@dutch-oven said:

What we should do is reach for a QB at #2 overall, watch him get his brains beat in, develop horrible habits, then move off him in a few years and have to go and get ANOTHER QB.

That would be tits. 

But as long as YOU are entertained. 

Hell yeah. That's what I'm talking about. Tim Couch era again. 

@texasag1969 said:

And Mike Evans caught his $3 mil pass to go over 1000 yds for the season. 11 straight 1000 yd seasons to tie Jerry Rice. Baker looked for him to get him those final yards. Team went bananas.

That really came down to the wire.  Glad Mike got the record.

@orion said:

So, I'm reading that people actually want us to suck for a year or two more.  Because the QB grass will be greener in a year or two.  That's nice.  In the meantime, can you give me the winning lottery numbers?  

What makes anyone think that we will be the only team in contention to draft a QB next year...or the year after?  

4 more moths before we find out what we do.....

It's the Browns.  I'm sure they'll draft a stud LT, shore up the offensive line, get an amazing kicker, and a stud punt/kick returner.  We can still watch putrid football but we'll be able to brag to all our friends about how we have the best O line in the league. 

I'll take Lamar, his 1 playoff win, and several real bad exits over whatever this product we're watching is.

I'm on board with giving up the pick and waiting until we draft again at #1 in 2 years for the perfect QB - Arch Manning.

Here's our picks:

https://www.tankathon.com/nfl/power_rankings

@syd said:

Really ?  that kinda shocks the hell out of me

Same.  Maybe they want Vrabel?  

@tiamat63 said:

Negative

You've earned yourself one Milk Dud, sir.   Go treat Yoself.

Ward had many games where the game was on the line and he produced.  That's not really a stat that is tracked so far as I know.  It would be interesting to see how many of these QBs were able to put together drives when needed.  It's subjective and hard to quantify but I'd be curious if it was analyzed.

@tiamat63 said:

So... initial games and rough charting of Cam Ward done.    Hear me out on this Cam Fans.

Cam Ward - 6'2 (ish) 220lbs.  Elongated slow throwing motion, slow mechanics, inconsistent delivery and questionable footwork.

Mystery QB - 6'1 3/8(ish) 219lbs.  Elongated, slow throwing motion, slow mechanics, inconsistent delivery and questionable footwork.  

 Both have a release that tends to push the ball out with an inconsistent nose trajectory that either has it drive downwards or upwards with too much air, sapping downfield accuracy and velocity.  Both have a style that leads to batted passes at the line with a flat release, the mystery QB slightly more-so.    Both have a similar athletic profile with similar first step take-off speed and aren't great at navigating decaying pocket integrity with intent to distribute off-schedule but to initial read-side structure.  

 Both played in the same conference and put up amazing numbers.

One is viewed as an initial mid-round pick, the other possibly as the #2 overall QB and I'm sure with "whispers" of #1.

Both faced a schedule of defenses that rank in the bottom 1/3 in all of CFB collectively.

Who is the mystery QB?

Wild ass guess - Kyle Mccord?

@syd said:

mayo is not going anywhere, he doesnt work for the browns

Mayo just fired

@mddawg said:

Cam Ward is very good and could become great if the Browns organization was top notch, presently it is too disorganized to nurture talent. Lamarr Jackson wasn't considered a great QB in his draft but look at where he is now with a stable organization and good coaching.

I'd 100% take Cam at #2.  I wouldn't be surprised if the Titans take him #1 though.

@browns149 said:

There are other stupid teams. We are not the only one

But who's stupider than us?

@blitzz2 said:

There's no 1st rd talent (generational imo) at QB. We have 2nd pick overall. What kind of haul could we get for that. Would have to be pretty good.

Agreed. Generation talent means once in a generation.  You rarely have those in the draft.

Feels like old times - everyone excited and talking about our high draft pick.  Who's career are we going to ruin next?

@dutch-oven said:

Tennessee finishes with the #1 pick.

Not sure what the status is for the Titans QB Will Levis. Honestly haven't heard much about him in his two seasons, pretty 'meh' stats. Could the Titans be looking for a new QB? 

I wasn't really following them but I recall Rudolph seeing a some play time through the season.  I doubt they are sold on Levis.

Looks like we're locked in at #2?

Does strength of schedule get re-evaluated again?

Tennessee losing 6-16 right now.   

@dutch-oven said:

Justin Fields was the #11 overall pick four years ago, now can't beat out a QB the Broncos paid a ton of money not to be on their team. 

For sure.  Unless they're a guaranteed #1 lock you should never draft these dopes.  Hopefully the Browns FO has openings soon. I know a few guys here who could fill them.  Would fit right in with the brain trust. ??

@flugel said:

? It looks like a strong possibility.  

Back in college, any time I had a bad day I'd make sure I talked to this 1 guy that lived in the basement at our fraternity house because I knew his day was gonna be far worse.  Never failed Dutch.  I say that to say this - it's nice to know that the Jets and Bears are still around to remind us the outlook can always be worse.  Not that I want Jimmy to keep the franchise down with that type of company.

I've heard Jets player publicly complaining and wanting out.  To this teams credit we're not seeing that.

@dutch-oven said:

The Bears used the #2 pick in 2017 on Mitch Trubisky, the #11 pick on Justin Fields in 2021 and the #1 pick on Caleb Williams in 2024.

Can you imagine if Williams flames out? ?

Fields played well for the Steelers this season.  Caleb Williams looks legit but that offense is horrendous.  OC needed to be fired.

Obviously being a high draft pick QB tends to land you on a shit team - something we know all too well.

Titans losing 13 - 0 but driving down the field.