indicate they're gay in anyway, and live with that hidden away. Geez

    @mld-woody said:

    Those damn gay people making the choice to "come out". How dare they. So perverse. Why can't they just not do anything that would indicate they're gay in anyway, and live with that hidden away. Geez

    normal people don't shove their sexuality in your beak, woodpecker, hetero or not.