We train people?... OMG I didn't know!!!

Just saw this snippet on NFL.com NFL Research: Kevin Stefanski joined franchise namesake and Hall of Famer Paul Brown as the only head coaches in Browns history with more than 10 wins in multiple seasons.

@unsympathetic said: Nothing more fun than seeing Vea and the newly drafted Walker drop into zone and.. not be a vulnerability.  Walker of course is ridiculous enough at 280# to be able to shut down slot receivers.  Just like all the DT's at Cleveland.. The frustrating part is that all the FA DI who are capable of shutting down the run & be more than nonexistent against the pass.. were ignored by the FO.  Examples are Akiem Hicks, DJ Jones, Joseph-Day.  Instead we have a collection who are capable of neither rushing the passer nor stopping the run.   Exactly!  A lot of people don't realize this about Vita Vea; but he was a very good RB in high school.  I bring that up because he's pretty quick/fast for a guy his size.  I just looked at a you tube video of him running off tackle and outrunning some decent pursuit angles guys had on him.  

Anthony Schwartz is questionable tomorrow with a knee injury. Total shocker! We all knew this guy would be an injury problem, but Jesus. Hamstring to knee injury in just 1 week! These injuries are getting so old, man. 9

@texasag1969 said: +My point was that Ettiene should not be in that area of the draft anyway. He's not up there with any of the other 3. Well....I am going by how he was rated by whatever service it was that I copied.  (don't remember which one that was).   You could put in whomever you want in that spot....I even said that Henry could have been there....we would not be taking a RB. 

@sevenfeet said: A lot has been said that the Browns haven't had many wins against quality teams. That being said, 8 wins at week 12 is still 8 wins in the NFL. On paper, the running games are a push. But I'll still take Derrick Henry any day of the week. Our O-line is very banged up. We're on our third left tackle. Our center plays hurt. Saffold at guard is great...when he's on the field. Nate Davis is better at the other guard than last year. Kelly is a quality piece at RT but Jack Conklin was better when he played in Nashville (Kelly was his backup). Our D-line has had its problems but continues to improve, even without some splash players that never materialized for us. We still don't have a good edge rush. Jeffrey Simmons is one to look at for in the middle....he's a wrecking ball. Our secondary has had to learn not to get torched after having a better last year and have made some improvement in recent weeks.  Still, our fastest corner hasn't seen the field all year due to an unknown knee injury. Mayfield is good but Tannehill is better. And our receivers are better. Mayfield looked better today. And derrick henry is good but I'll take chubb and hunt myself. Good luck the rest of the way. 

@dutch-oven said: Baker is a competent game manager at this point.  I still see nothing in his play that indicates he will ever progress to being a top-level starting QB.  But for now, he's plenty good enough to help the Browns progress from being a constant 10+ loss team to a competent, solid team. But do I think he's a guy who will take the Browns from solid to legitimate playoff team/Super Bowl contender?  That's where I have some serious doubts.  Honestly, you could have had those kinds of doubts about 30-40% of the QBs that HAVE taken their teams to Super Bowls. If you go down the list of all QBs who have started in the Super Bowl, it is not like they are all HOF caliber.  Names:    Lamonica,  Morrall, Kapp, MOrton, Kilmer, Ferragamo, Jaworski, Anderson, Woodley, Theisman, Plunkett, Eason, McMahon, Simms, Williams, Esiason, Humphries, O'Donnell, McNair, Bledsoe, Dilfer, Johnson, Gannon, Delhomme, Hasselback, Grossman, McNabb.....All SB starters, all HOF eligible, none in.   And then some actives:  Flacco, Kaepernick, Foles, Goff, Garrapolo....not sure those are HOF caliber.  I am not sure that Baker is any less capable than this whole list of names.   You also have to have the rest of the team do its part. 

