@tacosman said: wtf are you talking about?  You sure as hell aren't in touch with reality.  Williams'  bullshite is unwelcome and has been a giant failure of late.  The rest of the league laughs at him like the loudmouth idiot he is.  Williams hasn't instilled shite in this defense except a lack of containment and lack of on the field discipline.  There was a small period where an not maintainable turnover differential had us in decent position,, but now thats passed it is clear the defense is terrible and is getting killed schematically as well. Like countless others have told you, I can't help you with your reading comprehension issues.   When healthy, our defense was easily #1 in getting turnovers about 5-6 weeks into things. You alluded to it above but the sad thing is you don't have the first clue as to how or why the dynamics of what we can and can't have changed. And you can pretend all you want there haven't been 4 OT games, which was improvement you want to pretend doesn't exist. That said, coming off 0-16 football last year - could this defense afford to face KC without the following starters (or situational role players ) for significant portions or all game: Ward, Mitchell, Randall, Schobert, Gaines and Kirksey.  Try playing someone in a game of chess where they can use all their attack pieces and you only get to use pawns and 1 attack piece (Garrett).  Let me know how easy it is...  Oh wait, you already did...   Last but not least, Gregg Williams was the DC of 2 Superbowl Teams (NO and TN) so he has a job in the NFL today while you're making Tacos.

@the-gipper said: Tortured logic is what. I will try to interpret: The Browns blew the game vs. the Steelers. Santa gave those Steelers so many gifts at our expense that we lose that game. Had the Browns won, the 49ers would have had #1 overall...and the Browns would have gotten #2....and they would have chosen Garrett. Had they chosen Garrett, then you believe that the Browns would then have take Trubisky with the #2 pick. Have I got that right? And why could you just not say that in English? Alex I'll take ..To avoid the torture quiz with Gipper for a 1000,please (thanks ag.. whew) Gip, Shanny would love nothing better than to stick it to the Browns..It would have been interesting..English? That thar is some of the finest Ohio-lina-ian, one green stub typing,Jet Flyin, Motor-Cykle Riding,Space mountain Drivin Browns Fan Alive---- Whhoo-Wh-hoo!!

And the Browns basically said that if they hadnt traded down, they probably would have drafted Watkins.....who we'd be bitching about anyway..... He's looking like a bust, in comparison to the "once in a decade" talent he was touted to be.....

Simple, the FO drafted 4 WRs. That made Pryor expendable in their anal ytical eyes.

@tim-couch-pulls-out said: Oh, absolutely. If he's there in the second, you have to take your shot. My feeling on Kizer is this - not one thing about Notre Dame helps him out. He doesn't look like he's comfortable with quick bubble screens, yet Kelly runs at least a game. His receivers have dropped many passes that have hit them directly in the hands; they're not exactly world beaters. St. Brown is his only real weapon. Their defense is atrocious and their running game is meh at best. Save for a handful of bonehead plays, Kizer is what's keeping them in games most of the time. I'd rather gamble on a prospect who's performing despite his situation instead of capitalizing on having a better team. Kizer has his flaws, but I see Carr-esque potential in him. That's exactly the same way I feel about Mitch TC. Trubiski has one weapon (Switzer) and his o-line pretty much stinks.

I don't expect an Indians championship at this time but how awesome would that be?

@browns1216 said:Pryor was playing lights out, like he was out to redeem himself from the stupid "taunting" call against the Ravens. MVP for sure last Sunday. He did not need to redeem himself. That was an ignorant call. The NFL essentially confirmed that.

Cleveland Browns Cap Total - $125,742,071 Cleveland Browns Cap Space - $50,944,223 makes you think how much this "analytics plan" is just helping jimmy spending as little money as possible and trying to build a team that way.

@tour2ma said: Spot on... They had two glaring needs: QB and RB, and filled them both.

Between Hue and his assistants, there are 8 superbowl rings in that group. That is more than can be said for the last three staffs combined.

But he's got one last shot in what looks like a short career. Not many QBs make it in the NFL but he does have heart and guts!

@the-gipper said: Interesting......perhaps we should attribute Hobbit Names to our Hobbit WRs: Bilbo Frodo Pippin Merry Samwise Maybe a Dwarf or two thrown in: Gimli, Thorin Who is who?

@gftchris said:I know we wanted to when we had Weeden, Richardson and Little. Sad thing is, if you count drug suspensions, then it might be us...

There's so many times Trump gets a question in an interview or debate or whatever and it's a fastball down the middle of the plate that he could drive home with something he's said in the past or that's written on his website or just a general point.... He always swings and misses, every single time.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/13951029/how-packers-clay-matthews-redefined-all-pro-career-moving-linebacker For months I've been wondering how the Green Bay Packers went from a very mediocre defense that couldn't stop the run to being dominant. Same players basically, so what did they do? I found an article on ESPN that explains how Clay Mathews was asked to play inside line backer and how successful they've been. I'm not one to comprehend all the Xs and Os but like the results. Can the Browns fix their defense using this philosophy? Please explain those that know. Thanks!

@tour2ma said:Just finished grading the first half so the ink isn't even dry on the Raiders' "goalline stand". Some truth in what you say, but there's plenty of blame to go around... and you ain't going to believe what I saw on 3rd down. Even a cynical dick like me thought that the OL was going to be top notch, very disappointed thus far

So maybe that'll satisfy the weekly McCown starter quota?

@wargograw said: Show of hands who thinks Colorado has the goods to be as good a program over the course of an entire coaching tenure as Auburn, LSU, Arkansas, Texas, and LSU? Anyone (besides Gipper)? Kelly's boosters paid (and they still do at Oregon) recruits like crazy. Built a premier stadium, premier facilities, and put them on the map with the Nike partnership. Colorado has a fine stadium.....I mean, any stadium featured in the intro to Mork and Mindy must be a fine place, no? Seriously....I don't think you were listening. Colorado does have that potential...with the right coach. It proved it could be a premier program when McCarthy was running it. And, again, it may be a lifestyle choice. All things being equal....I would rather be in Boulder than in any of those other SEC places you mention. And Kelly has familiarity with the Pac12 and that could be a factor. If you are saying that Kelly would strictly go to a place for the money....and that those other places would probably pay more than Colo. at the outset....then I cannot tell if that is the case. But somehow I don't think so. He is a bachelor....no family to support. He certainly has all the money he needs for himself....and he would have plenty if he went to Colo. It is more of an ego thing with him surely Shirley. It is one of the reasons he went to the NFL. I think he would want the ego boost of elevating a somewhat "down" program that has potential. (of course, in this regard...it could be one of the reasons he could look to Texas. LSU won't be a factor even though you listed it twice....ggghuh. LSU will win the SEC and play in the College Playoff.....just a little prediction. Their coach won't be going anywhere. The TUN job is taken.

Benjamin is a talented kid for sure. He's really earned my respect coming back after the knee injury. I like a guy that comes to work and not complain. What a weapon and a humble guy too. GO BROWNS

Crow is a lock. I just believe Duke holds the keys if we will see Rice or Bradshaw in this backfield. Pass protection and picking up blitz West and M. Johnson can scare the hell out of any QB. West to me is protecting the ball much better and better cuts up field reading blocks with less dancing. Duke could do it all, including pass protect at Miami but now can he do it with the big boys and stay healthy will determine his career.?