Happy Gameday Gents!!... via a Cabot read...   Myles Garrett expected back for the Titans game next week   Garrett, who’s tied for the NFL lead with 9.5 sacks, is expected back for the Titans game next week from his two-game absence after testing positive for COVID-19.   Garrett is feeling much better, but must first pass a cardiac screening and then work out for three days under the supervision of the Browns medical staff, with increased intensity each day, before he can participate in a full practice or play in a game. Ideally, he’d get the three days in and then be able to practice at least a few days before heading to Nashville for a game that will have AFC playoff implications.   

@tour2ma said: Bottom line I took away is that while a 5th or 6th for an Alexander or a King would have been justified, for a team that is simply vying for a playoff spot and not a Super Bowl to start shipping out 2nds and 3rds simply doesn't make sense. BTW... I don't agree that either Kwon or Desmond would have been a good deal. As I just wrote in another thread... @tour2ma said: ... I still have to say... in a few months we can go after any rental of interest in the succeeding UFA market; and what season-changing prize have we missed? On the latter point the two most mentioned names have been Kwon Alexander and Desmond King. Alexander, while very good, hasn't been available for more than half a season in 3 years. King is a good, 5'10", slot/nickel CB who had one very good year... two years ago. While he was a FS in college, he has never played FS as a Pro. He appears to lack the speed to do so. So what real need does he fill so well that he makes a difference? https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/pete-priscos-nfl-week-9-picks-patriots-squeak-out-win-over-jets-ravens-hold-off-colts-and-more-predictions/

@jiggins7919 said: Well, sort of. It wasn't very long and I could only save it as a GIF. ? Now that, I believe. 

@the-gipper said: Well....as I said, we really haven't gotten the full story out of Baltimore on this guy.    He seemed like a true team leader and trooper in his years in Seattle.  Now why all of a sudden is he a locker room cancer.    I don't get it. Does anyone know the true story, or have a link that can more or less give it?   It can't just be  a locker room disagreement with one other guy.  Maybe a case of an attitude because he still thinks he is the All Pro Bowl talent He once was when the tape says otherwise. This kind of scenario plays out frequently.   Add to this New coaches typically try to build a locker room.  There are players from the past regime maybe drafted by the past regime thinking about a new possibility of playing somewhere else down the road.  Not just new Xs and Os this year its building chemistry and trust in a new process.  If you are going to compromise and take a chance on someone it better be all world talent that is good for a win or two on their own not a guy on the downside of his career who seemingly thinks he’s Seattle Thomas

@tiamat63 said: You actually listed players at completely different positions then Troy Not only that there are multiple players who aren't eligible for the hall of fame as they haven't been out of the league long enough or are still playing in the freaking league

@furious-styles said: Myles played himself. Sh*# happens

@jiggins7919 said: Btw, OBJ ranks 126th in red zone targets. Just heard that from Jim Donovan.  I'm going to throw up now!  calloway has more targets even after missing the first 4 games

I would think he would be more that a third stringer.

Now my bonus question ? In the endless running tv commercial "We Ready"..Is that Prospect X in his College Jersey?

So am watching the replay now..And really got to give Drew Forbes some props on play injured.(just over 1 min. left in 1st).1) Forbes is nose to nose with Snacks Harrison. 2.Drives Snacks to help from RT. 3) Forbes releases from Snacks, looks straight up field to flatted the LB, that RB cuts off of to gain the first down. 4.Snacks is than the player that then rolls up Forbes leg..God i hope this kid can get back ? that's good stuff he'll get from good coaching.. 

Hey guys, I know we didn't win and it was heart-breaking, but I also know that it was a terrific game and another gutsy fight from our beloved Browns. I also know that not everyone was able to watch it for whatever reason, so I found this link on YouTube and thought some people might enjoy watching the game without commercials. Heck, even if you did get to watch yesterday's game, it's still nice to watch it again without the awful commercial breaks. If you're going to watch, do it quickly because I don't know how long the video will stay up. 

I didn't want him to play last week, so hopefully he's done until training camp.